Q Who

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Apparently they don't have the GPU enabled rendering for the 2080 series for now.

Most of the game data is done. adding stuff takes time, sure, but the coding is mainly done. For myself, it's custom coding stuff. For his, it's the same as almost every other game. Possibly a simple asset purchased online. But the poke-through is only a problem with clothing. Most scenes don't have clothing on, and once with Daz, there is built in morph choices. I honestly don't think that is as difficult as some make it seem.
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This picture took my friend 1 minute and 30 seconds.
Shhh. Don't shatter the illusion that he is working oh so hard. You seem to know what you are talking about BTW. I can't believe he laid the groundwork for more delays. This is June all over again. LOL, now he will say(JK) that because of the delay he wants to add more content. I know that he will pump up an update at some point. Possibly this month, but it is funny. Why is his estimate so wide. 8 to 12 days? Does anyone think it is for 8 days? He should just be honest and say it like the supporters here. It will come out when I decide to release it. 700 DMs over what period of time? A day? 3 months? This guy is a constant victim. Who sets a very low bar for himself work-wise.
 

DiddlerGames

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Shhh. Don't shatter the illusion that he is working oh so hard. You seem to know what you are talking about BTW. I can't believe he laid the groundwork for more delays. This is June all over again. LOL, now he will say(JK) that because of the delay he wants to add more content. I know that he will pump up an update at some point. Possibly this month, but it is funny. Why is his estimate so wide. 8 to 12 days? Does anyone think it is for 8 days? He should just be honest and say it like the supporters here. It will come out when I decide to release it. 700 DMs over what period of time? A day? 3 months? This guy is a constant victim. Who sets a very low bar for himself work-wise.
And with the money he is making, hire a community manager. someone to read and reply to messages for an hour or 2 a day.
 
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Arthoneceron

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This is stupid. Do you understand that? You just incite immature users.
Yes, I'm a immature user.

You know that August has 31 days and not 30, right?
In 21 days it'll be the 30th. Perhaps you should look at your calendar once in a while.
Make an exercise of imagination. People around this forum can be living in Russia or in Los Angeles. This is a approximate date of release based on the hour of my post.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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Make an exercise of imagination. People around this forum can be living in Russia or in Los Angeles. This is a approximate date of release based on the hour of my post.
Check your facts. In most -if not all the time of this post- places across the world it's still the 9th of August. The only location that might be a full day ahead is Australia.
 
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dannyoceanic

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Shhh. Don't shatter the illusion that he is working oh so hard. You seem to know what you are talking about BTW. I can't believe he laid the groundwork for more delays. This is June all over again. LOL, now he will say(JK) that because of the delay he wants to add more content. I know that he will pump up an update at some point. Possibly this month, but it is funny. Why is his estimate so wide. 8 to 12 days? Does anyone think it is for 8 days? He should just be honest and say it like the supporters here. It will come out when I decide to release it. 700 DMs over what period of time? A day? 3 months? This guy is a constant victim. Who sets a very low bar for himself work-wise.
People like him only learn the hard way, which would be if most of his patreons stop supporting him, then he would decide its time to put in some effort.
Unfortunately his supporters don't see whats going on behind the scenes and are still following him after such a long period of time, thats what I call dedication.
The game will come when it will come out.
 
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ijako3

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And with the money he is making, hire a community manager. someone to read and reply to messages for an hour or 2 a day.
I agree with the community manager option, because what he said just make it looks like there are no other options, but it's just a lie.
Hell, get a writer to check some of your DM's, because they didn't have anything to do for the past 8 months or so.

You have other developers that work just as hard and have time to - Create new content, talk on discord, talk on patreon and even some of them talk here on almost daily basis.

When you have so many paying supporters and take a break, update takes longer or whatever then people expect to get an answer from your team, not some randoms that just happened to like and support the same game on discord.
 
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fried

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Apparently they don't have the GPU enabled rendering for the 2080 series for now.

Most of the game data is done. adding stuff takes time, sure, but the coding is mainly done. For myself, it's custom coding stuff. For his, it's the same as almost every other game. Possibly a simple asset purchased online. But the poke-through is only a problem with clothing. Most scenes don't have clothing on, and once with Daz, there is built in morph choices. I honestly don't think that is as difficult as some make it seem.
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This picture took my friend 1 minute and 30 seconds.
I really don't know what you are trying to prove here, because as I said your assumptions about how much work goes into what becomes a final render is only partly related to the actual render time - many of your assertions on how quickly things can be adjusted to ICSTOR's apparent standards were simply too idealistic (and I showed examples of that). You seem to be armchair-quarterbacking someone who already produces a visibly high-quality product, so if you really feel that you can improve upon his process, maybe hit his Discord and offer your Daz 3D / Iray / Project Management skills.

I don't want to sound mean, but although that render above is fine it is nowhere near something I'd expect to see in Milfy City, quality-wise (materials, lighting, rendering and composition). Look at ICSTOR's most recent previews in this topic and some major differences will pop out immediately, but if you want a full critique we should take it out of this topic. We can all render a basic scene with "eh" posing, lighting, weak materials and noise/grain - what you do beyond that is what becomes your signature style for a given series, release or project.

I mean, this render took over 25 minutes with 3xGPUs and Octane instead of Iray - a lone 1060 would have a fun time with it, I'm sure: https://f95zone.to/threads/the-visit-v0-10-fix2-stiglet.10361/page-163#post-2103541 . Even though it was just a quickie to show off an outfit which was referenced in the thread, it still took some time to compose and get the materials + lighting halfway decent for appearing like a sudden standoff in an early morning timeframe for an alleyway that would soon be waking up. I'm not claiming it's the greatest thing in the world (because it ain't), but it contains examples of elements, adjustments, settings and output that I've been talking to in my past two posts.

There are ways to optimize render times in Daz Iray, especially using tools such as Iray section planes to cut out unnecessary geometry from a scene being rendered. But even there, that creates lighting and related environment considerations which still need to be adjusted for.
 
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Noxusa

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I'm not a Patreon so I don't really have any right to speak. However, I can only imagine how frustrating the wait must be for ICSTOR's Patreons. I mean, the last update was around, what, 260 days ago? That's a ridiculous amount of time to work on an update when you have people backing you up.

I'm actually impressed he has so many GPUs. I admire the work that he has already done. I myself have no idea how to even begin creating those scenes and renders (would love to learn it). I'll just play the update whenever it comes out, as I really have no right to complain. But I just feel bad for his Patreons. ICSTOR is one of the bigger names on the website too, so the expectations are high.
 

Rodzaju

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I'm dreading the day the update actually is done and the couple of hours between being made available and uploaded here there will be 1000 comments on this thread all wondering where it is.
I almost hope that there is some secret agreement to hold off uploading it here for 24 - 48 hours, just to see the begging / demanding shitstorm...

Bonus points for claiming that the release statement is a lie to keep stringing along patrons for another month...
Of course it's a lie. If it really had been released, it would be here!!

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