Freki

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dark story or normal story to play first
as Dark Silence said, the dark is only a single shot that is not cannon and has no background to start with and is over with very quickly. the real fun is in the normal VN.. trust me you can enjoy a lot and depending on choices you take can get a good number of replays as well :) enjoy it's fun, there is a "dark" path in how to treat the wife in the beginning but that was dropped quickly by the dev. just something that you should know :) so enjoy it all! (sorry Dark silence i errored entering your name :) )
 
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Krynh

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huh. a lot less content than I thought there would be. and I haven't played in over a year
 

girlfairdev

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Normal first. As the dark was only a test type release to relieve writers block.
Wondering about this one's future though...that release was month's ago. I haven't really been able to follow the direction of this storyline or make much sense of it over the last couple updates anyway. It seems to be getting more into the swinging mode which will flag my farewell. I have nothing negative to interject, it just simply isn't to my taste. I really liked the story for quite a while, though, so that would be a shame. The dark episode was well received also, which frankly I found to be a bit disturbing but whatever...different strokes I guess. Personally, I wouldn't be disappointed if that one was a one off.
 
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Wondering about this one's future though...that release was month's ago. I haven't really been able to follow the direction of this storyline or make much sense of it over the last couple updates anyway. It seems to be getting more into the swinging mode which will flag my farewell. I have nothing negative to interject, it just simply isn't to my taste. I really liked the story for quite a while, though, so that would be a shame. The dark episode was well received also, which frankly I found to be a bit disturbing but whatever...different strokes I guess. Personally, I wouldn't be disappointed if that one was a one off.
Here we are again:
https://f95zone.to/threads/midlife-crisis-v0-34-v0-1-dark-nefastus-games.20427/post-12480378
https://f95zone.to/threads/midlife-crisis-v0-34-v0-1-dark-nefastus-games.20427/post-11321142

Now write at least a 100 times:
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I will inform myself, before I come to such a conclusion. There is no dark path, only one one version of the game exist and even that version of the game is incomplete and do not yet have all path in it, that the dev has plans for.:devilish::p
 
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girlfairdev

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There is no dark path
I got that, and get that, yet we still are nearly 4 months from the last update of any kind. If the goal was to erase writer's block, I'm assuming that may still be an issue.
Makes no difference when, I don't fret about that stuff. Pointless in this genre if you look at it statistically. I'm just making an observation about a game I've liked to play for a while now. I'm also not one to piss and moan if a game goes in a direction I'm not good with. I simply move on to others. There are plenty. I'm quite informed, BTW, so thank you very much for your concern. Speaking of which, maybe read the whole post before emitting redundant snipes.
 

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huh. a lot less content than I thought there would be. and I haven't played in over a year
probably some of your past choices locking you out of some content. i don't know what patch you played last but still gotta be mindful of several things there too.
 

c3p0

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I got that, and get that, yet we still are nearly 4 months from the last update of any kind. If the goal was to erase writer's block, I'm assuming that may still be an issue.
So, done some statistic for as far as I could go back:

Game version​
Date​
Time between updates [d]​
Time between updates [M]​
Average time between updates [M]​
0.12a​
2019-11-08​
0.15a​
2020-02-10​
94​
3.13​
3.13​
0.16a​
2020-03-13​
32​
1.07​
2.10​
0.17​
2020-04-14​
32​
1.07​
1.76​
0.18​
2020-05-21​
37​
1.23​
1.63​
0.19​
2020-06-19​
29​
0.97​
1.49​
0.20​
2020-07-20​
31​
1.03​
1.42​
0.21​
2020-09-28​
70​
2.33​
1.55​
0.22​
2020-11-03​
36​
1.20​
1.50​
0.23​
2020-12-24​
51​
1.70​
1.53​
0.24​
2021-03-23​
89​
2.97​
1.67​
0.25​
2021-05-19​
57​
1.90​
1.69​
0.26​
2021-09-13​
117​
3.90​
1.88​
0.27​
2021-11-24​
72​
2.40​
1.92​
0.28a​
2022-03-16​
112​
3.73​
2.05​
0.29​
2022-06-10​
86​
2.87​
2.10​
0.30​
2022-09-01​
83​
2.77​
2.14​
0.31​
2022-11-15​
75​
2.50​
2.16​
0.32​
2023-01-08​
54​
1.80​
2.14​
0.33​
2023-05-19​
131​
4.37​
2.26​
0.34​
2023-08-31​
104​
3.47​
2.32​
Min​
0.97​
Max​
4.37​
Average​
2.32​
Standard deviation​
1.06​

As it shows update time can be between nearly a month and over 4 months. Going from 31th of August this years, that would mean next year.

