Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[Atlan1000]

Personal attacks (such as "He is now nothing as a lying, lazy and greedy piece of scum") are against site rules. You shouldn't do that.

If he only milks people but does not provide anything in return and writes verbatim himself: "i want to work on whatever i want, instead of what others tell me so i dont get a burnout again", what would you call someone like that?
He is paid to finish THIS GAME properly and not to rock his balls and live out his personal fantasies until he loses interest!

 

[goobdoob]

If he only milks people but does not provide anything in return and writes verbatim himself: "i want to work on whatever i want, instead of what others tell me so i dont get a burnout again", what would you call someone like that?
He is paid to finish THIS GAME properly and not to rock his balls and live out his personal fantasies until he loses interest!

No, technically he's being paid to do whatever. He says he's working on Milfy City, but he doesn't have to "finish THIS GAME".

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What would I call him? An unprofessional jerk. I believe "lying, lazy and greedy piece of scum" violates rule #1 here: https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2020-02-08.5589/

 

[PinkGoddess]

atm the last thing you can do is to fuck with his mother till his dad finds out and leaves outraged, to get Caroline pregnant, to punish and rape the teacher, about Sara idk didn’t follow her storyline ^^

other characters: we still miss scenes with the lesbian blond model (I want to fuck her for god sake!), the therapist, the Harley Quinn girl, the two short haired siblings, the friend of Caroline = no sex and much content yet with those girls

How u can punish ur teacher? Idk how and Caroline is waiting for me in her shop for go to meet her ex bf but the mc dont want (he says that is so dangerous for her and blabla and idk what to do)

 

[cbgb]

do not ever patronize anyone N E V E R

 

[Winterfire]

do not ever patronize anyone N E V E R

Only ICSTOR

 

[Atlan1000]

No, technically he's being paid to do whatever. He says he's working on Milfy City, but he doesn't have to "finish THIS GAME".

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Oh please don't come with Wikipedia now to me!
Read the explanations on the Patreon website!

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Patreon powers membership businesses for creators by giving them the tools they need to acquire, manage, and energize their paying patrons. With a subscription-style payment model, fans pay their favorite creators a monthly amount of their choice in exchange for exclusive access, extra content, or a closer look into their creative journey.
This model is a win-win; creators retain creative freedom while getting the salary they deserve, and fans get to rest easy knowing that their money goes directly towards creating more of what they love."

This includes both contacting the Patreon and getting the Patreons satisfied in return for their money!

Do you have no understanding of reading?
Then go to your teacher and have it explained to you!

What he does is only a win for him and his Patreons loose - he literally leaves them in the desert with their tails in their hands!

 

[Aristos]

"Present
Patreon powers membership businesses for creators by giving them the tools they need to acquire, manage, and energize their paying patrons. With a subscription-style payment model, fans pay their favorite creators a monthly amount of their choice in exchange for exclusive access, extra content, or a closer look into their creative journey.
This model is a win-win; creators retain creative freedom while getting the salary they deserve, and fans get to rest easy knowing that their money goes directly towards creating more of what they love."

Patreon is totally right there! I absolutely love private parties with hot models and expensive booze.

 

[Vocal]

rushed ending again? just like milf's villa? what about fucking liza, judy, threesome with linda/caroline, linda/sarah, caroline/sarah, linda/liza, group sex with linda/caroline/sarah/liza/yasmin, public sex with any of the mentioned females? gone, reduced to atoms. i love every game icstor has produced so far (even though i hated how he rushed milf's villa), but milfy city? my favorite porn game? he can rot in hell for all i care. this guy cucks his fanbase with every new game he makes. i'll play his new game (if he releases it before the corona kills half the population) but i'm expecting the same cycle now over and over. it's a shame because this game had the best female models and animations i've seen in a porn game. oh and a big FU to icstor. end of rant

It's definitely a shame. I was really interested in Judy. I don't know how he is going to finish all of those storylines if he can't even do Saras. It took him forever to finish Caroline, Celia, and the neighboors too. Didn't even add animation to them until later. And the different paths too. Like the pregancy route with Caroline? Who knows what's going to happen with that. Lind'a storyline with being caught by Bob or not. And the Harem storyline? It's really a shame that all of this potential and talent is going to go to waste like this. At least we're getting an ending, but it's going to be rush.

