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Then your not a regular person. Sorry you had to go through this but thats like saying I recovered from the flu in 4 weeks. So everyone else must also recover from the flu in 4 weeks. When I say a regular person I mean the average person not you.

Classic Straw Man Fallacy.
the average person is NOT depressed. they are at most sad.
 

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yeah no he's depressed
I don't want to get into a pissing match with you. But you know absolutely nothing about Icstor. He is a faceless person on the internet who lies through his teeth on a regular basis. I also have bouts of depression from my physical ailments. But I don't lie because that would only depress me more. By being a bad person who lies. If you think anything justifies deception, you are sadly mistaken. And you won't find any research in psychology that states deception is a good therapeutic avenue.

If he is so depressed, he can shut down his Patreon. But he even lied about that in May or June. His lies are equal to theft if he knows he will not produce work.
 

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are you fucking serious? wealth does NOT cure and/or make you immune to depression. Often, wealth can be a cause of depression, because you can now afford whatever you want, so you have nothing to work towards
Why don't you study psychology? Studies show that poverty leads to depression far more often than wealth. This is a ridiculous statement and you are being an apologist spewing fake news. I can't believe I said fake news, but "often", why don't you link a study showing the wealth "often" leads to depression.
 

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You call him out for a straw man (that's not what he did, btw - he provided a concrete example, not a misrepresentation of your position), yet you redefine your terms. Come on, man.
But the point about anecdotal evidence being a bad yardstick is accurate, TBH. It is not really a concrete example. It is a personal experience that he used to paint a broad brush interpretation.
 

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Okay again if you read the original post you would understand that I literally said "the average person whos depressed". Please at least read the post your going to call out before writing me message.
as you said in your original statement, "the average person who's depressed" is just wrong. The average depressed person is not a known metric, but being IN that enviorment i garantee you that the amount of work done by depressed people are MUCH less then you imagine. taking one or two years off or even more if you're diagnosed with dystemia will often get you into a social security net because you literally CAN NOT get back on your feet.
 

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But the point about anecdotal evidence being a bad yardstick is accurate, TBH. It is not really a concrete example. It is a personal experience that he used to paint a broad brush interpretation.
im drawing my conclusions from years and years and years of therapy and being in an enviorment where we talk to SOOOO many depressed people.
 

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im drawing my conclusions from years and years and years of therapy and being in an enviorment where we talk to SOOOO many depressed people.
So, you are a trained psychologist\psychiatrist\psychotherapist, any of those? Years and years of therapy make you a patient who has had years and years of therapy. Nothing more and nothing less. Not a trained psychotherapist. Even trained psychotherapists would never make a diagnosis based on a few lines of text over the internet. At this point, you are insulting people's intelligence with your personal projections. I have had therapy myself, which gives me some insight. I have no embarrassment for seeking such help or speaking about it. But I know full well there are a multitude of questions and personal information necessary for ANY competent diagnosis. Your anecdotal experience is exactly that, personal anecdotal experiences and nothing more. At least I put a qualifier in my earlier statement about my not believing him.
 

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So, you are a trained psychologist\psychiatrist\psychotherapist, any of those? Years and years of therapy make you a patient who has had years and years of therapy. Nothing more and nothing less. Not a trained psychotherapist. Even trained psychotherapists would never make a diagnosis based on a few lines of text over the internet. At this point, you are insulting people's intelligence with your personal projections. I have had therapy myself, which gives me some insight. I have no embarrassment for seeking such help or speaking about it. But I know full well there are a multitude of questions and personal information necessary for ANY competent diagnosis. Your anecdotal experience is exactly that, personal anecdotal experiences and nothing more. At least I put a qualifier in my earlier statement about my not believing him.
All the dude said is that money alone doesnt make for happiness. and hes right. Why continue like he personally attacked u. Plently happy poor ppl and rich ppl. Happiness is more a habit and perspective on life not material wealth per se.
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I like that Putin laid it on the line concerning her being used as a frontman\poppet for climate change activists. Climate change is real 100%(man made), but her yelling and attempts and guilt shaming is reprehensible IMHO. She was used because if you attack her you get accused of attacking a child. I just care about the facts, not emotions.

I think that perhaps this thread needs to be shut down for some time.
She was also nominated for the Nobel peace prize. :FacePalm:
 
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All the dude said is that money alone doesnt make for happiness. and hes right. Why continue like he personally attacked u. Plently happy poor ppl and rich ppl. Happiness is more a habit and perspective on life not material wealth per se.
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He just claimed that his years of therapy and personal conversations make him an expert in depression. Not the strawman you just erected. It helps when you read the posts and no one attacked anyone. He just was called out for his BS diagnosis. And no, that is not at all what he said. Point out what I said in my post that was inaccurate, please. He said being wealthy "often" leads to depression. Or did you just miss that part?
 
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