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- Jan 28, 2018
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- May 3, 2018
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Wait, just a second I just literally woke up 10 minutes ago and I'm confused What exactly is going to happen with Milfy City I really hope it's nothing bad because I really love this game.
- Jul 3, 2017
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Why? They'll continue to support and white-knight for him. They deserve this.I only feel bad for the people that kept paying him even after the false promises
- May 3, 2018
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I'm confused What exactly is going to happen with Milfy City I really hope it's nothing bad because I really love this game.
- Mar 13, 2019
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I'm surprised that Icstor has 6000 patrons, I know he lost 1000 patrons but still that's a shit ton of money while he's doing absolutely nothing. Btw I know he had health issues and I respect that but that's one thing and the other is lying to us about release dates and releasing a patch with no animations. That is a low blow and after that he will just rush the release while thousands of patrons want the game to be complete is just a dick move and he does not deserve such money if he does that.
I believed in him even after when he lied about the first release date and the other, I thought "Hey, he had issues I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since I don't know how to handle a situation like that", but after he said there wasn't going to be any animations I knew I can't trust him as much as I trusted him before. also he's status bar hasn't changed in 3 months, which begs the question why doesn't he keep on working on the game even if he doesn't have an passion to it. If I'm getting payed that much money I have to deliver since I would feel guilty and penitently also get sued for not delivering and lying. Well let's just hope he doesn't give an absolutely terrible ending, because that will certainly make him untrusted to all of his patrons.
I believed in him even after when he lied about the first release date and the other, I thought "Hey, he had issues I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since I don't know how to handle a situation like that", but after he said there wasn't going to be any animations I knew I can't trust him as much as I trusted him before. also he's status bar hasn't changed in 3 months, which begs the question why doesn't he keep on working on the game even if he doesn't have an passion to it. If I'm getting payed that much money I have to deliver since I would feel guilty and penitently also get sued for not delivering and lying. Well let's just hope he doesn't give an absolutely terrible ending, because that will certainly make him untrusted to all of his patrons.
- Mar 31, 2020
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Dude giving you a facepalm is waste of facepalm imo.
- May 3, 2018
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Last two updates Okay but I still don't understand What's the drama
- Apr 27, 2017
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CAPTAIN'S LOG, DAY 2354525
A GRIM POST-MORTEM ANALYSIS
(Gimme that TLR mod, do it...DO IT! JUST DO IT!)
Well...Well...Well...
So it has finally come to pass, as foretold in the ancient Prophecies of Q Who, ICSTOR has once again bailed out on a project.
The crew are baffled, the whole Quadrant in hysterics as buildings are burned to the ground, Godzilla is reaching the generators and the mods are sweating as they prepare to try qwelling the inevitable shit storm, all asking...Why? OH WHY?!
...And... how?
How did the Top 3D Developer, the undisputed king at one time had you asked anyone,
fallen so spectacularly from grace?
With THAT much money, public support (at the time) and resources, it seemed like a sure thing, like a bank 'too big to fail!'
Well...We all know how THAT ended...
Let's go back a little...Because when you get down to the meat of the matter, the writing was on the wall from day 1.
ICSTOR has been around for a fair while now, to the point he was one of the first 'new wave' adult devs out there with his first couple games, MILF's Control, Incest story 1 & 2 and finally Milf's Villa, his last game before he ventured onto Milfy City.
Each one following similar pattern as the next, with each game, both technically and graphically at least, getting enhanced each time and thus slowly, amassing more Patrons.
However, each one also followed a very similar worrying pattern of development, ICSTOR would reach around over the V0.5 halfway point and progress would seemingly begin to grind to a halt. Notoriously, these projects all fell to the same fate where they were 'rushed' to give a patched out resolution to each one, Incest story 2 and Milf Villa possibly being the worst offender.
ICSTOR would then immediately start up a 'new' exciting project to switch people over to (near enough the same day as closing down the previous game), with a much higher quality than the last incarnation.
This distraction largely proved to work as the new games were always 'better.' And thus with a manageable patron count (and lower expectations at the time), people transitioned over with relative ease.
Then came Milfy City, his magnum opus that propelled him to the top billing.
However, this is where the problems really began. This sudden burst of extreme popularity led to something ICSTOR didn't particularly experience with the other projects, something his cycle of starting and restarting did not anticipate...
Expectations.
It's no doubt, that this game more than any of his others has received much closer scrutiny and expectations than any of his other previous works. The usual trick of just 'bailing' out earlier would not be met with such a brushed under the rug approach.
People were actually 'invested' now, and the financial earnings of the game only further heightened the demand to see 'something' for all this cash being earned.
As learned before though, cash flow does not always equal productivity, as very much shown in this case.
So, once ICSTOR reached the usual cycle peak point of burn-out, what was he to do?
Well...Nothing.