It's already been mention before constantly, but you should check Being a DIK. I think it has better animation. Best female models is subjective, but I think MC has better female models. But, BaDIK has better story.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

But, BaDIK has better story.

Well, as opposed to Milfy City Delta Iota Kappa HAS a story. That makes it better by default.

 

[Sir_EatsALot]

So yes ofc, you all enjoy your 2 mns of ranting and point out the awfull dev, the evil lord who spoil the poors and it makes you feel so good to pretend to be morally superior, but who are you kidding here?
Who are really the idiots of the story here, the patrons, the dev team or the "let's go on a forum to say how bad Icstor is" people?

I would say it's the guy who comes to an online forum about pirated porn games and judges people for judging the game (and dev). You Sir have the wrong address. Try wikipedia next time.

 

[Sir_EatsALot]

Oh please don't come with Wikipedia now to me!
Read the explanations on the Patreon website!

"Present
Patreon powers membership businesses for creators by giving them the tools they need to acquire, manage, and energize their paying patrons. With a subscription-style payment model, fans pay their favorite creators a monthly amount of their choice in exchange for exclusive access, extra content, or a closer look into their creative journey.
This model is a win-win; creators retain creative freedom while getting the salary they deserve, and fans get to rest easy knowing that their money goes directly towards creating more of what they love."

This includes both contacting the Patreon and getting the Patreons satisfied in return for their money!

Do you have no understanding of reading?
Then go to your teacher and have it explained to you!

What he does is only a win for him and his Patreons - he literally leaves them in the desert with their tails in their hands!

But obviously his patrons are satisfied. Why else would they still pay him ?

 

[goobdoob]

Oh please don't come with Wikipedia now to me!
Read the explanations on the Patreon website!

"Present
Patreon powers membership businesses for creators by giving them the tools they need to acquire, manage, and energize their paying patrons. With a subscription-style payment model, fans pay their favorite creators a monthly amount of their choice in exchange for exclusive access, extra content, or a closer look into their creative journey.
This model is a win-win; creators retain creative freedom while getting the salary they deserve, and fans get to rest easy knowing that their money goes directly towards creating more of what they love."

This includes both contacting the Patreon and getting the Patreons satisfied in return for their money!

Do you have no understanding of reading?
Then go to your teacher and have it explained to you!

What he does is only a win for him and his Patreons loose - he literally leaves them in the desert with their tails in their hands!

I'm not sure where you get "both contacting the Patreon" and "getting the Patreons satisfied in return for their money".

First, it's patrons. Patreon is the name of the business.

Second, nowhere in the quote from Patreon that you posted does it say anything about contacting patrons, or satisfying them.

Third, I posted a definition of patronage. You posted Patreon's blurb to creators about what they do. These are two different things, and don't compare to each other.

 

[boxedjack]

Looking at your post gave me the weirdest idea. What if a large number of people apply the incest patch, take screenshots of the game, and then report it to patreon? What would happen then?

Most likely nothing. I'm not sure Patreon really gives a fuck about their own guidelines as long as creators don't advertise it when they break them. I can think of at least two games featured here that had incest for a long time (one from it's incarnation) and have been on Patreon for 2+ years without any issues as far as I know. The games I'm thinking of don't require a patch either.

I've so far only seen Evangelion-01 make this point but all people calling on Patreon need to remember that they take a cut out of all creators paycheck's and until recently, Icstor's been one of their top money makers. They get paid when he's getting paid and they'd have zero incentive to get rid of him unless they were faced with some seriously negative publicity. Which is not going to happen, because nobody is gonna spread the story about those people feeling scamed when their favorite incest themed porn game was abandoned.
Not that they should, not like they're spending my money...