Only thing for sure, as a trend, it shows that Nefs pigeons becoming slower.

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Krynh

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probably some of your past choices locking you out of some content. i don't know what patch you played last but still gotta be mindful of several things there too.
Incest enabled doing it with everyone. A year was a bit of an exaggeration
 

Mahony

Member
Jun 2, 2017
109
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So, done some statistic for as far as I could go back:

Game version​
Date​
Time between updates [d]​
Time between updates [M]​
Average time between updates [M]​
0.12a​
2019-11-08​
0.15a​
2020-02-10​
94​
3.13​
3.13​
0.16a​
2020-03-13​
32​
1.07​
2.10​
0.17​
2020-04-14​
32​
1.07​
1.76​
0.18​
2020-05-21​
37​
1.23​
1.63​
0.19​
2020-06-19​
29​
0.97​
1.49​
0.20​
2020-07-20​
31​
1.03​
1.42​
0.21​
2020-09-28​
70​
2.33​
1.55​
0.22​
2020-11-03​
36​
1.20​
1.50​
0.23​
2020-12-24​
51​
1.70​
1.53​
0.24​
2021-03-23​
89​
2.97​
1.67​
0.25​
2021-05-19​
57​
1.90​
1.69​
0.26​
2021-09-13​
117​
3.90​
1.88​
0.27​
2021-11-24​
72​
2.40​
1.92​
0.28a​
2022-03-16​
112​
3.73​
2.05​
0.29​
2022-06-10​
86​
2.87​
2.10​
0.30​
2022-09-01​
83​
2.77​
2.14​
0.31​
2022-11-15​
75​
2.50​
2.16​
0.32​
2023-01-08​
54​
1.80​
2.14​
0.33​
2023-05-19​
131​
4.37​
2.26​
0.34​
2023-08-31​
104​
3.47​
2.32​
Min​
0.97​
Max​
4.37​
Average​
2.32​
Standard deviation​
1.06​

As it shows update time can be between nearly a month and over 4 months. Going from 31th of August this years, that would mean next year.

Only thing for sure, as a trend, it shows that Nefs pigeons becoming slower.

Edit:
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Shit always happens with H Games, devs drawing the arse out of story to make money off it instead of progressing it and trying a new project, making the updates longer and longer as thing need to be linked or the general writers block of working on the same story for years. I wont say Nefs like that yet but i can definitely see it going that way.
 

4st3r1sc0

Member
Jul 5, 2020
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So, done some statistic for as far as I could go back:

Game version​
Date​
Time between updates [d]​
Time between updates [M]​
Average time between updates [M]​
0.12a​
2019-11-08​
0.15a​
2020-02-10​
94​
3.13​
3.13​
0.16a​
2020-03-13​
32​
1.07​
2.10​
0.17​
2020-04-14​
32​
1.07​
1.76​
0.18​
2020-05-21​
37​
1.23​
1.63​
0.19​
2020-06-19​
29​
0.97​
1.49​
0.20​
2020-07-20​
31​
1.03​
1.42​
0.21​
2020-09-28​
70​
2.33​
1.55​
0.22​
2020-11-03​
36​
1.20​
1.50​
0.23​
2020-12-24​
51​
1.70​
1.53​
0.24​
2021-03-23​
89​
2.97​
1.67​
0.25​
2021-05-19​
57​
1.90​
1.69​
0.26​
2021-09-13​
117​
3.90​
1.88​
0.27​
2021-11-24​
72​
2.40​
1.92​
0.28a​
2022-03-16​
112​
3.73​
2.05​
0.29​
2022-06-10​
86​
2.87​
2.10​
0.30​
2022-09-01​
83​
2.77​
2.14​
0.31​
2022-11-15​
75​
2.50​
2.16​
0.32​
2023-01-08​
54​
1.80​
2.14​
0.33​
2023-05-19​
131​
4.37​
2.26​
0.34​
2023-08-31​
104​
3.47​
2.32​
Min​
0.97​
Max​
4.37​
Average​
2.32​
Standard deviation​
1.06​

As it shows update time can be between nearly a month and over 4 months. Going from 31th of August this years, that would mean next year.

