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InfamousGuy

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and me who thought you learned how to be more respectful.........but ur right tho if u don't want the dev to take your money just don't pledge to him or stop your pledging
Respect? You're going on about how Patreon allows devs to be lazy. Implying that devs are lazy. You shouldn't be talking about respect when you obviously don't have any for devs. Avaron has every right to call you out for your flawed statement.
 
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Avaron1974

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Respect? You're going on about how Patreon allows devs to be lazy. Implying that devs are lazy. You shouldn't be talking about respect when you obviously don't have any for devs. Avaron has every right to call you out for your flawed statement.
It wasn't Killer I called out, it was someone else.

Killer's talking about a post I made on another thread saying i'd tone down my snark because I get a bit, a tiny bit, carried away at times.
 
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Arthoneceron

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I could point at least 20 competent creators that could really greatly benefit from 1/20 of the ICSTOR support and greatly expand their projects because of that.

Since it's not my money, I couldn't care less of it, but I wished that I've never played this game at the first place. Damn you Chloe18 Back to Class that was so bad that I had to search for anything to remove the bad taste on my mouth with an actually good game.

Well, time to put my clown nose, I suppose.
 
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Pirate King

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OMG delay again?!! No way!! I can't believe this happening... Just kidding I know that's happening because it's ICSTOR ahaha.. I want to cry...
 
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DaweFan69

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If it makes you feel any better, mine got deleted too. Even if what we say is true, it's still our fault at the end of the day for breaking the rules
 

RC-1138 Boss

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parico65 shoed yet another rat from the fetid, rotting mound of raw hamburger meat he found in the dumpster behind the Taco Bell. That damned ICSTOR, he thought to himself. It's all his fault! I had a life once! A house! A career! A family! If only he hadn't been such a lazy, freeloading bastard!

Milfy City 0.6 had been delayed again, and because of that, he had lost everything. And now here he was, his boner raging, fighting with the rats for scraps of putrid, disgusting offal to sate his hunger.

I'll have my revenge! He told himself as he shoveled the meat desperately into his mouth. I'll file a massive lawsuit! He'll be sorry! They'll all be sorry they did this to me!

parico65 bent his spine backward 90 degrees and laughed with maniacal fury, maggots writhing between his teeth.
You should ask Icstor for a job as a writter. :p

Not trying to offend him, his renders are top notch but his stories are as shallow as a brine.
 
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Viressa

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You should ask Icstor for a job as a writter. :p

Not tryinf to offend him, his renders are top notch but his stories are as shallow as a brine.
ICSTOR already does have a writer, actually, he posts here as Onyxdime. And I honestly think the story in this game is pretty good, by the standards of other porn games on this site.

Onyxdime literally has to put words to the pictures for the entire update within just a few days before an update's release. Producing good work quickly under a tight deadline is not my strong suit: It takes me months to produce anything good. Plus, because he has to work with pre-made renders, it's very Marvel Method-y, and it's much harder to do good storytelling this way than writing a script that the artist then puts pictures to.

(Also I work purely in prose and have no experience writing for comics or VNs, unless you count my fanfic mod for KoD. All in all I'd be a bad choice.)
 

DaweFan69

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Well Milfy City doesn't really have a story, at least not in the conventional sense. Though the writing is pretty good, but I wish it would have a deeper story. That would make it go from a 9/10 to a 10 for me depending if they can make it really good
 
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Viressa

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Well Milfy City doesn't really have a story, at least not in the conventional sense. Though the writing is pretty good, but I wish it would have a deeper story. That would make it go from a 9/10 to a 10 for me depending if they can make it really good
It does, each girl has their own storyline with a coherent arc. There's no overarching story that ties all of these sub-narratives together, but this is what you have to do in a sandbox-style game like this, where you can do routes in any order and ignore girls you don't like.
 

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ICSTOR already does have a writer, actually, he posts here as Onyxdime. And I honestly think the story in this game is pretty good, by the standards of other porn games on this site.

Onyxdime literally has to put words to the pictures for the entire update within just a few days before an update's release. Producing good work quickly under a tight deadline is not my strong suit: It takes me months to produce anything good. Plus, because he has to work with pre-made renders, it's very Marvel Method-y, and it's much harder to do good storytelling this way than writing a script that the artist then puts pictures to.

(Also I work purely in prose and have no experience writing for comics or VNs, unless you count my fanfic mod for KoD. All in all I'd be a bad choice.)
The writer has to write the story after the renders are done? What the hell was Icstor thinking when the made that decision? No wonder things on the story look so absurd.
 

DaweFan69

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The writer has to write the story after the renders are done? What the hell was Icstor thinking when the made that decision? No wonder things on the story look so absurd.
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Most games are done like that actually, specially in the AAA game industry. They first decide the mechanics, gameplay, style, locations, length, etc and the story comes last. But yea I don't like that model
 

Viressa

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The writer has to write the story after the renders are done? What the hell was Icstor thinking when the made that decision?
Here's basically how it works.

ICSTOR comes up with a broad outline for how the next chapter in a particular girl's arc will go in an update. I believe this is actually written down and given to Onyxdime later, but it might just stay in his head.

ICSTOR then makes renders for the story as detailed in the broad outline. When these renders are done, they're sent to Onyxdime, who writes dialogue to go with each image into a script. Finally the script is sent to a coder who actually implements the script + images into a playable VN.


It makes sense to do things this way if you're an artist, not a writer, but you still want to be the one with full creative control over the story and where it goes. The main problem is, other than the constraints it puts on the writer, the other members of the team have nothing to do but sit on their hands until the renders are all done. This can be fixed to a degree with some assembly line-style production: Sending renders to the writer in bundles rather than waiting until they're all done. This is apparently what they've started doing: ICSTOR mentioned that his coder has already completed some new minigames, which implies they were sent the renders used for those games before the whole set of renders was finished.
 

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