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Carpe Stultus

Engaged Member
Sep 30, 2018
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People on a pirate site complaining about deadlines and moral standards. What ... a ... joke.
And now take a look around how many dev's get help from those evil pirates be it with proofreading, giving them ideas and critiques to actually improve their game, testing their games, writing or money via patreon. You can spit on the evil pirates all you want but first you should learn that there is not only black or white....and second don't spit on yourself.
 

bauman

Active Member
Sep 11, 2018
621
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It's hilarious there are still people trying to make excuses for this guy. He earns the same amount of money as an experienced neurosurgeon does in the US. With all that cash coming his way, even if he's burned-out to shit, he should be able to build a proper team to do the heavy lifting for him and release regular updates. There are other top creators here, who alone release the same amount of content on quarterly basis, and some of them even do it as a side gig. It's obvious he doesn't care, but I can't blame him. It appears a lot of people love to throw their money at him. Even if he does not release anything until October 2020, he will still be able to pull in at least a few thousand willing patrons. Since he apparently moved to Switzerland recently, I hope he invested in a lakeside property around Lake Geneva. :LOL:
 

blahmeister

New Member
Feb 20, 2018
5
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And now take a look around how many dev's get help from those evil pirates be it with proofreading, giving them ideas and critiques to actually improve their game, testing their games, writing or money via patreon. You can spit on the evil pirates all you want but first you should learn that there is not only black or white....and second don't spit on yourself.
I don't believe I ever said anything about pirates being evil or whatever else you're insinuating ... I merely stated that people shouldn't be putting themselves on some moral pedestal complaining about something they get for free. I pirate, but I don't think I'm entitled to complain about it .. if I'm not willing to support them, then I really don't have any right to be mad about delays.

Video game companies, with HUNDREDS of employees consistently fall behind and push release dates ahead. This game is a 1-3 person team at best? Delays are not uncommon. If you're frustrated, .

Icstor may have once received help and inspiration from this site, but I very much doubt that's the case anymore. He has a Patreon base, and the only way things will change is if they stop supporting him - but even then, that shouldn't be your concern. If me or anyone else consistently told you what to do with your money, would you listen? Is it fair for me to tell you what to do with your money? If people are unhappy, they are capable of managing their money and hitting the unsubscribe button themselves.
 

Maragdus

Member
Jul 1, 2017
137
205
You obviously don't know how this works. The minute you sign up to a pirate site you are ENTITLED to receive free, TIMELY updates, and to criticize other people for how they spend their money while you don't.

You are also entitled to slam, trash and shit talk paying patreons while waiting for that update, and then go two face and beg one of these individuals that you've been shit posting to "please post the update".

It's all part of the circle of life.
In my opinion his current patrons deserve all the mockery and criticism they get because of their lack of common sense they are the people responsible for the lack of updets.I stopped supporting him as soon as he started getting big why because i know how people work and that you should never give them more than they need.People today are motivated mainly by two factors need and greed once they stop needing to do something their greed takes over.He is currently making anywhere between 25 and 50K a month and 300-600k during the last year(for more or less doing nothing) with this amount he can live a luxurious lifestyle in many countries and live like a king in most why the fuck should he spend 6-8 hours a day in front of a computer writing rendering and programing when he can be out enjoying his life at other peoples expense?If his current patrons dont wise up soon he will probably milk them for all they're worth for the next few months or year/s put out a few updates during that time to keep them interested and then abandon the game.
 

Sheperdxgn

Newbie
Mar 24, 2018
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The whole no animations genuinely caught me by surprise out of all the scenarios I pictured that wasn't it cheif. If Caroline's content was completed way back when like he claimed shouldn't that of included animations.


I swear this MF is like Goku just when you think he can't reach another level he seems to just pull it out his ass and top the previous one.

In the words of AngryJoe "YOU FUCKED IT UP".
 

andreibvb1

Member
Jun 2, 2017
219
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so the beta will be released on this weekend without animations and he will add the animations later on this month ?
 

