Yurdead

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I feel bad for everyone pledging for months and getting nothing (at least not the things promised) back.
 

Majima@22

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How in the actual fuck Does Icstor think that he's going to finish the game with only two updates In my opinion this game have some problems and a And a lot of content to be added For example, did he forgot about the The twin Side characters or The Neighbors or any of the side characters

let me go off topic here for a minute how the fuck is the Twins and the neighbors not side characters because in my opinion they are side characters

Okay. Now let's go back to the topic How in the fuck am I supposed to believe that Icstor Is going to update all of that in only two updates And one of the updates is going to be smaller than the other I am very concerned to the future of this game imo this game needs 4 or 5 updates At least to cover all the characters and side characters
 
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Evangelion-01

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How in the actual fuck Does John think that he's going to finish the game with only two updates In my opinion this game have some problems and a And a lot of content to be added For example, did he forgot about the The twin Side characters or The Neighbors or any of the side characters

let me go off topic here for a minute how the fuck is the Twins and the neighbors not side characters because in my opinion they are side characters

Okay. Now let's go back to the topic How in the fuck am I supposed to believe that Jessica Is going to update all of that in only two updates And one of the updates is going to be smaller than the other I am very concerned to the future of this game imo this game needs 4 or 5 updates At least to cover all the characters and side characters
If he intended to keep the quality for these releases as he started indeed... but it's likely we'll get several non animated scenes for each character that ends with a single sex scene and call it concluded.. the Twins story is already finished as they either got ruined by their loans and your betrayel or got filthy rich and are about to bail.
but 100% coding and scripting does not consume 70% of a game.
again Icstor lies.
he was just milking all the time without doing any work.
Noone can tell for sure... it might have been 70%... maybe he actually already finished 20%+ of his renders (unlikely) he will never admit any of this
 

h4xoor

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The saddest part is, for me at least - he reached his pateon goal long ago, what promised full animations for all the scenes eventually. I was like, man it will be awesome to replay the game when its done, with complete HQ animations. But he almost reached his final goal aswell, and then decided to ditch everything. What a shame, im glad i only was a patron for a month every time he actually released an update.
 
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Majima@22

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the Twins story is already finished as they either got ruined by their loans and your betrayel or got filthy rich and are about to bail.
hat's why I think they are side characters because they have a short story line And they don't affect the main story that much.
 

wowaser

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Why dont anyone just buy or take this project and continue the storyline. Make it better and develop with more passion?
Good idea?
Pls. make me know
 
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Aristos

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I'm stilll laughing since I read his post a while ago. Oh boy, that's some nerve.
He literally admitted not having worked at all for at least the past 4 months.

I only feel bad for the people that kept paying him even after the false promises :(
I feel bad for everyone pledging for months and getting nothing (at least not the things promised) back.
Those are actually the only people I don't feel sorry for. Not in the least.
Indeed, it just took him a crappy message full of lies and brazenness to gain 100 brain-dead new supporters today.
Those are the people responsible for this. The enablers. The goddamn, ridiculous enablers of his behaviour.
 

Evangelion-01

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Why dont anyone just buy or take this project and continue the storyline. Make it better and develop with more passion?
Good idea?
Pls. make me know
Because ICStor is not selling... he'd rather give a story a shitty ending than leave a project "incomplete"
 
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Evangelion-01

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Find new Artists and continue? :D
At this point it's a struggle of keeping clear from ICStor's bllinded apostles and actually generating any interest in this dead project though... the best time for this would have been in the wait between 0.5 and 0.6
 

wowaser

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seens like ICStor is not that clever.... i would sell it, if i would have any problems with this game, to get some cash for new Project and it wont be more my Problem.
 

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CAPTAIN'S LOG, DAY 2354525

A GRIM POST-MORTEM ANALYSIS


(Gimme that TL:DR mod, do it...DO IT! JUST DO IT!)

Well...Well...Well...

So it has finally come to pass, as foretold in the ancient Prophecies of Q Who, ICSTOR has once again bailed out on a project.

The crew are baffled, the whole Quadrant in hysterics as buildings are burned to the ground, Godzilla is reaching the generators and the mods are sweating as they prepare to try qwelling the inevitable shit storm, all asking...Why? OH WHY?!

