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Sycho

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The way it is done, I don't think it can do any harm in game saves or break anything, but you are right, I can't be sure unless I check the whole code.
I thought it would be a good idea to share it since I'm really enjoying the game more like this, but I was wrong obviously. So I'm removing it. Sorry, for the inconvenience, I love this game and I didn't want to spoil anything anyhow to anyone...
I may be a developer, but I'm newbie here so forgive me, I didn't meant to disrespect the work this game required.
Wild modding is bad, I get it now.
Next time I'll ask the blessing of the game creators before, I promise!

Cya
We can't stop people from making mods for the games, but we have seen the issues they have caused in the past. Therefore we have a standing policy that anyone who uses an unsupported mod for this game or Faerin's current game, we will refuse to even look at their saves.

When it comes to MotH, OTOH, the girls' stats and flags are tied to the hints, so the slightest change to either one of the two (or even both) changes the hints and causes bugs in the saves.
 
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Cartageno

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The way it is done, I don't think it can do any harm in game saves or break anything, but you are right, I can't be sure unless I check the whole code.
I thought it would be a good idea to share it since I'm really enjoying the game more like this, but I was wrong obviously. So I'm removing it. Sorry, for the inconvenience, I love this game and I didn't want to spoil anything anyhow to anyone...
I may be a developer, but I'm newbie here so forgive me, I didn't meant to disrespect the work this game required.
Wild modding is bad, I get it now.
Next time I'll ask the blessing of the game creators before, I promise!

Cya
As just a reader and non-team member: Don't take it the wrong way, the mod sounds like a decent idea and you seem to at least know that you cannot increase points infinitely. And it certainly is a nice idea to share it.

Why you've met so much resistance here is mostly because in many games on here - this one less so but Faerin's new project is a good example, but also many more like DeLuca and others - people post mods which break the game and those downloading them will blame the creator. Not the creator of the mod but the creator of the game. Often even the mod creator chimes in with lines of, and I kid you not, "sure, my mod introduced impossible values, but you should have safeguarded against that". And players would ask of Faerin (and by extension Sycho and some others working with him) how to fix an issue they don't even have access to in the code.

You certainly don't need the creator's blessing but it is a bit better with a larger project to open a mod thread so people will at least know where to find help. But there's no reason to feel bad at all.
 

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We can't stop people from making mods for the games, but we have seen the issues they have caused in the past. Therefore we have a standing policy that anyone who uses an unsupported mod for this game or Faerin's current game, we will refuse to even look at their saves.

When it comes to MotH, OTOH, the girls' stats and flags are tied to the hints, so the slightest change to either one of the two (or even both) changes the hints and causes bugs in the saves.
As just a reader and non-team member: Don't take it the wrong way, the mod sounds like a decent idea and you seem to at least know that you cannot increase points infinitely. And it certainly is a nice idea to share it.

Why you've met so much resistance here is mostly because in many games on here - this one less so but Faerin's new project is a good example, but also many more like DeLuca and others - people post mods which break the game and those downloading them will blame the creator. Not the creator of the mod but the creator of the game. Often even the mod creator chimes in with lines of, and I kid you not, "sure, my mod introduced impossible values, but you should have safeguarded against that". And players would ask of Faerin (and by extension Sycho and some others working with him) how to fix an issue they don't even have access to in the code.

You certainly don't need the creator's blessing but it is a bit better with a larger project to open a mod thread so people will at least know where to find help. But there's no reason to feel bad at all.
Thank you both for the explanations.
I don't take it the wrong way, far from it, but I can't help feeling bad about it. I feel like shit when I realize that I disrespected someone's work (even when it's unintentional), especially when it's about people/work I respect dearly.
Those discussions made me grow, no hard feelings.
 
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Goddamn it, this looks like a great game and is very popular, but holy fuck I cannot get past the terrifying 3D models. What is it with these some of the designs that look so uncanny, I've seen some decent ones in other games but generally most characters look horrid.
 

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requiring absolutely 100% of game achievements and the needless extra hassle of maxed out jealous and suspicion stats is too much requirement for the special ending. The ending should come with ending the story not collecting these minor fucking pictures in the god damn gallery

I got to the end and wasted 2 hours going through every scene i could think of and still have like 92% on emma and 94% on ashley and 96% on veronica and im just FUCKING TIRED OF THIS FUCKING GRIND. IM FUCKING DONE HERE.

