bolondro2

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The option to enslave mercs is coming eventually as well. Not sure exactly when.
why would you want that though? are you that cheap? lol.
While I will never enslave Aiko, Enya or Loren (for me, they are companions, not fuck toys, and I like them with
pride and will) there are a big advantage in making slaves of them. And not, it´s not saving her meagre pay. It´s to put them under the wing of a slave master that rise passively her physical stats
 

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While I will never enslave Aiko, Enya or Loren (for me, they are companions, not fuck toys, and I like them with
pride and will) there are a big advantage in making slaves of them. And not, it´s not saving her meagre pay. It´s to put them under the wing of a slave master that rise passively her physical stats
My understanding is that the high tier mercs like Ayden/etc will be difficult if not impossible to enslave anyway and they make up the majority of the salaries I'm paying. I have 78 people in my house right now including I believe every Merc except the new female paragon. My total salary cost is $2206, and out of 78 people my 5 most expensive mercs make up almost all of that cost ($1795), and Ayden makes up almost a quarter all by himself. So saving $20ish turning Loren into a slave really doesn't move the needle anyway.

The more interesting aspect to me would be if there are different bonuses or penalties for slaves vs servants vs mercs/etc. Other than setting certain people like Caitlyn free as part of their quest progression I haven't bothered to try to convert anyone to a status other than what they start as.

I suspect I might be more likely to promote a story slave to freedom than enslave a merc, especially if it changed whatever bonuses apply to them in a positive way. You do gain the ability to assign someone you enslave to a slave master for training though which can be a good way to boost skills.
 
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So, only one librey Bonus, they don´t stack?
Why would they stack? If you have multiple libraries you can only purchase the same collections for each of them, meaning with multiple libraries you will only have (in the
best case) multiple copies of the same books. In which situations do multiple copies of the same books give an additional bonus? Would you learn something new from a second copy of the same edition¹ of the Encyclopedia Galactica, which you would not be able to learn from reading the first copy of the same edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica?

Clearly in a university library (and other public libraries) it often makes sense to have multiple copies of a book, as in that case multiple students (or customers) can read the same book at the same time, but they are not able to get additional information from a second, third or xth copy of a book (which they would not be able to get from the first copy) - books on the same topic (with a different focus and different ways of explaining things) are entirely different thing (ie. depending on the recipient or reader one form of presenting information might mean that he/she learns more than from another form of presenting more or less the same information).

It is already interesting that just adding bookshelves (with copies of presumely the same books) do give an additional bonus.

The only thing that does not make so much sense is, that not the highest boni is taken, but the bonus from the library with the highest room number (for the stat gain of npcs during the midnight calculations).

Stacking of boni (from libraries/collections) would only make sense, if there were more collections to purchase and not all of the collections would fit in the same room (ie. you can only fit n collections into a library room, but there are k different collections, with k>n) and you would not be able to purchase the same collection a second time (at least as long as you still have the collection in another library room).

And if you do not believe me, just look at the html code in the passage "Rooms" (search in the html file for the string 'name="Rooms"' without the single quotation character ' and then search further for the string 'LIBRARY EFFECTS' again without the single quotation marks - or just search for 'LIBRARY EFFECTS' still without the single quotation marks) and read the code yourself.

¹) Of course from a later edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica you might be able to learn something new, ie. about the marketing department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
 

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My understanding is that the high tier mercs like Ayden/etc will be difficult if not impossible to enslave anyway and they make up the majority of the salaries I'm paying. I have 78 people in my house right now including I believe every Merc except the new female paragon. My total salary cost is $2206, and out of 78 people my 5 most expensive mercs make up almost all of that cost ($1795), and Ayden makes up almost a quarter all by himself. So saving $20ish turning Loren into a slave really doesn't move the needle anyway.

The more interesting aspect to me would be if there are different bonuses or penalties for slaves vs servants vs mercs/etc. Other than setting certain people like Caitlyn free as part of their quest progression I haven't bothered to try to convert anyone to a status other than what they start as.

I suspect I might be more likely to promote a story slave to freedom than enslave a merc, especially if it changed whatever bonuses apply to them in a positive way. You do gain the ability to assign someone you enslave to a slave master for training though which can be a good way to boost skills.
This raises a question. Paragons will supposedly fight you if you try to strip or brute force them. Can you capture them if they decide to fight you? They would then be classified as convicts, presumably. Unless their ID is changed during the capture/running them through the male slave engine.
 

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This raises a question. Paragons will supposedly fight you if you try to strip or brute force them. Can you capture them if they decide to fight you? They would then be classified as convicts, presumably. Unless their ID is changed during the capture/running them through the male slave engine.
Yeah I don't know what his plans are for paragons. Personally, I would either make paragons impossible to enslave or I would impose a huge penalty after doing so. For instance you enslave Ayden he loses all of his positive traits including ammo pack and overcharge and either has no traits at all or maybe something like Jaded. So not worth it even if possible. Or maybe you try to enslave Felix he fights you to the death. So he's gone. Or maybe any paragon you enslave escapes and is permanently gone the moment you remove them as a follower.
 
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Seriously guys..? No one..? Twelve hours later? Still no one..?
I ain't know someone named "Turner", but if you mean "Tuner Jackson", well then either
unset the variable $tuner or set the variable $tuner to 1, that should give you the bounty mission again (which might just be enough). Maybe someone will tell you, how to do it via console, but then again, with a little searching of this thread, you should be able to find out, how to unset the variable (instead of some other variables).
 

