boxedjack

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Apr 23, 2017
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....and still makes 8k a month, more than Icstor's 6k ! ...
Just a quick point. Icstor recently fell to 6k patrons, not dollars. He made about 7.5$ per Patron before he made the actual current amount private.

Also, do you really think people are angry about an creative decision that isn't to their taste? Personally, I rather think people are tired of being lied to which now culminated with Icstor basically admitting that he's been bullshitting people. It's certainly arguable wether there is any merit to people complaining or if pirates have any moral high ground or if they should argue on behalf of Patrons they deem to stupid to do it for themselves. But I invite you to read all these (mostly) quotes Icstor made regarding the development and release dates of the last two version and I'm curious to know if you still think the issue here is a disagreement about a creative decision:

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Would it be against any kind of laws if another game dev finished this game properly? I'm not asking for myself since I know fuck-all about programming, but it sucks to see the ship sink like this
 

JoeButtWhole

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Jun 12, 2017
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While reading the last ~20 pages, I have to be honest. It is a SHAME.

Not what people are posting, but what the delay, another delay, another delay caused in the end. I was myself a big fan of the games from ICSTOR. Truth be told, these where one of the first porn games I ever tried. So I became a fan just by the quality he always delivered. Last year I myself dropped out of being a supporter, because I want to see things at one point. And the quality of 0.6 was... Well. You are all aware of how it was.

So what are the options now to "turn that baby around". Well in normal game development honest posting of things that are right now happening. Sure he now did this, but where exactly is the core message: I will deliver content X on date Z. Sorry, without this, all of the text was just another message.

I personally still hope he will continue working in the quality way I was used to see the games and the content provided in the past. Otherwise, I will really abonden all of the future content just not to get dissaoppointed. Because it is a shame what happened to all of its reputation, quality and effort.
 

sh0x

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Jun 6, 2017
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I wonder at what point people will just finally decide to stop pledging. That's the only message that works - taking away money. I did that a long time ago and never plan on pledging to him ever again.
 

MurkyTurtle

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He makes between 6-14k. Based on experience with the values showed there, it´s in the middle. Which is unbelievable....

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That'd be assuming his average pledge was $1-2. You need to pledge a minimum $10 a month to download the game, and the last numbers we had for the average amount pledged per patron was somewhere around $8. We'll be generous and say he's had a dropoff to a $7 average, so 6400 patrons * $7 each = $44800 per month. Even with a fairly wide window, it's very likely he's been pulling somewhere between $35-55k a month for most of the last year.

He keeps most of that for himself, too, since his "team" is all contractors. And I could be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure he said a while back that he was hiding the amount he actually makes because he didn't want said contractors to know and therefore demand more money.
 

thanatos69

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He makes between 6-14k. Based on experience with the values showed there, it´s in the middle. Which is unbelievable....

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You're wrong. Multiply the number of patrons by 10. He's roughly making btw 60-80k $(some patrons pledge way more than 10 bucks) without doing anything :KEK:
 
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01234

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He makes between 6-14k. Based on experience with the values showed there, it´s in the middle. Which is unbelievable....
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That'd be assuming his average pledge was $1-2. You need to pledge a minimum $10 a month to download the [...]
You're wrong. Multiply the number of patrons by 10. He's roughly making btw 60-80k $ [...]
Not to get into this argument of yours ;) but I would like to point out that Graphtron itself gives an estimate of his monthly income. Now I know that I might be wrong but I would assume that they (Graphtron) do have some experience in estimating this number.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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He makes between 6-14k. Based on experience with the values showed there, it´s in the middle. Which is unbelievable....

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Wrong. It is between $16K - $42k per month. Likely closer to the top estimative than the bottom one.
 
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