Ente Supremo

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Regular human being!? Flaws!? How dare you!? You are treading on very thin ice my child!
(I'll have that beer now, please) ;)
I could put something like that to good use...
And people ask why we like u... no need to say anyting else... only that u are paying for that beer! XD

Take care @Ente Supremo nobody knows the true power of @Faerin's mind
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I only know that there is no brain like my brain, I dont lose my time with so insignificant matters... XD Cheers!
 

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Werid, I just tried this and it works fine for me...
Just to make sure, you are aware that you need to give her a bottle of wine, just before the foot rub, right?
Yes, I am. I gave her the wine and then the massage (when hearts was under 20) in my first game and she never asked for a second glass. In my new (second) game I waited until I saw the hint on the phone (hearts 20+) and everything has worked as it should. It may be an issue related to mood, since for my second game I've used the phone cheat to max & lock the mood. Perhaps if your mood is not good enough she doesn't ask for the second glass? If this is how it works it should be in the walkthrough, as there is no mention/warning that the trigger has conditions.
 
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Yes, I am. I gave her the wine and then the massage in my first game and she never asked for a second glass. In my new (second) game I waited until I saw the hint on the phone and everything has worked as it should. It may be an issue related to mood, since for my second game I've used the phone cheat to max & lock the mood. Perhaps if your mood is not good enough she doesn't ask for the second glass? If this is how it works it should be in the walkthrough, as there is no mention/warning that the trigger has conditions.
Hey !! Glad that u could, play the Game normal, great ! enjoy and have fun !
 

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And people ask why we like u... no need to say anyting else... only that u are paying for that beer! XD

Hey U Both I already told you if u ever be in this cordenates ur invited to our Traditional "Asado on the beach of Colonia"
who bring's the Beer i don't care y bring the inocent Cow ! x'Dx'Dx'D



I only know that there is no brain like my brain, I dont lose my time with so insignificant matters... XD Cheers!
Well, Brain less talking and let us take over the World !XDXDXD
 

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Yes, I am. I gave her the wine and then the massage (when hearts was under 20) in my first game and she never asked for a second glass. In my new (second) game I waited until I saw the hint on the phone (hearts 20+) and everything has worked as it should. It may be an issue related to mood, since for my second game I've used the phone cheat to max & lock the mood. Perhaps if your mood is not good enough she doesn't ask for the second glass? If this is how it works it should be in the walkthrough, as there is no mention/warning that the trigger has conditions.
Well that's working as intented, you will only trigger the massage scene if you have 20 hearts and give her the bottle of wine...The only reason she doesn't ask for the 2nd glass is when your hearts are below 20.
You do know that you can give her the bottle of wine on multiple occassions, right? Because I'm not sure from reading your comment if you tried giving her a bottle again, after you reached the 20 love (in that first game).
 

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Well that's working as intended, you will only trigger the massage scene if you have 20 hearts and give her the bottle of wine...The only reason she doesn't ask for the 2nd glass is when your hearts are below 20.
You do know that you can give her the bottle of wine on multiple occasions, right? Because I'm not sure from reading your comment if you tried giving her a bottle again, after you reached the 20 love (in that first game).
In my first game I did give her the bottle of wine again after 20 hearts (I bought 3 bottles). I never got the second glass request. In that first game, once I gave her the bottle when below 20 hearts the game appears to be bugged from then on. Have you tested this yourself? Give her the bottle when her hearts is in the teens, and then give her a second bottle when she's at over 20 hearts? You didn't answer my question as to whether there is a mood threshold for having her ask for the second glass.

BTW, I'd like to say that this is a great game. But without the walkthroughs it's pretty much impossible to progress. And even with the document(s) there are things that a player must know that the walkthroughs do not mention.
 
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Does anyone have a list of achievements?
Ashley still has to send a photo and one of Claire and Amy that are not marked.
Besides, I know there's one more event that happens in Neon, with Veronica, but I do not know what it is or how to do it.
 

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In my first game I did give her the bottle of wine again after 20 hearts (I bought 3 bottles). I never got the second glass request. In that first game, once I gave her the bottle when below 20 hearts the game appears to be bugged from then on. Have you tested this yourself? Give her the bottle when her hearts is in the teens, and then give her a second bottle when she's at over 20 hearts? You didn't answer my question as to whether there is a mood threshold for having her ask for the second glass.
Yep, that's what I did and it works fine for me, so I'm not sure what could have caused this. There are no flags being set when giving her wine before the 20 hearts, so that could not have affected it. There is mood treshhold either, all mood requirements are indicated in front of the actions that have them.

