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Itch.io devlog has the . TLDR: November 27.

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Completely unrelated, but I just noticed the first review said "The current content feels very short". Well no shit. Its a demo that the dev released on a different part of this site to try and keep it off the front page. Ironic that F95 pirated a free demo of game that was already available on F95. At least wait until chapter 1 is out before dropping content length complaints. :rolleyes:
The dev made this thread though? Are you accusing them of pirating themselves? :ROFLMAO:
If you want to call a positive review a complaint then go ahead but I was hoping it would actually encourage the dev to see that people actually cared enough about their game to write a review.
 
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The dev made this thread though? Are you accusing them of pirating themselves? :ROFLMAO:
If you want to call a positive review a complaint then go ahead but I was hoping it would actually encourage the dev to see that people actually cared enough about their game to write a review.
The way it works on F95 is a dev can be assigned the thread after it is posted by someone else (uploaders).

Here are quotes from the dev about the process and the problems it caused (I colored relevant text):

Oh wow... I created the Dev Thread in the hopes this project would stay off the main page until I was ready because, for one, this is only a demo with a limited amount of content and does not include 2 MILF love interests (1 of which is already pregnant). And two, I'm aware that F95 users have a very uh... particular way of looking at things. I intended to make promotional material that would answer questions like the ones I've seen so far in this thread. I didn't pick these particular screenshots, and I know that is causing some additional confusion.

I'll take over the thread and try to fix it up so things are more clear. I do a lot of boundary crossing with tags and I can already see the potential NTR vs Harem wars brewing. All I can ask is please don't turn my game's thread into a proxy war for that ongoing conflict. I'm trying to give an idea of the content within, but there are no tags that fit exactly what I'm going for, so I tried to get as close as possible.
Thread ownership hasn't been changed over quite yet, but here is something I threw together to clear up some confusion:

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Hopefully, that makes it clear that the women in this game can be either all female or all futanari, the futanari have both sets of genitals, and that the choice between them is all or nothing. I'll add this image to the OP whenever I am given access.

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I'm going to have to make notes on which tags are current and which ones are coming. For example, Big Tits and Big Ass, the MILF characters are coming, but they're not here yet. Also, the School Setting tag isn't correct, while this visual novel's main cast is young, there aren't going to be any scenes in a school. I'm basically going to have to overhaul the entire OP... which is what I had planned on doing.

Man, I really wish the uploader talked to me first. I could have written up everything beforehand had I known this project was going to be on the front page. Sorry for the confusion everyone, I wanted to wait until chapter 1 was completed because I know F95 users are rather picky about content length, tags, etc.
That last sentence is the issue in a nutshell. The dev knew the demo was short and wasn't ready for prime time, especially without any supporting stuff like a correctly sized banner, explanation of tags (or simply correct tags), and that pic in the quote explaining how the game handled futanari. I don't imagine reading complaints about the very thing the dev tried to avoid makes him feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

A review at this point being positive or negative is irrelevant. Anyone reviewing this game now is essentially commenting on a trailer for a upcoming tv show.

Before anyone tries to jump on the "reviews provide feedback" angle, don't. Because I'll bet a conversation with the dev would go like this (again, colors for clarity):

"The current content feels very short, especially since most of it is currently a prologue."

"Yes, prologues are short... because they are prologues. I didn't intend for this demo to be on the front page."

"Despite the prologue, there doesn't seem to be any plot threads set up so far other than "here is a group of friends and they all feel horny for each other"."

"I haven't gotten to the character motivations yet... because this is a prologue. I didn't intend for this demo to be on the front page."

You see now how what you said might not be taken the way you meant it given the context surrounding this game's unexpected premature launch? While F95 is very popular and many devs take over their game's thread, some devs also feel they are forced to have a presence here because of the incredible irony that a lot of people support the games they find on this site. Don't be fooled by the lack of ads and decent layout, F95 is still a pirate site that can quite easily screw over a dev, which is exactly what happened here as evidenced by the first few pages of this very thread.
 

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Wanted to throw in some of my thoughts. Despite this being a game I'll probably not check up on again, there were some good things to it I wanted to leave an appreciating comment for.