Only thing for sure, as a trend, it shows that Nefs pigeons becoming slower.

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And it has been 117days since 0.34. But, with the small side story, it will likely take even more for 0.35
 
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Ayhsel

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May 9, 2019
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So, done some statistic for as far as I could go back:

Game version​
Date​
Time between updates [d]​
Time between updates [M]​
Average time between updates [M]​
0.12a​
2019-11-08​
0.15a​
2020-02-10​
94​
3.13​
3.13​
0.16a​
2020-03-13​
32​
1.07​
2.10​
0.17​
2020-04-14​
32​
1.07​
1.76​
0.18​
2020-05-21​
37​
1.23​
1.63​
0.19​
2020-06-19​
29​
0.97​
1.49​
0.20​
2020-07-20​
31​
1.03​
1.42​
0.21​
2020-09-28​
70​
2.33​
1.55​
0.22​
2020-11-03​
36​
1.20​
1.50​
0.23​
2020-12-24​
51​
1.70​
1.53​
0.24​
2021-03-23​
89​
2.97​
1.67​
0.25​
2021-05-19​
57​
1.90​
1.69​
0.26​
2021-09-13​
117​
3.90​
1.88​
0.27​
2021-11-24​
72​
2.40​
1.92​
0.28a​
2022-03-16​
112​
3.73​
2.05​
0.29​
2022-06-10​
86​
2.87​
2.10​
0.30​
2022-09-01​
83​
2.77​
2.14​
0.31​
2022-11-15​
75​
2.50​
2.16​
0.32​
2023-01-08​
54​
1.80​
2.14​
0.33​
2023-05-19​
131​
4.37​
2.26​
0.34​
2023-08-31​
104​
3.47​
2.32​
Min​
0.97​
Max​
4.37​
Average​
2.32​
Standard deviation​
1.06​

As it shows update time can be between nearly a month and over 4 months. Going from 31th of August this years, that would mean next year.

Only thing for sure, as a trend, it shows that Nefs pigeons becoming slower.

Edit:
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Very nice analysis!

He used to be faster, that is undeniable. More consistent too: not just faster, but more estable on time between updates. That is, lower mean and variance of ETA random variable.

If it puts too much pressure on him, i dont mind he going slower. Health should be priority.
 
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c3p0

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And it has been 117days since 0.34. But, with the small side story, it will likely take even more for 0.35
Going with the date I've seen on Subscribestar and the 0.34 post is on the 31th of August. So, I don't change it. Not saying, it could be a few days before or after that, but I don't change, so the data shoould be in itself consistance.
Very nice analysis!
Have the setup already from another game, I've done that. Just add a little more statistic into it and I've seen to have too much free time that I don't use for other more trivial put also important things (eg. house-cleaning:HideThePain:).:KEK:
He used to be faster, that is undeniable. More consistent too: not just faster, but more estable on time between updates. That is, lower mean and variance between ETA random variable.
Yes, need to dope his pigeons so that they can fly faster.:LOL:
If it puts too much pressure on him, i dont mind he going slower. Health should be priority.
(y)(y)(y)
Shit always happens with H Games, devs drawing the arse out of story to make money off it instead of progressing it and trying a new project, making the updates longer and longer as thing need to be linked or the general writers block of working on the same story for years. I wont say Nefs like that yet but i can definitely see it going that way.
That can happen, but for 1-3k apprixmate from 491 Patrons with tiers between 1$ and 50$ per month, I wouldn't think that is an good source of passive income, if it would be your only one. And if not, even at USA minimum wage (7.25$) that gives alone over 1100 $ per month. So, doubt it, usually dev's don't make that much, all cost and hours considerated: https://f95zone.to/posts/9538063/
 

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Going with the date I've seen on Subscribestar and the 0.34 post is on the 31th of August. So, I don't change it. Not saying, it could be a few days before or after that, but I don't change, so the data shoould be in itself consistance.