It's no doubt in my mind ICSTOR (doing the barest of bare minimum work at best) has probably been struggling with this 'dilemma' for months.
"Now I'm burned out, how do I now cancel THIS game with so much attention on it, and walk out unscathed?"
The answer is simple.
He can't.
And he knows he can't, so he's fucked.
ICSTOR's development past V0.5 of every game...
Then there's the lies...
It's pretty much a proven at this point ICSTOR's lied, or at the very least heavily distorted the truth.
How much work was really done? We'll never know, but from the 'unannounced' breaks to the inevitable death of this project now in a zombie like state as it limps it's way to the grave, it's clear he hopes to restart the cycle once again.
Let's compare ICSTOR to another Dev, Slonique, Slonique became notorious for rushing or abandoning games frequently, (and was loathed for it), while ICSTOR managed to come out literally king of the hill for a while, even though he displayed the same behavior.
Why?
Well, simply put ICSTOR, unlike Slonique who kept his production levels pretty much at the same level, always visually delivered something better looking.
Thus, even though the behavior was obvious beneath the surface,
the new coat paint of this development cycle blind-sided people into supporting him and over-looking these faults.
It's no doubt that ICSTOR's next game will be visually stunning, but,
I can't help think he won't be able to shake off the criticism surround this game quite so easily,
and perhaps that's for the best.
...
So, is there any lessons to learn from this trainwreck?
Perhaps for Patrons, the lesson is to observe and watch a Dev's pattern of behavior closely, it's very easy to 'fall in love' with a game and forget that the development behind it may not be so innocent and squeaky clean as you like.
To perhaps be weary, that a 'talented' dev does not mean that translates to a Developer determined to see a project through.
Sadly though, I do wonder if many honest devs are now going to have to deal harsher questioning and perhaps unfair scrutiny thanks to ICSTOR's behavior, who has helped contribute to a minority of Devs with less than professional etiquette or outright predatory behavior.
This is your Captain,
putting some flowers on the grave.
A GRIM POST-MORTEM ANALYSIS
(Gimme that TL
R mod, do it...DO IT! JUST DO IT!)Well...Well...Well...
So it has finally come to pass, as foretold in the ancient Prophecies of Q Who, ICSTOR has once again bailed out on a project.
The crew are baffled, the whole Quadrant in hysterics as buildings are burned to the ground, Godzilla is reaching the generators and the mods are sweating as they prepare to try qwelling the inevitable shit storm, all asking...Why? OH WHY?!
...And... how?
How did the Top 3D Developer, the undisputed king at one time had you asked anyone,
fallen so spectacularly from grace?
With THAT much money, public support (at the time) and resources, it seemed like a sure thing, like a bank 'too big to fail!'
Well...We all know how THAT ended...
Let's go back a little...Because when you get down to the meat of the matter, the writing was on the wall from day 1.
ICSTOR has been around for a fair while now, to the point he was one of the first 'new wave' adult devs out there with his first couple games, MILF's Control, Incest story 1 & 2 and finally Milf's Villa, his last game before he ventured onto Milfy City.
Each one following similar pattern as the next, with each game, both technically and graphically at least, getting enhanced each time and thus slowly, amassing more Patrons.
However, each one also followed a very similar worrying pattern of development, ICSTOR would reach around over the V0.5 halfway point and progress would seemingly begin to grind to a halt. Notoriously, these projects all fell to the same fate where they were 'rushed' to give a patched out resolution to each one, Incest story 2 and Milf Villa possibly being the worst offender.
ICSTOR would then immediately start up a 'new' exciting project to switch people over to (near enough the same day as closing down the previous game), with a much higher quality than the last incarnation.
This distraction largely proved to work as the new games were always 'better.' And thus with a manageable patron count (and lower expectations at the time), people transitioned over with relative ease.
Then came Milfy City, his magnum opus that propelled him to the top billing.
However, this is where the problems really began. This sudden burst of extreme popularity led to something ICSTOR didn't particularly experience with the other projects, something his cycle of starting and restarting did not anticipate...
Expectations.
It's no doubt, that this game more than any of his others has received much closer scrutiny and expectations than any of his other previous works. The usual trick of just 'bailing' out earlier would not be met with such a brushed under the rug approach.
People were actually 'invested' now, and the financial earnings of the game only further heightened the demand to see 'something' for all this cash being earned.
As learned before though, cash flow does not always equal productivity, as very much shown in this case.
So, once ICSTOR reached the usual cycle peak point of burn-out, what was he to do?
Well...Nothing.
It's no doubt in my mind ICSTOR (doing the barest of bare minimum work at best) has probably been struggling with this 'dilemma' for months.
"Now I'm burned out, how do I now cancel THIS game with so much attention on it, and walk out unscathed?"
The answer is simple.
He can't.
And he knows he can't, so he's fucked.
ICSTOR's development past V0.5 of every game...