The quality is high, especially compared to many other demos on this site. Of course it bears a graphical similarity to other products here but it trumps many when it comes to the overall expression of the game, mainly that the interface is more expanded than the standard you come across and the sound design is very well thought-out.
I also appreciate having options, although I personally think naming too many characters can become disruptive. I wouldn't mind if the option to name characters were narrowed down to just point-of-view characters. Having the option for no futa is of course nice too, I imagine it takes some time to essentially double the scene count.

Reason why the game isn't for me is because I felt like the relationships were missing the mark for me. I'll leave the specifics in a spoiler.
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Despite my personal reservations for the game it's still a pretty product with a promising start, worth checking out if you like the tags.
 

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Guys for the story and the various tags that will be implemented this game will be in my opinion. one of the best I'm craving for more updates.
 
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I also appreciate having options, although I personally think naming too many characters can become disruptive. I wouldn't mind if the option to name characters were narrowed down to just point-of-view characters.
I included naming characters specifically because of instances where I played a game and one of the love interests had the name and some similarities to someone I knew IRL. Nothing kills the mood faster than being reminded of someone you dislike and/or would never want to think of in a sexual context ever. It's a relatively easy thing to do in Ren'Py so I included it for those who wished to use that option. However, the naming was causing a bit of confusion in the demo and I have since moved some stuff around. For example, the next version won't ask about last names until you meet who the MCs live with so that players better understand the relations between the characters without having to guess.
Reason why the game isn't for me is because I felt like the relationships were missing the mark for me. I'll leave the specifics in a spoiler.
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Despite my personal reservations for the game it's still a pretty product with a promising start, worth checking out if you like the tags.
Thanks for giving it a try. I know not everyone is going to prefer what I create, but it is still nice to read that someone can appreciate the qualities regardless if they are interested in continue playing it.

Guys for the story and the various tags that will be implemented this game will be in my opinion. one of the best I'm craving for more updates.
Aww, thank you. As I mentioned in a , chapter one is going to be split into 2 parts. Not something I wanted to do, but real life is what it is. If you are looking for the sexy stuff then I recommend waiting until the complete chapter is out. The first part is focused on establishing the characters some more. As for what's in the second part... check the upcoming blue tags in the Dev Notes.
 

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Full Article:

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First of all, I want to thank all my supporters, including the former ones. Your support has enabled me to acquire an RTX 3060, which I will be using to render my visual novels in 4k. This new capability is all due to your contributions. I have updated the tiers to include a 4k version for Tier 18 and the rest of the tiers will have access to 1080p as before. In addition, as a tier benefit, Tier 18 gets an key to the 4k version, and Tier 3 gets a key to the 1080p version (this tier benefit replaces the comic benefit). Having one of these keys means you gain permanent day 1 access to new releases regardless of your current supporter tier or status. However, there is a way for those not in those tiers to get a key as well.

I am going to be giving away keys for Ménage à Moi to former and active supporters of any tier that have met certain criteria. To be eligible, you need to have paid a lifetime total of $15 to get a key to the 4k version. Or if you paid a lifetime total of $10, you'll receive a key for the 1080p version. This offer ends on January 1st, 2023.

I'll make a follow-up post about the redeeming process after the release of chapter one of Ménage à Moi.

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The next bit of news is I'm going to have to use the contingency plan I laid out in and aim for the complete chapter 1 of Ménage à Moi to be out by New Year's Eve. While I now have an RTX 3060 ( ), I've had major delays due to real-life stuff. My family member is finally out of the hospital after being in there for over 3 weeks. But they aren't in good enough condition to return home yet and are still undergoing physical therapy in a rehab facility. Also, I got a new job that required a lot of prep work before I even started. Both ongoing events have drained my available time away from my projects for the past several weeks.

A major reason I wanted to give out keys is that I know I'm still far from consistent regarding a release schedule. While the circumstances like these delays are out of my hands, I still don't want supporters to feel forced that they have to continue paying or lose out. I reckon that as long as anyone has paid the same amount as if they had bought my game in any other online store, why shouldn't they own a copy?

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This release is the 1080p edition. The 4k edition will be available at a later date (TBD).