 

[Rythan25]

Jesus all this crying makes me want to actually go support Icstor... all this whinnying about "never-ending" games is so pathetic its almost laughable... Icstor has like 4 or 5 COMPLETED games, you can cry foul that YOU hated the endings for IS2 and Milf's Villa, but that's YOUR problem...

The games had endings, their plotlines were resolved. Could the mom from Milf Villa have used way more than 1 sex scene before the damn game ended ? of fucking course !! Yet it still gave closure...

IS2 is even more iffy I dont know what people wanted from that game's ending, actually scratch that, the main complaint I heard from that one was utterly asinine... people wanted Icstor to follow the shitty "mom gets raped" route, and give an ending to that... ROFLMAO at that stupid sentiment... that was meant to be a fucking bad end, something you DIDNT want.

Again I am not defending ICSTOR in the sense that I think he is without faults... but the shit being brought up against him makes me LOL... save this anger for truly scumbag devs that milk the shit out of their patrons like Scumdrop (Gumdrop) who hasnt released a damn update for the crappy depressive game Dual Family in 2 YEARS!!!! and still makes 8k a month, more than Icstor's 6k ! Or AWAM Dev who has been making 7.5k for the past two years, and his game has 1 SEX SCENE... he releases 3 updates per year !!

I mean if we are going to smear devs just because we dont like the endings THEY chose for their games, then toss me in for DrPink's Acting Lesson, 2 of the routes in MSMR from Sumo, The last 3/4 of Spaced Out, The ending of Two Weeks, Everything in Bully, the entirety of Dual Family, the bugs in Second Happiness, the revamp of My New Life, etc...

 

[boxedjack]

....and still makes 8k a month, more than Icstor's 6k ! ...

Just a quick point. Icstor recently fell to 6k patrons, not dollars. He made about 7.5$ per Patron before he made the actual current amount private.

Also, do you really think people are angry about an creative decision that isn't to their taste? Personally, I rather think people are tired of being lied to which now culminated with Icstor basically admitting that he's been bullshitting people. It's certainly arguable wether there is any merit to people complaining or if pirates have any moral high ground or if they should argue on behalf of Patrons they deem to stupid to do it for themselves. But I invite you to read all these (mostly) quotes Icstor made regarding the development and release dates of the last two version and I'm curious to know if you still think the issue here is a disagreement about a creative decision:

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[Deleted member 1315130]

Would it be against any kind of laws if another game dev finished this game properly? I'm not asking for myself since I know fuck-all about programming, but it sucks to see the ship sink like this

 

[JoeButtWhole]

While reading the last ~20 pages, I have to be honest. It is a SHAME.

Not what people are posting, but what the delay, another delay, another delay caused in the end. I was myself a big fan of the games from ICSTOR. Truth be told, these where one of the first porn games I ever tried. So I became a fan just by the quality he always delivered. Last year I myself dropped out of being a supporter, because I want to see things at one point. And the quality of 0.6 was... Well. You are all aware of how it was.

So what are the options now to "turn that baby around". Well in normal game development honest posting of things that are right now happening. Sure he now did this, but where exactly is the core message: I will deliver content X on date Z. Sorry, without this, all of the text was just another message.

I personally still hope he will continue working in the quality way I was used to see the games and the content provided in the past. Otherwise, I will really abonden all of the future content just not to get dissaoppointed. Because it is a shame what happened to all of its reputation, quality and effort.

 

[sh0x]

I wonder at what point people will just finally decide to stop pledging. That's the only message that works - taking away money. I did that a long time ago and never plan on pledging to him ever again.

 

[pim0]

But obviously his patrons are satisfied.

currently
6,459
PATRONS

no comment

https://f95zone.to/threads/milfy-city-v0-6e-icstor.8012/page-2190

 

[JoeButtWhole]

currently
6,459
PATRONS

no comment

https://f95zone.to/threads/milfy-city-v0-6e-icstor.8012/page-2190

He makes between 6-14k. Based on experience with the values showed there, it´s in the middle. Which is unbelievable....

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