...And... how?


How did the Top 3D Developer, the undisputed king at one time had you asked anyone,
fallen so spectacularly from grace?

With THAT much money, public support (at the time) and resources, it seemed like a sure thing, like a bank 'too big to fail!'

Well...We all know how THAT ended...


Let's go back a little...Because when you get down to the meat of the matter, the writing was on the wall from day 1.


ICSTOR has been around for a fair while now, to the point he was one of the first 'new wave' adult devs out there with his first couple games, MILF's Control, Incest story 1 & 2 and finally Milf's Villa, his last game before he ventured onto Milfy City.


Each one following similar pattern as the next, with each game, both technically and graphically at least, getting enhanced each time and thus slowly, amassing more Patrons.


However, each one also followed a very similar worrying pattern of development, ICSTOR would reach around over the V0.5 halfway point and progress would seemingly begin to grind to a halt. Notoriously, these projects all fell to the same fate where they were 'rushed' to give a patched out resolution to each one, Incest story 2 and Milf Villa possibly being the worst offender.

ICSTOR would then immediately start up a 'new' exciting project to switch people over to (near enough the same day as closing down the previous game), with a much higher quality than the last incarnation.

This distraction largely proved to work as the new games were always 'better.' And thus with a manageable patron count (and lower expectations at the time), people transitioned over with relative ease.

Then came Milfy City, his magnum opus that propelled him to the top billing.

However, this is where the problems really began. This sudden burst of extreme popularity led to something ICSTOR didn't particularly experience with the other projects, something his cycle of starting and restarting did not anticipate...

Expectations.

It's no doubt, that this game more than any of his others has received much closer scrutiny and expectations than any of his other previous works. The usual trick of just 'bailing' out earlier would not be met with such a brushed under the rug approach.
People were actually 'invested' now, and the financial earnings of the game only further heightened the demand to see 'something' for all this cash being earned.

As learned before though, cash flow does not always equal productivity, as very much shown in this case.

So, once ICSTOR reached the usual cycle peak point of burn-out, what was he to do?

Well...Nothing.

It's no doubt in my mind ICSTOR (doing the barest of bare minimum work at best) has probably been struggling with this 'dilemma' for months.

"Now I'm burned out, how do I now cancel THIS game with so much attention on it, and walk out unscathed?"

The answer is simple.
He can't.
And he knows he can't, so he's fucked.


ICSTOR's development past V0.5 of every game...


Then there's the lies...

It's pretty much a proven at this point ICSTOR's lied, or at the very least heavily distorted the truth.
How much work was really done? We'll never know, but from the 'unannounced' breaks to the inevitable death of this project now in a zombie like state as it limps it's way to the grave, it's clear he hopes to restart the cycle once again.

Let's compare ICSTOR to another Dev, Slonique, Slonique became notorious for rushing or abandoning games frequently, (and was loathed for it), while ICSTOR managed to come out literally king of the hill for a while, even though he displayed the same behavior.

Why?

Well, simply put ICSTOR, unlike Slonique who kept his production levels pretty much at the same level, always visually delivered something better looking.

Thus, even though the behavior was obvious beneath the surface,
the new coat paint of this development cycle blind-sided people into supporting him and over-looking these faults.


It's no doubt that ICSTOR's next game will be visually stunning, but,
I can't help think he won't be able to shake off the criticism surround this game quite so easily,
and perhaps that's for the best.

...


So, is there any lessons to learn from this trainwreck?

Perhaps for Patrons, the lesson is to observe and watch a Dev's pattern of behavior closely, it's very easy to 'fall in love' with a game and forget that the development behind it may not be so innocent and squeaky clean as you like.

To perhaps be weary, that a 'talented' dev does not mean that translates to a Developer determined to see a project through.

Sadly though, I do wonder if many honest devs are now going to have to deal harsher questioning and perhaps unfair scrutiny thanks to ICSTOR's behavior, who has helped contribute to a minority of Devs with less than professional etiquette or outright predatory behavior.

This is your Captain,
putting some flowers on the grave.

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Fantastic analysis. I'm in awe Captain.

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I heard your final analysis on Dual Family is available too?
 
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