Evangelion-01

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It's like people forgot Irredeemable. People will keep defending the dev. Especially when they've spent money on him. You need to admit you wasted your money on a dev. It's a difficult mental barrier to overcome.

Personally, I like icstor and his works. I understand if he is experiencing some burnout. I mean, having your source of income from making porn games is depressing. Not to mention you need to beg people money through patreon.
You know in order to beg you need to open your mouth and start communicating... something that ICSestor is REALLY bad at.
And even if he will never see this thread/Forum I hope that some backers do anyway and send some of the more constructive critisms his way.
He is far from perfect so hopefully he'll take some incentensives and improves.
 
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RC-1138 Boss

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I'm honestly looking more forward to that than the actual update itself it will be entertaining to see how this thread evolves once the update drops.
I will just grab the update.
That won't be the first time the same this situation happens around here and i doubt it will be the last. They will be singing praises for about a month before the complaints about the next release start again. :ROFLMAO:
 

batman666

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It's a shame because this is one of my favorite games but his patreon has become a cow farm where people willingly get milked without being rewarded. Sure, he could switch his Patreon from "per month" to per "creation"; but that would mean that he would have to work faster and drop more updates or just lose about 90% of his annual income through Patreon. But let's be honest. This is about porn games. It's not about morals or dignity. Enough authors have dropped from the face of the earth and there are only a few cases (Pandelo comes to mind) where they willingly stopped pledges for patrons themselves. Most of them keep milking people and it's not their fault for abusing people who seemingly pledge 10-20 bucks just to get a monthly apology (or even less). We're living in a time where lonely dudes pay 5 bucks of Fiverr so girls play League of Legends with them. It's a market, even though it's "just" 3D chicks.

If we want change, we don't just have to meme the shit out of the lazy ones. We have to drop the pledges and pledge to those 10-20% of authors who keep delivering. We gotta reward those who deserve it. That's why I'm pretty picky about my pledges.
 

Sheperdxgn

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I will just grab the update.
That won't be the first time the same this situation happens around here and i doubt it will be the last. They will be singing praises for about a month before the complaints about the next release start again. :ROFLMAO:
Same I'll grab the update and be quite about it but I won't hold my breath. The one thing about this thread is it's punctual of when chaos ensues.
 

Captain Kirk

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Ha my comment got deleted for recommending other games other than this one lol, okay i will talk about how milfy city continues to milk money from Patreon instead of giving people updates they want because they don’t ever want to end this cash cow. They might have to come up with a new game idea. And thats quite scary.
 

Teaber

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Without going into all the variables of writing I just want to touch on a few points.

-George R.R. Martin is a hack. I can only assume the reason we haven't seen the rest of his series is because he ran out of Western history to plagiarize.

-I have always found Stephen King's writing to be a little coarse and unpolished. His beginnings and middles are great, his endings are weak.

-I know that when I have those three things and I sit down to write, I can easily bang out 10k words in an afternoon. Maybe it's a gift.


The whole point of my post was that I do not find 60k to be an unbelievable benchmark. If Icstor says he's laid down 60k for this update, I have nothing, based on my personal experience, to doubt that. Though others lacking my personal experience clearly do.



And this is purely conjecture and highly dependent on the writer. My man Terry Pratchett wrote over 40 excellent novels in his lifetime, a couple of those while he had Alzheimer's. Perhaps story telling just comes more naturally to some than others. Either way, 60k is not a stretch.

Cheers mate.
Yeah, I know you were answering the "60k is impossible, man. I mean, what about The Bible, huh?" claim. It's just that, reading your statements on writing, I felt compelled to answer. And that's because, as you can see, we have entirely differing views on the subject. But what I said is not a conjecture; you (or anyone) can agree or disagree, but it's derived from a personal understanding of the creative process based on my academic knowledge on the matter and my experience (as I think it was made apparent, I'm also a writer, only not a video game writer). Of course, talent and capacity can make the difference (sometimes, all the difference), but, honestly, I don't think that has much to do with productivity. One person could fill pages for 8 hours straight a day, and still be unable to produce a text of literary value, while another would need the same time to produce 2 pages. But those are pages you never forget once you've read them.

Anyway, I just wanted to add this without derailing the topic up to the point of forcing a mod to pull the off-topic-ending hammer.

P.S. Oh, and let's just say that we have different views on most of the authors mentioned too, although just discussing Martin's merits (or lack therof) would take too much time. Well, at least we concur when it comes to Prachett. ;)
 
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Torrodog

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I won't get caught up in this rant, I will say this, "I was a Patron, now I am not". If you bother to look at his Patreon page you will note that he has 7486 monthly "patrons", now do some simple math if all of them "only" donate $1 dollar a month (and most were higher than that, I know I was) that amounts to $89,832.00 dollars a freaking year. Now where I live most people make less than a third of that working their butt's off 40 hours a week, so I feel that is some pretty good money to make games for people to fapp to.

I dropped my patron-age a few months ago due to the length of time between updates and have no regrets,
 

Zetta Man

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He is actually right, I just lied so y’all wouldn’t commit suicide. Sorry guys.

Unlike that other guy, I’m actually from the future. Here’s what really happens:

- Congress decides to settle the Trump impeachment thing with a high stakes pie eating contest involving all members of both houses, but it degenerates into a massive barf-o-rama when AOC pre-game chugs a bottle of castor oil to get back at Nancy Pelosi.

- Vladimir Putin promotes a bunch of white supremacists into his government and decides to save western civilization by nuking Germany and Western Europe. Trump nukes large portions of Africa and South America in an attempt to get revenge on the white supremacists.

- Despite dangerous levels of vomit and nuclear holocausts, ICSTOR manages to release a Milfy City Halloween special with approximately six minutes of playtime. The October release is, naturally, delayed for this.

- The release is rescheduled for late November, but is postponed to release a Thanksgiving mini-game involving Bob, the gremlin, and a turkey baster.

- Trump, acting on advice from his son Barron, tweets angrily at ICSTOR and, in a phone call with Italy’s new PM Salvini, threatens to put tariffs on Italian exports unless his government investigates the recurring delays in the Milfy City release. Democratic primary candidates respond heatedly, with Warren commenting “Me pay heapum big wampum in Patreon subscription”, Sanders screaming about “fatcats smoking cigars while young twin sisters struggle” as he flails his arms, and Biden making excited groping motions with his hands whenever Sara is mentioned.

- ICSTOR promises a December release as global media begins a concerted campaign against “incestcels” and their online campaign of misogyny and racist terrorism.

- After a series of mass shootings during the holiday season, before which the perpetrators posted anti-ICSTOR manifestos on the online hive of villainy and terrorism known as F95, Patreon pulls the plug on all erotic games, including Milfy City, just days before ICSTOR’s scheduled release. ICSTOR is extradited from Italy and forced to testify in front of a Congressional hearing, while the evil website F95 is seized and shutdown by the Department of Justice and the FBI conducts raids on its most prominent posters.

- Merry Christmas. See you in 2020!
 
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