Muevsirk

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So, you are a trained psychologist\psychiatrist\psychotherapist, any of those? Years and years of therapy make you a patient who has had years and years of therapy. Nothing more and nothing less. Not a trained psychotherapist. Even trained psychotherapists would never make a diagnosis based on a few lines of text over the internet. At this point, you are insulting people's intelligence with your personal projections. I have had therapy myself, which gives me some insight. I have no embarrassment for seeking such help or speaking about it. But I know full well there are a multitude of questions and personal information necessary for ANY competent diagnosis. Your anecdotal experience is exactly that, personal anecdotal experiences and nothing more. At least I put a qualifier in my earlier statement about my not believing him.
first off, psycotherapist is not a protected title, so literally anyone can just say they are. I've been to 26 therapists and psycologists throughout the years, and from them you hear that you are not alone all the time through stories they tell you to help you understand that about people. That said, you are correct. I only assume he is depressed because alot of what he says hits me home. So you won this argument, argument over.
That said, what i guess triggered me is that since these things hit so home for me, and people saying that you cant get depressed when you have all the moneyz xd in the world triggers me, because it's nothign more hurtfull then having a mental illness and people not believing you, because its not a physical thing that they can see at a first glance. What i'm conserned over is the amount of people saying that he's lying about mental illness to push the project further and make more money. If this IS indeed the truth, thats VERY fucking sad. IF however, he DOES suffer from a mental illness, he might struggle to get that information out there for his paetrons, because that would just be "another failure" to him. What i wished that he did if he struggled from this project or struggled to get to work in the morning because of a mental illness, was to just put the project on hold and/or set it as a "pay per release" deal i know some paetrons do. Keep in mind that this is all "if" he's not faking his illness. If indeed he WAS faking a illness, i really hope he does get that illness, gets treated from it and learns thats not ok.
 

Trapezio

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first off, psycotherapist is not a protected title, so literally anyone can just say they are. I've been to 26 therapists and psycologists throughout the years, and from them you hear that you are not alone all the time through stories they tell you to help you understand that about people. That said, you are correct. I only assume he is depressed because alot of what he says hits me home. So you won this argument, argument over.
That said, what i guess triggered me is that since these things hit so home for me, and people saying that you cant get depressed when you have all the moneyz xd in the world triggers me, because it's nothign more hurtfull then having a mental illness and people not believing you, because its not a physical thing that they can see at a first glance. What i'm conserned over is the amount of people saying that he's lying about mental illness to push the project further and make more money. If this IS indeed the truth, thats VERY fucking sad. IF however, he DOES suffer from a mental illness, he might struggle to get that information out there for his paetrons, because that would just be "another failure" to him. What i wished that he did if he struggled from this project or struggled to get to work in the morning because of a mental illness, was to just put the project on hold and/or set it as a "pay per release" deal i know some paetrons do. Keep in mind that this is all "if" he's not faking his illness. If indeed he WAS faking a illness, i really hope he does get that illness, gets treated from it and learns thats not ok.
Listen, I couldn't care less about the fact the Dude told us he's mentally ill.

I simply don't believe a single word coming from him. N-O-T A S-I-N-G-L-E W-O-R-D.

He could tell anything. He could tell an alien abducted him and took him on Saturn. He could tell his granny was hit by a bus while crossing the road. He could tell a burglar stole his PC. He could tell his dog took his HD and buried it somewhere in his 10000 acres garden. That's all the same to me: a busload of crap.
 

Muevsirk

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Listen, I couldn't care less about the fact the Dude told us he's mentally ill.

I simply don't believe a single word coming from him. N-O-T A S-I-N-G-L-E W-O-R-D.

He could tell anything. He could tell an alien abducted him and took him on Saturn. He could tell his granny was hit by a bus while crossing the road. He could tell a burglar stole his PC. He could tell his dog took his HD and buried it somewhere in his 10000 acres garden. That's all the same to me: a busload of crap.
sure, he could also tell you he was scamming you and following your logic, you would not believe him. he could say the earth is round or that gravity exsists. but you've already made up your mind, and nothing can sway you to the other side again
 
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NaughtyDeveloper

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So what does ICSTOR's latest post say? Another delay? Or another reason for delay? Or a release (which I highly doubt is possible) ?
 

hentaifelf

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sure, he could also tell you he was scamming you and following your logic, you would not believe him. he could say the earth is round or that gravity exsists. but you've already made up your mind, and nothing can sway you to the other side again
you remind me of a person who acts before thinking, and also reminding me of a person who wants to be right no matter what. What you just said is facts that are proven, which is completely unrelated to the subject at hand. The general meaning of what trrapezio said was that Icstor keeps lying, and is known to be a man of deceit. As long as his statements can't be proven, nobody is going to believe him anymore. classic boy who cried wolf.
 