A partial image of one the first few 4k renders:

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Enjoy!
 
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Just bought it on Itch. Part one is quite short and not much longer than the demo, but I still wanted to drop a few bucks to show apreciation for you sharing your work now and also for fantasy dating.

Your art quality still impress me after looking at some other VN. Their's seams to mostly use assets as is, while yours seams to have a lot of personalisation.

I honestly have some conserns about some aspects, but it is something I am sure you have already discussed with others close to you and weigted the pros and cons of. So I'm just gona not even bring it up and trust you about it.
 
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Just bought it on Itch. Part one is quite short and not much longer than the demo, but I still wanted to drop a few bucks to show apreciation for you sharing your work now and also for fantasy dating.
Thanks for buying it! TBH, I'm liking the buying a copy model over the monthly subscription model more and more because it doesn't tie me down to cramming in a release before the end of the month.

Both myself and the assistant writer have been swamped with real-life stuff the past month, so I released what I had because I already set a release date for supporters. Had things been going the way they were back when I announced the release date, chapter 1 probably would be done by now. I converted the funds I received in the past few months into a new RTX 3060 and I'm going to put it to work to try to complete the chapter by the end of the year. Don't know if I'll make it, but I'll try my damnedest.
Your art quality still impress me after looking at some other VN. Their's seams to mostly use assets as is, while yours seams to have a lot of personalisation.
I do my best to avoid the "off the shelf" look you seen in a lot of VNs. Not to say that I fault those devs who do roll with the defaults because stuff like customizing clothes and building your own interiors is time-consuming and tedious work.
I honestly have some conserns about some aspects, but it is something I am sure you have already discussed with others close to you and weigted the pros and cons of. So I'm just gona not even bring it up and trust you about it.
If you don't want to say anything publicly, then you can direct message me here on F95 or on Discord. I'll do my best to answer any questions you may have bar spoiling the story. I'd gladly spend the time to respond to a paying customer.
 

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Nha, my conserns are mainly my own, I don't want to bother you with them. After posting I regreted it a bit, feeling that I might have piqued your curiosity. I am sure it is something you might have thought of. And discussing would not be in spoiler teritory (yet)

To hell with it. ( my reserve didn't last long) I played an other game caled Beauty and the thug. In it you can alter the hairyness of the characters. (also realy well done) but all characters follow your choice without ecception. It some how makes it so that something that could be varied and special is less so. MàM propose a similar feature even if admitedly it is more involved in the story. I am just conserned that making all the women either cis or futanari (all or nothing) is making them less unique. And maybe force your hand to leave some story you would have wanted to tell on the table. Then again, if all women are Futanari, there is no need to explain it, it just is how the world is. so I can see pros and cons, it just leave me with a small nagging feeling. Nothing that can prevent my enjoyment of the game thow. If I can pull an example from Beauty and the Thug: a character on the beach is met, this character is into tatoos and piercings. It would make sense for her to be clean shaven to show off her art. But if you choose to go for a hairy style, she still is hairy. So nothing massive, just sometimes pull you out of the game for a quarter of a second and you have to make a small effort to dive back into the game. The all or nothing futanari, give me the impression that it will do the same thing to me.

So nothing preventing overall enjoyment of the game and I am sure nothing you havent thought of yet. And I am sure as hell not here to argue that your choice is wrong, that would be stupid. You do You.

P.S. on a side note, is there a way to do a tab at the start of a paragraph on this forum.
 
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Nha, my conserns are mainly my own, I don't want to bother you with them. After posting I regreted it a bit, feeling that I might have piqued your curiosity. I am sure it is something you might have thought of. And discussing would not be in spoiler teritory (yet)

To hell with it. ( my reserve didn't last long) I played an other game caled Beauty and the thug. In it you can alter the hairyness of the characters. (also realy well done) but all characters follow your choice without ecception. It some how makes it so that something that could be varied and special is less so. MàM propose a similar feature even if admitedly it is more involved in the story. I am just conserned that making all the women either cis or futanari (all or nothing) is making them less unique. And maybe force your hand to leave some story you would have wanted to tell on the table. Then again, if all women are Futanari, there is no need to explain it, it just is how the world is. so I can see pros and cons, it just leave me with a small nagging feeling. Nothing that can prevent my enjoyment of the game thow. If I can pull an example from Beauty and the Thug: a character on the beach is met, this character is into tatoos and piercings. It would make sense for her to be clean shaven to show off her art. But if you choose to go for a hairy style, she still is hairy. So nothing massive, just sometimes pull you out of the game for a quarter of a second and you have to make a small effort to dive back into the game. The all or nothing futanari, give me the impression that it will do the same thing to me.