Then there's the lies...
It's pretty much a proven at this point ICSTOR's lied, or at the very least heavily distorted the truth.
How much work was really done? We'll never know, but from the 'unannounced' breaks to the inevitable death of this project now in a zombie like state as it limps it's way to the grave, it's clear he hopes to restart the cycle once again.
Let's compare ICSTOR to another Dev, Slonique, Slonique became notorious for rushing or abandoning games frequently, (and was loathed for it), while ICSTOR managed to come out literally king of the hill for a while, even though he displayed the same behavior.
Why?
Well, simply put ICSTOR, unlike Slonique who kept his production levels pretty much at the same level, always visually delivered something better looking.
Thus, even though the behavior was obvious beneath the surface,
the new coat paint of this development cycle blind-sided people into supporting him and over-looking these faults.
It's no doubt that ICSTOR's next game will be visually stunning, but,
I can't help think he won't be able to shake off the criticism surround this game quite so easily,
and perhaps that's for the best.
...
So, is there any lessons to learn from this trainwreck?
Perhaps for Patrons, the lesson is to observe and watch a Dev's pattern of behavior closely, it's very easy to 'fall in love' with a game and forget that the development behind it may not be so innocent and squeaky clean as you like.
To perhaps be weary, that a 'talented' dev does not mean that translates to a Developer determined to see a project through.
Sadly though, I do wonder if many honest devs are now going to have to deal harsher questioning and perhaps unfair scrutiny thanks to ICSTOR's behavior, who has helped contribute to a minority of Devs with less than professional etiquette or outright predatory behavior.
This is your Captain,
putting some flowers on the grave.
- Apr 23, 2017
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Icstor made a patreon post here. Key points are:
- He doesn't want to keep working on Milfy City.
- He wants to finish the game in two more big updates.
- These two updates will conclude all started story lines.
- Future games will be smaller scale and episodic (5 episodes max).
- Programmer is already working on new mechanics for a new game.
- New game will hopefully be released late this year.
Personally, I think it's ridiculous that he both wants to be done with the game but also conclude all storylines in 2 updates and apparently get that done in a way that allows him to release a first version of a new game this year as well. Dude's been 'working' (officially) on Sarah's update for 4 months now, but somehow he's gonna finish the storylines of all other characters in about 5 months? I wouldn't expect anything more than a slideshow for every character...
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- Aug 7, 2016
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Just a couple of corrections. He never says that the updates are going to be big and, in fact, said that the next one, for the trashgoblin and Linda, is going to be a small one, and also he straight up says that he lied about working in the game until now and he actually had done fuck all.
- May 3, 2018
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i just read Icstor post and i'm like what in the actual fuck He's just going to Rush the game like that. This is so bulshit
- Apr 23, 2017
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Nah man, he literally said he'll make two more big updates. The quote is:
What about Milfy City?
When it comes to Milfy City, I’m considering creating the last two BIG updates to Milfy City.
Yes he said 0.9 would be smaller, but only in relation to 1.0.
And about him admitting he hasn't been working, I'm not sure which part you mean.
Are you talking about the part where he said the programmer doesn't have anything to do until he creates renders? Because part of me thinks that sentence has to missing the word 'more' in front of renders. Like, even Icstor can't be crazy enough to tell people he hasn't done anything for four months while talking about the two BIG updates he is creating, can he?
To be clear, when I say he has been working on Sarah for 4 months I use the term 'worked' pretty loosely. My point is I have no reason to believe he'll be more productive all of a sudden. I'll put a little edit on my other post
- Apr 12, 2018
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I wouldn't be so sure about this... he pretty much says "fuck you all I am not doing this shit for you but for myself... and shit is not worth my time anymore"
He wants a break and probably slim down on his supporters in order to feel less pressured for his upcoming "games"
I'm cool with the short games as long as he finish it. I would prefer that than long projects that eventually gets abandon.
As for Milf City, it's whatever. Just a shame to see the models go to waste. I dunno how he is going to release a big update if he can't even finish the Sara update. I imagine the pacing is going to feel out of wack.
I'm not really asking for a story to be invested in, just sexy situations. I dunno how he could do that in with two big updates with all the remaining establish characters with the different paths. Given his speed, I doubt any update.
All this is making me curious of developing. I never tried it before. I'm going to research in the Daz models and coding. I wonder how long it'll take me to get it.
As for Milf City, it's whatever. Just a shame to see the models go to waste. I dunno how he is going to release a big update if he can't even finish the Sara update. I imagine the pacing is going to feel out of wack.
I'm not really asking for a story to be invested in, just sexy situations. I dunno how he could do that in with two big updates with all the remaining establish characters with the different paths. Given his speed, I doubt any update.
All this is making me curious of developing. I never tried it before. I'm going to research in the Daz models and coding. I wonder how long it'll take me to get it.
- Jan 8, 2018
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