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I really really don't understand all the bs in this thread... so many people crying. Imo if you don't believe the guy or think he's a crook don't give him any money. If your not giving him any money then you have nothing to worry about your just playing a free game. Pretty simple concept imo.
 

19o8

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So why have global temperatures fallen almost a degree since the start of the Industrial Revolution? So why have hurricanes and tornadoes become less intense? Why are droughts and monsoons shorter? Why is the Sahara greening? Why has sea level not risen more slowly in the last 13,000 years? Why have ice caps and glaciers been cyclically melting and growing (on a ~150 year cycle) since records began (we have both Roman and Early Middle Ages records of the Alps being snow-free). Fuck you, science denier. Delusional communist psychopaths like you are why it's embarrassing to be an actual environmentalist these days.

Why must only the West (read: white nations) give up their technologies and industries to "combat" your problem? Why are India, Africa, and China allowed to pollute the world without a single sanction or complaint? We know why. Your own organizations admit there are no climactic effects actually happening, and that the sole purpose of the claims is to globally redistribute wealth. Piss the fuck off.
dude wtf are u stupid or uneducated?
 
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Bud, adult games are a rising but very small and undetermined field. What may seem to you as us crying is actually concern about where the industry will be headed from here. Especially when its the top dog that is trying some scummy moves.

Imagine the CEO at your place of work comes out as a crook and lies to cover it up. Think about how the image of the company may change to the public. Were all here because we want adult games to go mainstream and increase in quality.

But that wont happen if creators think they can get away with this kind of shit.
but there are adult games where the creators aren't being crooks. (If that's what you believe) so why not just support those people instead?
 

DiddlerGames

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Bud, adult games are a rising but very small and undetermined field. What may seem to you as us crying is actually concern about where the industry will be headed from here. Especially when its the top dog that is trying some scummy moves.

Imagine the CEO at your place of work comes out as a crook and lies to cover it up. Think about how the image of the company may change to the public. Were all here because we want adult games to go mainstream and increase in quality.

But that wont happen if creators think they can get away with this kind of shit.
YEAH! Give your money to someone who deserves it, Like me, v0.2 of my game will be coming out soon, working on re renders now. Seriously, I think the industry is "fine" and self regulating, but the issue I see is the amount of "meh" games. The visuals/renders can be top tier, but there is nothing more to them really. That's my issue. Why should anyone try to be better than someone like Icstor given how much money he makes.
 

hentaifelf

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i guess I'll start it off then,

uhhhh so i actually never downloaded v06 because of the animation thing, so when 07 comes out, and if it does (with animations ofc), i'd be in for a super duper update. If this game doesn't turn out for the best, no problem, I'm fine with other games you know. I got pornhub, doujinshi, and other adult stuff so it should fine. Still, I would be really happy if he was telling the truth and we get exciting more content.
 
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Aristos

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The moment ICSTOR gets away with this what do you think thats gonna make all those other non crook creators want to do?
This sums up the main reason for all the criticism, sarcasm and memes that have been poured into this thread during the past 6 months +-. This is the reason why all those simpletons who come here claiming that if you don't support him you are not entitled to complain should shut the fuck up and use their brain cells for the first time in the day.
What a good example this sets for other devs, for fucks sake.

On a different note, I do believe Icstor when he says he's got mental issues; if I didn't, that would mean that he's not only a terrible professional but also an awful person. So I do believe him, I don't wanna think that someone would play with other people's emotions just like that.
However, I also believe that is no excuse for his constant lying. He is a LIAR. A liar with probable psychological issues that have nothing to do with his lying. Actually, in his message he stated that constant criticism started taking its toll on his health and was one of the mains reasons of his problems. Hold on a second, when you were making the most popular game on this site and putting out updates no one criticized you. All the complaining started AFTER you took those holidays (allegedly to recover form your issues) and especially after the constant delays. WTF are you talking about criticism leading to those mental problems when it actually started after those problems had already shown up (according to yourself)?

I hope he follows his treatment (hopefully he's not self-medicating) and gets better. I wouldn't wish a mental disease to anyone, not even my worst enemy if I had one. But BRING OUT THE FUCKING ANIMATIONS NOW, MAN. If you don't feel you have the energy to go on be honest, pause your fucking Patreon, say goodbye to those hundreds of thousands of $ a year and focus on your health. But don't lie any more. Anything else is a dog and pony show (I just learn that expression not long ago, I hope I'm using it correctly :ROFLMAO:).

Anyway, I'm still just waiting for the animations to drop, to finally have sex with Caroline and get some closure. Then I can kick this game in the butt and move on to the much more rewarding ones that can be found on this forum. I know that I must have said this 3 o 4 times by now but sadly the situation remains the same as months ago.
 
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Klaigh

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Y'all are gonna get in website trouble, arguing about climate, and government, and Earth. Let's go back to whining about the update frequency and how Icstor isn't really mentally ill.
 
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