im uninstalling without finishing because im just fuckin irritated at this shit. dev needs to be less fucking controlling in the future. there is no reason for this fuckin excessive requirement. if you wanted to award something for getting 100% across achievements it should be an extra set of cosplay pictures or something, literally anything other than the final ending of the game. this feels so fucking controlling. i dont need your hands on my dick to deserve to see the final fucking ending. what a god damn let down

and INb4 one of you cunts say "download the save data" cuz you can simply GFY

final rating: 3 out of 5
 
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Cartageno

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requiring absolutely 100% of game achievements and the needless extra hassle of maxed out jealous and suspicion stats is too much requirement for the special ending. The ending should come with ending the story not collecting these minor fucking pictures in the god damn gallery

I got to the end and wasted 2 hours going through every scene i could think of and still have like 92% on emma and 94% on ashley and 96% on veronica and im just FUCKING TIRED OF THIS FUCKING GRIND. IM FUCKING DONE HERE.

im uninstalling without finishing because im just fuckin irritated at this shit. dev needs to be less fucking controlling in the future. there is no reason for this fuckin excessive requirement. if you wanted to award something for getting 100% across achievements it should be an extra set of cosplay pictures or something, literally anything other than the final ending of the game. this feels so fucking controlling. i dont need your hands on my dick to deserve to see the final fucking ending. what a god damn let down

and INb4 one of you cunts say "download the save data" cuz you can simply GFY

final rating: 3 out of 5
(a) Did you by any chance learn a new word recently and are now trying to introduce it into your active vocabulary?

(b) There's a gallery cheat on your phone, unlocking all of the images.

(c) Many games have bonus content for those who do a bit more than the minimum. Of course you may not like it in each case, but there's a certain precedent, so no need to react that surprised.

(d) The bonus ending is by no means the "final ending" except for the fact that it'll be the last you'll get. You may want to complete the game, which I understand, but if I had to choose a canon ending, that won't be it. But in the end it's just one more ending.
 

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requiring absolutely 100% of game achievements and the needless extra hassle of maxed out jealous and suspicion stats is too much requirement for the special ending. The ending should come with ending the story not collecting these minor fucking pictures in the god damn gallery

I got to the end and wasted 2 hours going through every scene i could think of and still have like 92% on emma and 94% on ashley and 96% on veronica and im just FUCKING TIRED OF THIS FUCKING GRIND. IM FUCKING DONE HERE.

im uninstalling without finishing because im just fuckin irritated at this shit. dev needs to be less fucking controlling in the future. there is no reason for this fuckin excessive requirement. if you wanted to award something for getting 100% across achievements it should be an extra set of cosplay pictures or something, literally anything other than the final ending of the game. this feels so fucking controlling. i dont need your hands on my dick to deserve to see the final fucking ending. what a god damn let down

and INb4 one of you cunts say "download the save data" cuz you can simply GFY

final rating: 3 out of 5
After reading this and all your other posts to other members here that could have helped you out this is exactly how I see you

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Since people are so obsessed with my opinion here, Ill try to expand on it for you.

I think where we diverge is on a fundamental difference of the perspectives of what constitutes "extra" / "bonus" content compared to expected "Main content".

In this game you can get to your first ending with about 35% of the game completed.

at that point the game says (paraphrasing) "If you click this continue button you can get a harem ending when all the possible story lines are completed"

1) at that point, even though the games words label this as "special ending", the very act of clicking the continue button is affirmation of the desire to complete a harem ending. This makes the expectation "there will be a harem ending at the end of the story" since that is what the game is literally saying to you.

-->> it is my opinion that this position in relation to the further 70% or more of the content that constitutes the rest of the games story (being multiple other women), absolutely Disqualifies this ending as "Bonus content" or "extra content". The only actual harem ending is fundamentally part of the main story when the main story tells you to expect it coming when you are only 35% of the way through the game.

2) the collection of pictures and the "100%-ing" of an achievements list are fundamentally BONUS content in any reasonable industry definition of it.

Therefore, it is my opinion, that the progress towards the completion of the expected Main content ending (NOT bonus content as established by argument 1), NECESSARILY should NOT require the "100%-ing" of BONUS CONTENT (since it would directly negate its own definition, as per argument 2).

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Is the incest patch working with the Mac version of the game? Couldn't manage to find the mapping.xml file to replace in it. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.
 

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Is the incest patch working with the Mac version of the game? Couldn't manage to find the mapping.xml file to replace in it. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.
I odn't play the Mac version, but I see no reason why it should behave differently. Did you try to put the file in the main directory?
 
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I odn't play the Mac version, but I see no reason why it should behave differently. Did you try to put the file in the main directory?
Well, that's the tricky part : you have to open the package of the game to see the contents in it. When you do that, you have this :
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So, I went to the Contents directory and you find this :

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The mapping.xml here is the patch. As you can see, file structure is quite different from windows version where the mapping.xml would have already been found. I searched in every directory/sub-directory and there's no such file there, so wondering if this patch is windows only or not.
 
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