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Is the .45 revolver impossible to be looted from Valkyria? Or the chance was just very slim? I've been save scumming that fight but it never dropped lol.
 
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I ain't know someone named "Turner", but if you mean "Tuner Jackson", well then either
unset the variable $tuner or set the variable $tuner to 1, that should give you the bounty mission again (which might just be enough). Maybe someone will tell you, how to do it via console, but then again, with a little searching of this thread, you should be able to find out, how to unset the variable (instead of some other variables).
Correct! Either unsetting $tuner or setting $tuner to 1 will reactivate his bounty at town hall.
 

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Hey, GD!

Since you're here right now, I just thought I'd ask if there's any chance of the Gardener job becoming a job you can give more than one person? I feel like it's a bit mean to have Mai-Lynn as the only one working the fields all day.

Also, really like the new ability to own and manage properties beyond the home. Hope you'll expand that.

Also, I'm not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this, but I seem to have issues with babies... vanishing? I get an announcement that a boy or girl has been born, don't get to name them, and then they just are gone. Kinda weird.
 

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Hey, GD!

Since you're here right now, I just thought I'd ask if there's any chance of the Gardener job becoming a job you can give more than one person? I feel like it's a bit mean to have Mai-Lynn as the only one working the fields all day.

Also, really like the new ability to own and manage properties beyond the home. Hope you'll expand that.

Also, I'm not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this, but I seem to have issues with babies... vanishing? I get an announcement that a boy or girl has been born, don't get to name them, and then they just are gone. Kinda weird.
1 - Gardeners might get an overhaul later, or a "sub title", just like how pantry girls/maids are to the new head chef/head maid titles.

2 - Yeah. We're definitely getting more slots in other districts.

3 - If you already have 18+ kids in the Nursery, the newborn is given away to Redhaven Orphanage (lore answer). Engine load limitation (Grim's answer). If not, and if you're able to repeat it somehow, please post that save parked just before hitting Conclude Day.
 

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My understanding is that the high tier mercs like Ayden/etc will be difficult if not impossible to enslave anyway and they make up the majority of the salaries I'm paying. I have 78 people in my house right now including I believe every Merc except the new female paragon. My total salary cost is $2206, and out of 78 people my 5 most expensive mercs make up almost all of that cost ($1795), and Ayden makes up almost a quarter all by himself. So saving $20ish turning Loren into a slave really doesn't move the needle anyway.

The more interesting aspect to me would be if there are different bonuses or penalties for slaves vs servants vs mercs/etc. Other than setting certain people like Caitlyn free as part of their quest progression I haven't bothered to try to convert anyone to a status other than what they start as.

I suspect I might be more likely to promote a story slave to freedom than enslave a merc, especially if it changed whatever bonuses apply to them in a positive way. You do gain the ability to assign someone you enslave to a slave master for training though which can be a good way to boost skills.
Paragon is the "hero" right? was unaware there was a female. Is she the ex gladiator?
 

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Paragon is the "hero" right? was unaware there was a female. Is she the ex gladiator?
No. Its two new upcoming female NPCs slated for public release later this month. Oh, and it seems Aria can be a paragon in that upcoming new version the moment you free her from slavery.
 
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khumak

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No. Its two new upcoming female NPCs slated for public release later this month. Oh, and it seems Aria can be a paragon in that upcoming new version the moment you free her from slavery.
Nice. Definitely looking forward to finally seeing Aria's story play out.
 
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Woah. Check out the new girl's entry on the wiki. Upcoming NPC. She really said "I want everything". Not sure if some of these traits are guaranteed though since other NPCs do not have this long of a guaranteed traits list.

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khumak

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Woah. Check out the new girl's entry on the wiki. Upcoming NPC. She really said "I want everything". Not sure if some of these traits are guaranteed though since other NPCs do not have this long of a guaranteed traits list.

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Well I would hope so. Initially she's even more expensive than Ayden.

Price: $500 ($550/day, lowers down to $350/day if the player completes her quest)

There's so much to do that requires a lot of money early in the game that I'm actually considering going for an extended period of time with only slaves and low salary mercs until I get my economy rolling. Unfortunately that would mean passing up on this lovely for several months, but there are enough slaves with good melee skills now that I think I could get through anything short of a tier 7 bounty now without any expensive mercs. So I wouldn't have to start paying high salaries until around day 150. Plus since I'm playing Ironman, if I'm doing the hard fights with random slaves it doesn't matter if some of them actually die occasionally. I can start using uniques for the big fights when I can properly protect them with health implants and hulk armor. But that shit is EXPENSIVE, especially with Dying World and Grimdark active.
 
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raaewe

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warehouse manufacture is overpowered
i get 8000 points daily - buying discounted mats and selling rifles in hamah bay transfer to 45 880 profit
prostitution ring would need like 200 workers to match that profit
 
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DrLizardman

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warehouse manufacture is overpowered
i get 8000 points daily - buying discounted mats and selling rifles in hamah bay transfer to 45 880 profit
prostitution ring would need like 200 workers to match that profit
isnt that the point? it takes a ton of investment to do that. (and the only way I have found to get a decent profit)
 
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Clemency

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isnt that the point? it takes a ton of investment to do that. (and the only way I have found to get a decent profit)
I am actually thinking of high class escorts for the people who prefer the prostitution playstyle. Have a girl who only entertains one client per day in a safe environment (your Tavern) and her client fee scales off of her prostscore, beauty, charisma, dex, performance, dancing, acrobatics, her xp in vaginal, anal, and oral. She has to have high prostcore first to even qualify for the job though.
 
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