pletoxxx

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The creators ARE the issue. They can easily take shortcuts, like rendering with a proper lighting setup with no background and a static camera. Or stop rendering their disgusting robot animations since they add nothing to the game. If you can get off to these, you must be an extremely horny guy.

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yet, here you are.

if you hate the stuff, move on. its the best way to show your concern to dev. not eating their stuff.

but no, you cant resist the urge to download it and playing it and then complains.

cycle continues.

and you still find the time to bash on other opinions, while slipping attack on individual taste.. haha.

i dont like or hate ICSTOR, man gotta do what men gotta do. money making stuff.
 

Elinan

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It's not that strange that animations haven't been released yet. They take the longest to produce after all...especially if he has started working on them early October ~~(probly, who knows maybe even at the time of 0.6 release to buy himself more time) I can imagine this is what is happening right now. No matter what dev does, he can't expedite rendering process over the limit.
It is, since he said several times long time ago that animations were done and the progress bar was 100% and testing complete. But we know he lied.
 
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ElmerFudd

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Okay. I will go easy on you since you have some memory issues. You should go to the hospital asap if you are young. This is serious.

First of all, i did not start replying to your posts, you did. Wanna proof? Here goes.
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And at this post, i was trying to tell that how disappointed i was with ICSTOR because of delays. Do you really think that Icstor is worse than Gumdrop?
Eventhough you were rude againts me , i tried to reply you as kind as possible but still we can't change a keyboard guy like you.

So, I am licking ICSTOR's ass, huh? Let's see..

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Ok ok. You didn't believe me. Then let's post one old meme from me which trolls ICSTOR.

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Yeah, i am quite a licker, huh? Oh by the way, there is a interesting detail here! Let's see who liked my post!

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Enjoy!
OOhhh Burn!

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Can someone contact the very trustful Discord sources..... And confirm the update date....
I don't know who was that "trustful" source but after chatting with few of his patreon and discord staff, there is no news from ICSTOR yet, but my best guess is don't expect the update before this weekend since i don't remember him/her releasing an update mid week.
 
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fffffffffffk

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yet, here you are.

if you hate the stuff, move on. its the best way to show your concern to dev. not eating their stuff.

but no, you cant resist the urge to download it and playing it and then complains.

cycle continues.

and you still find the time to bash on other opinions, while slipping attack on individual taste.. haha.

i dont like or hate ICSTOR, man gotta do what men gotta do. money making stuff.
I called the animations hot garbage, not the game itself. They don't teach reading comprehension in Edgelordland?
 

yltohawk

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Well if your (reliable discord source) is to be believed then that means ICSTOR has fallen back to his old habits of getting bored and rushing the ending. And the quickest way would be to just not animate. BUT WHO IS THIS PERSON... I can't accept that on it's face without some proof.
 

Q Who

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Indie game creators ARE NOT the issue, the issue IS the technology stack. DAZ and other rendering engines require too much hard work to produce a few renders. Making like 100+ renders is too much of a daunting task. So game creators end up being burned out (icstor, lewdlab, saddog). It will remain like that until there is a better technology to make games (deep fakes?)
Nope. It is the system set up by Patreon. Developers have noticed there are no consequences to reduced or little production. If you average just 10 renders a day. In 2 months you have 540 renders. That is not a lot per day even with DAZ unless you are using a toaster. Most jobs are hard and not done for fun. I was lucky to love my photography job. But the cry me a river about how hard doing renders are. When they are using stock assets. Stock poses and animations. And use Reply or other software. The job is not something everyone can do but it is a stay at home, do anywhere job. BTW HS does not have render times and those developers have had large gaps too. It is the indie game producers being lazy and the lack of accountability of supporters. Real game production is hard work. Making these games is work but not hard by any real standard. Icstor worked for 4 years, a whole 4 years. When the average adult is expected to work for over 4 decades during their lifetime. It is comical to consider 4 years as a long career. Yeah, it is the indie developers.
 

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The creators ARE the issue. They can easily take shortcuts, like rendering with a proper lighting setup with no background and a static camera. Or stop rendering their disgusting robot animations since they add nothing to the game. If you can get off to these, you must be an extremely horny guy.

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Man, I feel the same way. I responded the same way to his post. I have always said these animations are a waste. I would much rather have a dozen or more renders than a 1-second awkward loop.

Since it is porn and fetish porn at that. There seems to be a disconnect between what a consumer would normally expect. Where else can you go months or even years without producing work and still gain financially? The developers have learned there is no incentive to work hard.

One other thing is this. Most of these developers are not doing it as a full-time job. I get those developers being a little flakey since we all have real lives and things happen. If it is not your real job you are just doing it for some extra cash or out of a passion for the form.

For full-time developers who are well paid. there is no real excuse. Having a downtime? Make fewer profits and hire people to pick up the slack.
 

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Nope. It is the system set up by Patreon. Developers have noticed there are no consequences to reduced or little production. If you average just 10 renders a day. In 2 months you have 540 renders. That is not a lot per day even with DAZ unless you are using a toaster. Most jobs are hard and not done for fun. I was lucky to love my photography job. But the cry me a river about how hard doing renders are. When they are using stock assets. Stock poses and animations. And use Reply or other software. The job is not something everyone can do but it is a stay at home, do anywhere job. BTW HS does not have render times and those developers have had large gaps too. It is the indie game producers being lazy and the lack of accountability of supporters. Real game production is hard work. Making these games is work but not hard by any real standard. Icstor worked for 4 years, a whole 4 years. When the average adult is expected to work for over 4 decades during their lifetime. It is comical to consider 4 years as a long career. Yeah, it is the indie developers.
//remark: This answer or the content of the answers is not adressed to ICSTOR or the game itself alone - it's in general about the entire patreon/community.
Yeah. I wouldn't call it burn-out or stress. It's just bad management and understanding the overhead of each decision and corresponding workload that leads to those issues.

- I see a clear lack of a broader horizon for - what is the base game - what is additional content
- I see bad workflows and resource management, time management.
- I see a clear lack of communication to the community. The community is asking for feature after feature. There is a need to forward to the community what the priorities are and what is extra content / content that can be added later.
- Accountability is another issue that goes with understanding your own goals for your project and progress tracking...

How did you reach your conclusion about 10 images a day? Does that include mapping, frames, etc. or just 'rendering'?
Renders: I've noticed in various games that has any usage of rendered-graphics that most of them are incidental, almost like everyone is using default settings or a horrible youtube guide for settings but without clear understanding why / in what situation u should use those settings.
Most of the images should't render longer than 8 - 30 (if scene) minutes on 7th GEN Intel or Ryzen 2nd/3rd. While using farm not longer as 30 seconds.
 
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buhbert

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i know everybody has the right to voice their opinion. i can't understand why people are that angry.
Milf City is no question one of the best Adult-Games here and im very glad that it gets updated with new content.

i can't speak for everyone but a real patreon supporter would just stop supporting until he feels like it again and
not like some people here nonstop hating on the Creator. im looking forward to the future and no-loop animations.
ive played a few games that don't use loops and the presentation of the sex-scenes is absolutely stunning cuz they feel more organic than just loops.

For ICSTOR i have just one advice. For your next Update its nice to have a progression bar but add maybe something like
*it takes how long it takes not to it (other devs do it too)

Nobody is forced to Support but mostly people who don't scream the loudest and are offended
even if they consuming it for free.

my grammatics are terribad and probably nobody gives a flying f*ck about my opinion but nonetheless
have a good day people :) i have a feeling this game gets even better.
 
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