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Now we are at 1285 so that means....
585 pages of people asking about the date of the new update
- Jun 16, 2017
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Short version: You love censoring & hate free speech !
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Only if you're looking to grossly oversimplify things and intentionally omit the idea of someone increasing the pace/efficiency of their efforts in order to meet a self-imposed target date. (Shrug)
- Jun 16, 2017
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Promised release dates are why there are so many games nowadays released in a buggy, unfinished state.
- May 22, 2017
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Or late as fuck. Asking a precise date to patreon indie dev is asking to be disappointed. Just let them work.
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I really don't have a stake in any of this beyond the average denizen of this forum, but I keep harping on this because I really just have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that people are actually content with a system that has absolutely zero accountability. No checks, no balances, it just operates purely at the whim of whomever is collecting the money being thrown around.
It just seems like a horrifically inefficient (and borderline irresponsible) way to conduct an operation.
It just seems like a horrifically inefficient (and borderline irresponsible) way to conduct an operation.
- May 22, 2017
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This is why patreon isn't a storefront. i don't disagree. I'm scared to pledge money on crowdfunding projects because I'm not exactly rich. So I don't. And then I feel a bit bad when the game turns out actually awesome.
Point being. While I agree with you, I think it's kinda dumb to expect "professionalism" in that way.
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The releases are by definition buggy and unfinished. I have only had real issues with MNL being so buggy at points you had to use previous versions to pass roadblocks. Real games are completed before release not while in development.
- Jun 19, 2017
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But that's what patronage in the best sense of the word is - you give money and you don't really know what to expect in return. You know the direction it's going and you hope that your money will do good.
Sure, larger Devs like ICSTOR etc. could move to platforms like Kickstarter, which have a different approach, but most projects start very, very small and grow because patreons like what's there, hope that it's going to flourish and hope that money enables the dev to do better. It's an update to update business, not an investment.
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I mean I have no idea why you called me a communist, it doesn't make any sense. So I went with a dumb joke.
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Patreon is designed to serve the needs of creators. The whole point is for creators to be able to have a stable income they can use to create whatever they want, at the pace they find most comfortable. It is the opposite of working for a boss, where there are pre-defined production goals you have to meet and if you don't meet them, fuck you, you're homeless.
If you don't like that... don't give money to patreon pages. If you want to be able to boss an artist around to make exactly what you want, when exactly you want it, pay up for commissions.