Deleted User #713463

Engaged Member
Jun 28, 2018
2,005
396
its just me or all beacuse most of good game abendon or change there engine and its beacme worst and no much content in game beside grinding i dont know if its beacuse lack of patreons or time whatever its damm ashame
 

DaweFan69

Active Member
Jun 25, 2019
701
3,252
It's hilarious there are still people trying to make excuses for this guy. He earns the same amount of money as an experienced neurosurgeon does in the US. With all that cash coming his way, even if he's burned-out to shit, he should be able to build a proper team to do the heavy lifting for him and release regular updates. There are other top creators here, who alone release the same amount of content on quarterly basis, and some of them even do it as a side gig. It's obvious he doesn't care, but I can't blame him. It appears a lot of people love to throw their money at him. Even if he does not release anything until October 2020, he will still be able to pull in at least a few thousand willing patrons. Since he apparently moved to Switzerland recently, I hope he invested in a lakeside property around Lake Geneva. :LOL:
Wow so he moved to Switzerland? He must be making huge bucks cause I spent 2 weeks there and my total costs were 4k USD lol. Most expensive country in Europe by far
 

terroralpha

Member
May 1, 2017
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People on a pirate site complaining about deadlines and moral standards. What ... a ... joke.
a lot of the "pirates" here dropped $50-$100 over the course of several months and got nothing for it. just because YOU only pirate and never support any devs, don't assume everyone else does as well. i'm currently supporting 8 devs and i use to support icstor as well. without this website, i wouldn't know about most of the devs i support and they would never get my money.

also, the users on this "pirate site" often provide fixes for games that would otherwise be unplayable, provide tech support that would otherwise be the sole responsibility of the dev, and/or make mods that enhance the games.
 
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blahmeister

New Member
Feb 20, 2018
5
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a lot of the "pirates" here dropped $50-$100 over the course of several months and got nothing for it. just because YOU only pirate and never support any devs, don't assume everyone else does as well. i'm currently supporting 8 devs an di use to support icstor as well.
You and the others made a financial decision - that isn't my fault, nor am I criticizing you for it - you're free to do whatever you want with your own money. Donating to someone on Patreon is just that, a donation - there isn't a guarantee of anything in return.

also, the users on this "pirate site" often provide fixes for games that would otherwise be unplayable, provide tech support that would otherwise be the sole responsibility of the dev, and/or make mods that enhance the games.
That is the users choice. The dev is not beholden to them for doing anything.
 

Xill

Well-Known Member
Jan 10, 2018
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You guys that are complaining about the people whining on this forum, you do realize that with the money ICSTOR is making he should be making a game that's 10 times better than Milfy City right? And not a game thats a copy of the 20 other games on this site, let alone having said game delayed for months on end.

No I'm not bashing this game or any other game, they're mostly good but I'm just saying what ICSTOR is doing isn't justifiable.

It's like comparing EA to CDPR, first is a billion dollar company and the latter isn't, first makes half arsed games for a quick buck and the latter makes actual good games.
 

TommyEsclow

Member
Aug 18, 2017
463
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People on a pirate site complaining about deadlines and moral standards. What ... a ... joke.
You can't even imagine how many people here are supporting development. The community in this website is categorized in 2 halves. The one are people who are actively supporting development and the other one are leechers. I'm personally supporting 13 projects overall on patreon, fanbox and fantia. The only joke is your mentality here.
 
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You can't even imagine how many people here are supporting development. The community in this website is categorized in 2 halves. The one are people who are actively supporting development and the other one are leechers. I'm personally supporting 13 projects overall on patreon, fanbox and fantia. The only joke is your mentality here.
I'm willing to bet one of those "halves" is a hell of a lot bigger than the other. I'm sure you're a good patron who pledges and doesn't pirate. I'm betting that there are 20 people who don't pledge to anyone at all for every one of you.
 

Orichan

Member
Sep 6, 2017
300
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You and the others made a financial decision - that isn't my fault, nor am I criticizing you for it - you're free to do whatever you want with your own money. Donating to someone on Patreon is just that, a donation - there isn't a guarantee of anything in return.
When you donate, you expect to make the life of the creator easier so he keeps on making stuff. This is why Patreons Goals exist, to make it clear.
Here the creator lied to its donors in order to keep on receiving those juicy donations. He could, from the beginning, say that he wanted to take a big break and that if people would still feel like supporting him during it he would be very glad of it.
But when you read things like "You should be blessed if he answers to you" from his own discord rules, you could predict from the beginning what kind of person he is.
 
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