I delivered pizzas in HS. I did not get paid shit by the parlor. I made my money off of people to lazy to pick up their own order. My point was that I see the support as a tip and not as a means for the developer to continue. I will tip for what you have done, not for what you might do in the future.
A "tip jar" of a few people each tossing devs a dollar or so a month doesn't allow these games to be made...just in DAZ assets/hardware alone.
I don't give anyone money so they can eventually make something. That is like the insanity of kick starter of indi go go. These are the days of the internet. Summertime Saga works on exactly this basis. If you give a buck and 5 or 10 thousand also give just a buck. That is 60k to 120k gross annually. Most of these games are one or 2 people. I am not paying for people's hardware, I am tipping for what you made already. Most businesses have to invest a lot of money before they see a single dime of income.
I can tell you from experience, one dev in particular (will go unnamed), that without this so called "kickstarter patreon" money....especially a surge after months of little/no support and visibility, he's not making games....PERIOD. That's probably the reality for the majority of devs out there (the very top few guys being outliers).
I treat games on here like I do my actual games, i'll throw some money at the devs when it's done.that's my secret, I don't pay for any of these games on here
The logic is simple, 20k per month is 240k per year. The US government releases average income levels and less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the working population 240K per year and if you do any sort of job search for animator pay you will see virtually zero ads for pay at the level you are talking about. I think this is pretty solid logic to base my opinion that few animators are making that kind of money.
Well... If noone earned anything (or very little) from said things...
Once the game is finished, the DVDs get burned, boxed and distributed to the retailers. At that point, the dev is rolling in dough. They need support while the game is in development, not after... some of these devs survive on nothing but soy ramen noodles, and bran flakes. Once they've made the big-time, they eat steak and lobster, and champagne breakfast in bed w/supermodels, but they may never finish if it weren't for their early supporters.
Because people look at Patreon numbers for Icstor, DarkCookie and others and say to themselves "I can do that too".
I think I already mentioned that good animators can earn up that amount of money per month ... So I think you get that why few gets that amount of money in your country.
I highly doubt that. Checked open positions at FromSoftware in graphics department. 4 open positions with high qualification requirements (University Grad. or 10 year exp.) and 8h work day pay 22000yen per month for employess and 400000yen for independent contractors. That's about 2000$ and 3800$ respectively, not even close to the "likely 120K a year".
Japan pays much, much lower on average than the Western game development industry, so FromSoftware is not a good example. However the only branches of game development likely to push a salary of around $120,000 a year is programming. I know some programmers in the industry who earn more than anyone else on the project outside of the project lead and programming lead.