So nothing preventing overall enjoyment of the game and I am sure nothing you havent thought of yet. And I am sure as hell not here to argue that your choice is wrong, that would be stupid. You do You.

P.S. on a side note, is there a way to do a tab at the start of a paragraph on this forum.
The binary nature of choosing between females and futanari is based on practicality first and foremost. Without going all or nothing, the amount of extra variables and renders it would take to provide enough combinations for scenes would be outside my capability. I mean, I'm already behind schedule and known for taking a while to release anything. Adding more work would only slow me down more and more.

I would hope that players view the characters' personalities and other qualities as unique, and consider the genital options as mere personal customization beyond that. One of my design goals is that scenes should work either way without me needing to do any world-building to explain futanari or anything extra to accommodate them. For me, when I pick the futanari option in games that have that choice, I don't make up any headcanon to justify it, it simply is. I know that may not be the same for others, but I doubt I could give a satisfactory answer that was reasonable, easy to explain, and non-interfering with other aspects of the story.

The very existence of futanari requires some handwaving, and I'll leave it up to the players to determine for themselves what makes the most sense (aka headcanon).

Hopefully, this post eased some of your concerns.
 
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Like I said, it is a me thing and I understand the constrain under witch you make your game so you won't hear criticisim from me. (My conserns are my own and they are not criticisim.) While righting my previous post I came to the realisation that some of your choices made sense. If all women are futanari then that is just the nature of the world, no need to try and explain it. It just is what it is. I gess I am just so used to seeing stories in witch characters get transformed into futanari via plot device or with world characteristics that can easyly explain it that I end up with a subconsious expectation that there is an explenation for it when it is not mendatory. And well whille making your characters stand on their own personality with out consideration for what is in their pants is great and shoud be what comes first. Our physical state affect our personality weather we want it or not. some one who broke his leg might be in constant pain regardless of painkillers and as such become impatient or grumpy. So while I see some oportunity for story telling and personality defining, you want to do something else and there is nothing wrong with that. That is even great, it alows me to broaden my experiences and see an other aproche. I look forward to Reading the rest of the story you want to tell.
 
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Huh, this release took a lot longer to get pirated than I thought it would. For new people coming in, I'm currently rerendering the stuff that came after the demo in 4k since I upgraded my graphics card after I finished the renders for Part 1. If you don't think there is enough content, I agree and I'm working on it. I wanted to hold off the public release of Chapter 1 until the whole chapter was complete because I do relatively smaller updates than what a lot of F95 users find acceptable.

For returning players, saves from the demo are NOT COMPATIBLE. I would also advise a clean sweep of that pesky Ren'Py persistent file just to be safe (no reported issues so far).

Oh, and if you are one of those players who want male MCs to be overly confident, stronger, etc., you'll have to wait until Part 3 to get a glimpse of what's to come for him. The male MC grows over time, with no automatic shortcuts to being some suave badass before the age of 20. I took the trope of the MC saving the girl and gave the scenario some realistic consequences. After all, you can't have Luke jump from farmboy to Jedi Knight without at least a little teenage whining and angst in between.

Edit: I updated the screenshots in the OP with some of the new 4k renders (scaled down to 1080 of course) from scenes in this release. Obviously, those will look a little better than what is currently in-game.
 
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Pretty short. It's well polished - I liked all the options for stuff like the textbox and font to be there in the game, as well as getting to rename all the characters (male mc's father didn't stick though).

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Does seem a bit odd that either everyone is a futa or no one is... if they're gonna go to the trouble of having both be in the game anyway then I can't see why it'd not be selectable per character.
 
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