zweihander63

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Oct 1, 2018
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Let me explain it to you in simple terms.
The creators who put out a decent product(quality,quantity,speed) deserve everysingle penny from their subscribers. And those are rare..
The Lazyass scumbags that milk a game for 4 years before producing hardly any content, deserve to be exposed for their bullshit and get nothing.
No amount of Whiteknighting fanboy-cultists can change that.
I don't support ICSTOR on Patreon. I like the game but I'm not trying to defend him. I happen to agree with you. He DOES move slowly. I don't think supporting ICSTOR is a good idea.

My point was that we, as pirates, have no right to complain about slow progress. It's stupid to go on a pirate forum and complain the content you don't pay for isn't released as fast you want.
 

Krynh

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Jan 20, 2020
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My point was that we, as pirates, have no right to complain about slow progress. It's stupid to go on a pirate forum and complain the content you don't pay for isn't released as fast you want.
Maybe, but we can still talk about how long it takes and how he's just milking his Patreons and the idiots who keep subscribing. As it is now, there is no reason to support him whatsoever now or in the future. He doesn't need the money and won't make him start doing any work.
 

timepants

God of Time (and Pants)
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I don't support ICSTOR on Patreon. I like the game but I'm not trying to defend him. I happen to agree with you. He DOES move slowly. I don't think supporting ICSTOR is a good idea.

My point was that we, as pirates, have no right to complain about slow progress. It's stupid to go on a pirate forum and complain the content you don't pay for isn't released as fast you want.
This goes beyond working slowly to just breaking every promise he made and refusing to fulfill the goals he outlined on his professional page. All while raking in more money than most people make in a year every month.

Goal Number 3 for example: When we cross the threshold, creating the game for you will become a job for me, it means that I will work on it for most of the time! This means very rapid updates! Goal was achieved years ago.

Goal Number 4: I can see that there is a chance to employ one person who will help to create games for you. When we cross this threshold, I will try to provide significant monthly updates! Also achieved years ago.

Goal Number 6: Once we reach this goal we are able to slowly start adding fully animated sex scenes to the current game and the future ones. That means - no more looped 1,2-second animation! Goal achieved years ago. Also completely abandoned.

To say that people aren't allowed to complain unless they purchased the project is silly. I have never bought a John Deere tractor. I know for a fact that they have repair contracts making it illegal to repair or modify your own tractor in any way. I'd still call them out for being a bunch of shits without having ever purchased any of their products.

I saw the Hobbit on tv for free one day. It was a flaming ball of shit. I never bought tickets to see the movie or purchased a copy. Does that mean my opinion is invalid?

Furthermore, to suggest that I need to pay Icstor for the privilege of making a complaint is ludicrous.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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This goes beyond working slowly to just breaking every promise he made and refusing to fulfill the goals he outlined on his professional page. All while raking in more money than most people make in a year every month.

Goal Number 3 for example: When we cross the threshold, creating the game for you will become a job for me, it means that I will work on it for most of the time! This means very rapid updates! Goal was achieved years ago.

Goal Number 4: I can see that there is a chance to employ one person who will help to create games for you. When we cross this threshold, I will try to provide significant monthly updates! Also achieved years ago.

Goal Number 6: Once we reach this goal we are able to slowly start adding fully animated sex scenes to the current game and the future ones. That means - no more looped 1,2-second animation! Goal achieved years ago. Also completely abandoned.

To say that people aren't allowed to complain unless they purchased the project is silly. I have never bought a John Deere tractor. I know for a fact that they have repair contracts making it illegal to repair or modify your own tractor in any way. I'd still call them out for being a bunch of shits without having ever purchased any of their products.

I saw the Hobbit on tv for free one day. It was a flaming ball of shit. I never bought tickets to see the movie or purchased a copy. Does that mean my opinion is invalid?

Furthermore, to suggest that I need to pay Icstor for the privilege of making a complaint is ludicrous.
Icstor could have paid a small team to work on the game for him, while he would work supervising the project akin to a videogame producer. That would greatly speed things up when compared to his semestral (or worse) schedule. However he doesn't do that despite receiving likely closer to 40k every month ( ).

The only reason I can see for none of those goals being fulfilled is that Icstor is abusing patreon system with his predatory scheme to milk people who donate money to support him and his projects.


I don't support ICSTOR on Patreon. I like the game but I'm not trying to defend him. I happen to agree with you. He DOES move slowly. I don't think supporting ICSTOR is a good idea.

My point was that we, as pirates, have no right to complain about slow progress. It's stupid to go on a pirate forum and complain the content you don't pay for isn't released as fast you want.
Disagree.
If anyone try going to the FutaDom thread will see in the past I was always defending the developers team (4) when people would complain about their 4-5 months release widow (they got a bit better in that regard), usually calling them lazy or that they were milking their patrons.

Because despite the fact that they did had problems with their schedule they would always deliver on their promises for the game. They added gameplay mechanics, lots of sex scenes, improved the story of the romantic routes they are doing and even made sure to add lots of world bulding lore for their distopia setting.

Meanwhile Icstor is unable to fullfill any of his promises, even his patreon goals as TimePants mentioned above, with a budget several times bigger.

So yes i don't really believe one need to be a patron to suspect what is happening with his "game development".
 
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Conviction07

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As a developer myself, I rarely criticize other devs for their business practises, but it’s remarkable how little ambition ICSTOR has considering the incredible financial success he’s achieved. If I were in his shoes, I’d have a full team working for me by now. And that doesn’t mean two or three people. I’m talking like ten. Hell, he should be considering opening a small studio at this point. He can clearly afford it, and there are countless talented artists, writers and programmers out there who would kill to work for him. Then he could have half the team continue working on Milfy City, while the other half would then develop these newer games that he’s supposedly so passionate about.
 

Joey the mangaka

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Sep 18, 2018
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Other game abandone its the 3 game of this dev. Possible need focus in one new game and not change. Much money less progress. Good luck in the new game and focus in one game not patches.
 

BrokenAJ

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As a developer myself, I rarely criticize other devs for their business practises, but it’s remarkable how little ambition ICSTOR has considering the incredible financial success he’s achieved. If I were in his shoes, I’d have a full team working for me by now. And that doesn’t mean two or three people. I’m talking like ten. Hell, he should be considering opening a small studio at this point. He can clearly afford it, and there are countless talented artists, writers and programmers out there who would kill to work for him. Then he could have half the team continue working on Milfy City, while the other half would then develop these newer games that he’s supposedly so passionate about.
I like your style. Did you develop these games in your signature?
 

DrNo0b

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Nov 26, 2017
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in principle he does everything right.
He takes a few pictures, everyone throws money at him, then he dives off again for a few months and collects a lot of money

again, again, again ...

"Panem et circenses"

It always works.
It worked in ancient Rome and still works today.

And if things get really tight, he releases the next update and writes something on patreon and people come back to the light like moths.

again, again, again ...
 

PPE2RedDucks

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Oct 3, 2018
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ICSTOR, just give us Celia Violet and Cindy, and drop the rest.

Or liberate that trio to a new (short) game, called Whorey City, Slutty City, Milky City, or something of that sort.
 
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3nigma

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Nov 20, 2018
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Well that was sad end to all those who kept waiting for a new update. Anyways the only hope left is that icstor dosnt plop the end like a cake from a height which im sure will happen

(sorry for my bad Analogy , english isnt my first language so was not sure how to compare it)
 
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