Have the setup already from another game, I've done that. Just add a little more statistic into it and I've seen to have too much free time that I don't use for other more trivial put also important things (eg. house-cleaning:HideThePain:).:KEK:

Yes, need to dope his pigeons so that they can fly faster.:LOL:

(y)(y)(y)

That can happen, but for 1-3k apprixmate from 491 Patrons with tiers between 1$ and 50$ per month, I wouldn't think that is an good source of passive income, if it would be your only one. And if not, even at USA minimum wage (7.25$) that gives alone over 1100 $ per month. So, doubt it, usually dev's don't make that much, all cost and hours considerated: https://f95zone.to/posts/9538063/
I find it odd that a ton of people think that the VN makers are Only working on the game and should be super fast not realizing that they have a job other then making the VN porn game
 

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That can happen, but for 1-3k apprixmate from 491 Patrons with tiers between 1$ and 50$ per month, I wouldn't think that is an good source of passive income, if it would be your only one. And if not, even at USA minimum wage (7.25$) that gives alone over 1100 $ per month. So, doubt it, usually dev's don't make that much, all cost and hours considerated: https://f95zone.to/posts/9538063/
I don't know where they live, but that's only true for USA and a fistful of other countries, there are many places where you are settled with $1100 per month of passive income. And lets say everyone is subscribed at $5 for math's sake(second cheapest and a single person at $50 makes up for 10 at $1) and he has no one on subscribestar. That's more than $2k a month, where I live you are settled with that even if you have 2 kids, a partner and are taking care of your sick parent.
 

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Of course you could also pull a MrDots out of your sleeve and adding a full episode to it with no "real" story* at all.
Okay, so let's see ... fuck Christine, fuck Amanda, tell wife how hot she looks, hotter than ever, fuck Christine, fuck Amanda, tell wife how hot she looks, hotter than ever, talk to Haley for three lines, repeat, only tomorrof it's Jennifer. Yeah, can let that go on for ages, Dotty.
 

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Okay, so let's see ... fuck Christine, fuck Amanda, tell wife how hot she looks, hotter than ever, fuck Christine, fuck Amanda, tell wife how hot she looks, hotter than ever, talk to Haley for three lines, repeat, only tomorrof it's Jennifer. Yeah, can let that go on for ages, Dotty.
Well you can add some more pregnancies to that, yeah it is a good thing nef can write great sex scenes and likable characters and ha also a sense of humor. Purely as main story beat the big things are corrupting his wive to not only get the daughters officially in and also active with them likely, having mc's sister officially move in and some of the fall out of those things being resolved. If nef wants to do more then he would likely need a new storyline with added characters. But would that in the end be not just a repeat of moves and beats already seen either? Since we would still mainly have same Mc and same supporting cast.

For me as long as Nef can write great scenes with these characters though I do not mind this carousel at all. Rather some great scenes with people that care about each other that are not really highly story driven as bad scenes in another story of a basically mentally 13 yo that is supposed to take on a crime organization or other overly dramatic and oh so highly unbelievable superhero/secret agent that can not tie their own laces. Games with a great tone like this are rare, lets not throw them away for something else that some may want. Not every game has to be about extreme dramatic story or progress.

Edit: This game has some story and story lines, but it has never been the main strength of the game, that was always the interaction of the characters.
 

lemonfreak

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This. People believe making a VN is essentially free. Just the amount of digital assets you need to buy can make most projects unfeasible.

Not really. Story progression has nothing to do with dev lacking motivation but more to do with the nature of the story.

Ultimately, this is a game about fucking your family. MC has already done that. So where can the story go from here? Main source of conflict has already been resolved. Just "landlady" knowing we are fucking daught... i mean tenants is missing.

Even the "I knocked up my 18 years old tenant's best friend" conflict seems to be almost resolved by her daddy being overall okeyish and even wife accepting.

If you ask me, might be time to wrap things up and move to a new project.

Might help with dev's writing blockade.
Per my recent comments in Nef's Discord, we (the lovers of trans girls and futas) are still owed a payoff from the conversation with Erica (sex worker) about introducing Steve (MC) to chicks with dicks :sneaky:
 

Cartageno

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Edit: This game has some story and story lines, but it has never been the main strength of the game, that was always the interaction of the characters.
As I said earlier, writing for me comes on (a bit simplified) three levels: (a) writing a good overall story/plot, (b) having flowing scenes, sentences and paragraphs that just work and are nice to read, (c) technical writing aspects as spelling, grammar, correct words, and so forth.

I am still astonished at how this novel manages to do the basics at best at two of these levels (a and c) and still get away with it because b is just so ridiculously enjoyable. Yet here we are.
 
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