BTW, I'd like to say that this is a great game. But without the walkthroughs it's pretty much impossible to progress. And even with the document(s) there are things that a player must know that the walkthroughs do not mention.
Thanks, but what do you mean by "things a player must know"? I believe that you should be able to find out everything you need to know from playing the game (and looking at hints if need be).
Of course that is assuming that you read the dialogs.
Please let me know what is missing, so I can update the dialogs/hints to include this.

I know there are players that get to 100% without using the walkthrough, but the majority uses the walkthrough, that's why I added the hints system, as I feel you shouldn't need to have a walkthrough to play the game (or any for that matter).

In my opionion, if someone is not able to play it even with the dialogs, hints and location indicators, then this might not be the game for them. Otherwise I might as well just upload the CG or make a webcomic as stated before.

In the end, I guess it comes down to the player's preference (and perhaps skill).
 

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Thanks, but what do you mean by "things a player must know"? I believe that you should be able to find out everything you need to know from playing the game (and looking at hints if need be).
Well, one example is that if you give Claire a massage at 21:00 she goes straight to bed and the game then will not give you the mom/aunt eavesdrop choice at 22:00. You must deliberately NOT give her a massage some night to be able to get this event at 22:00. I don't recall if there is a phone hint telling you to eavesdrop on mom at 22:00, but even if there is one you can't if she zonks out after a massage.
 
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Does anyone have a list of achievements?
Ashley still has to send a photo and one of Claire and Amy that are not marked.
Besides, I know there's one more event that happens in Neon, with Veronica, but I do not know what it is or how to do it.
Is it this picture of Mom Screenshot (30).png which picture of Amy are you missing, what are Veronica's stats so we can see what you need
 

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Do you get lips (or any benefit) if you give Claire wine more than once?
 

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Well, one example is that if you give Claire a massage at 21:00 she goes straight to bed and the game then will not give you the mom/aunt eavesdrop choice at 22:00. You must deliberately NOT give her a massage some night to be able to get this event at 22:00. I don't recall if there is a phone hint telling you to eavesdrop on mom at 22:00, but even if there is one you can't if she zonks out after a massage.
Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
For instance if you watch a romantic movie every night with Ashley, she will never stay with you at night.
And if you never visit the gym in the afternoon you won't meet Veronica.
There are a lot of examples like that, but to me, that's part of the gameplay.
For that specific reason the game stops giving you stat points at a certain point, encouraging you to try new approaches.

Then again, difficulty level vs (fun) gameplay is a very subjective topic.
I try to look at it on a case by case basis, for example the cup of coffee that starts the event for Veronica was very tricky for a lot of players, so I added a dialog to help the player (before the implementation of the hint system).
If I see the same question several times, I adjust the game accordingly.

In the end it's all about finding the balance between effort and reward.
 
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Yes, but if you do the same thing every day, you would never discover all of the events...
For instance if you watch a romantic movie every night with Ashley, she will never stay with you at night.
And if you never visit the gym in the afternoon you won't meet Veronica.
There are a lot of examples like that, but to me, that's part of the gameplay.
For that specific reason the game stops giving you stat points at a certain point, encouraging you to try new approaches.

Then again, difficulty level vs (fun) gameplay is a very subjective topic.
I try to look at it on a case by case basis, for example the cup of coffee that starts the event for Veronica was very tricky for a lot of players, so I added a dialog to help the player (before the implementation of the hint system).
If I see the same question several times, I adjust the game accordingly.

In the end it's all about finding the balance between effort and reward.
Which is tricky when you have a grind. I don't mind grinding, but there always has to be a sense of achievement when you get across the finish line. So far I think you're doing a good job compared to other games with a grind. Like once you get the rhythm it's not bad. I mean I lost my save so I'm preparing for a new one, but I got myself a nice bottle of whisky and some comedies lined up that I'm ready for my playthrough. By the way if anyone knows you don't need to transfer the patch with each version with your save right?
 

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Hi guys, pls help me with the cases of mom and Ashley.

About Ashley, I teach her all courses. Next day, I tried watching horror movie with her again, have a good night kiss with her, then watch porn, then sleep. (all stats is at max). She didn't come. How can I admit to her that I watched porn?

About mom, I complete task 1 and 3 (massage therapy and wake up service). In yoga buddies, I grind my did against her already. 3 more achievements are still missing.
What else should I do guys?
 
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