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And here's the thing right, MILFY City was one of the games I liked from him the most because I'm a sucker for good romance stories. Of all his games up until this one, Milf's Control was my favorite (even though I dislike the mind control fetish) because of that nice ending he wrote with the older sister.

The story he wrote with Caroline was incredible, and I could genuinely see the feelings develop. This is sort of why I dislike stories where the chick is already envisioning getting ploughed by the MC unless it makes a lot of sense. That's probably the reason I dislike Linda the most of the entire cast.

There was a discussion I had with a friend of mine where we were talking about developers who have incredible models but lackluster storytelling and others who have the inverse.

ICSTOR is one of the few devs that actually has a nice balance. The textbooks examples of these are:

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ICSTOR was one of the few devs that gave me that fix of wholesome content (I largely ignore the kinks I don't like and only do it for completion's sake) but now? He's been replaced with quality devs like DrPinkCake, OrbOrigin, Nefastus, ChainZero and AZ. Those games are ones you believe in mostly because the devs actually talk to the fanbase and keep them updated on progress fairly regularly.

ICSTOR wasted the potential he had. And god that irritates me. I LOVE his models and he at times writes really good stories, but if you're gonna do a game where you get bored of the idea, why even do it in the first place?
 

ijako3

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Well rip, ends up just like his another two games.

If there will be no harem content and scenes that include all the 3 main ladies, then i don't even care anymore. :D
 

coldman

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BoiZ I just fell the urge to drop my opinion- several months ago when I wrote about icstor there where many negative reactions and my PM was also "ringing". He may have good stuff but way to many excuses. I'm a great programmer and I'm paid pretty much a lot but if I'd fuck up something or break a deadline I'd be fucked rough for any other project I wanna take from a serious buyer. If he thinks that "burned out" is a good excuse, well buddy, lemme tell you a secret- I never fucking loved chemistry in school but I still aced it. Having talent is nothing without putting a lot of good old hard work along.
Sure in life there is a lot of things that can go horrible not just bad, but to have excuse that you are burned out, to me that's a synonym for being lazy.
 
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yankeeInKy

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I've just started this game thinking it wasn't going to be finished. It's sad that it looks like it might be a half ass finish to this. I hope not. What he did to his patrons was wrong. No updates, silence, then I'm sorry? He milked them. Ok, you have personal issues, or burn out. Ok, wouldn't an explanation to your customers been the least he/she could have done while that was occuring instead of leaving people in limbo?
 

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I usually side with devs when people start complaining because I know how hard it is to make a game and how long it actually takes, and that this "just hire more people to make the game for you" is not that easy - good, trustworthy workers are hard to find, and a good DAZ3D artist for example (and there aren't many of them) can take a good chunk of your payment (up to 10K).
ICSTOR was never depressed, he just didn't want to work on this game anymore. Working on something you don't like anymore can make you feel depressed, I've been there, so I understand this, but spending several months not working one bit on your game and lying about it is disgusting. That being said, it was pretty obvious he was doing this, and that the game releases started to come like once a year, so if people want to pay for that that's their problem. I see a lot of people here (who steal games btw) getting angry when I think they are just jealous of how much he makes for so little work. If you have to be mad with someone be mad at the patrons who support this kind of work, but I assure you they are all old enough to decide how to spend their own money.
Plotting to make him lose his page/game/money is also disgusting. Let the man do his job and let people pay for it if they want, stop trying to hurt someone else's life/wallet.

Abandoning projects is a classic in the game development community, I think ICSTOR is taking the right step here realizing his problem and deciding to make smaller games.

And if anyone wants to remake or continue this game, just do it - call it a fan game, a parody or whatever, no one will care, you don't have to go after the rights of the game.
 

phoenixbrose

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Very few writers today have a publisher that gives them advances, outside of famous superstar bestseller writers (George RR Martin, Steven King) who probably don't even need the money anyway.
As a professional author who has been published by several small presses, I can confirm this 1000%. Every contract I've been offered is royalty-based only. And depending on the press, we're often lucky to get accurate reporting on even that little trickle!

But that's for books. I know many authors who also have a Patreon, where they post short stories, behind-the-scenes blog-type stuff, or--if they're experienced enough--advice for up and comers. Every one of them feels immense pressure to create content as well as keep working on stuff for broader release, and many have shut their pages down rather than let their supporters hang in the wind. THAT is the difference between someone who is a true artist / creator and someone who's only in it for the money. This entire thread is a perfect example of the other end of that equation.
 
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Truly a lesson to be learnt for aspiring / new creatives carving out their way into the world. You may make alot of money right now. But eventually the goodwill from your fans will dry out and eventually the money too if one pulls the same bullshit stunt again and again. Maybe not now. But eventually it will be a reality and oh boy will it hit'cha Super. Fucking. Hard.

Reality will be like:
 

L0thar

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I usually side with devs when people start complaining because I know how hard it is to make a game and how long it actually takes, and that this "just hire more people to make the game for you" is not that easy - good, trustworthy workers are hard to find, and a good DAZ3D artist for example (and there aren't many of them) can take a good chunk of your payment (up to 10K).
ICSTOR was never depressed, he just didn't want to work on this game anymore. Working on something you don't like anymore can make you feel depressed, I've been there, so I understand this, but spending several months not working one bit on your game and lying about it is disgusting. That being said, it was pretty obvious he was doing this, and that the game releases started to come like once a year, so if people want to pay for that that's their problem. I see a lot of people here (who steal games btw) getting angry when I think they are just jealous of how much he makes for so little work. If you have to be mad with someone be mad at the patrons who support this kind of work, but I assure you they are all old enough to decide how to spend their own money.
Plotting to make him lose his page/game/money is also disgusting. Let the man do his job and let people pay for it if they want, stop trying to hurt someone else's life/wallet.

Abandoning projects is a classic in the game development community, I think ICSTOR is taking the right step here realizing his problem and deciding to make smaller games.

And if anyone wants to remake or continue this game, just do it - call it a fan game, a parody or whatever, no one will care, you don't have to go after the rights of the game.
In general, I agree with you and I am not going to join the choir complaining about ICSTOR.
Creating a game is in a sense something like running your own business. Many, if not all, must be dealt with by yourself.
Many people don't realize how terrible it is and how much time it takes. It can also be very comprehensive and discouraging you to continue. However, there is also the other side of the coin. ICSTOR undertook this work which is making the game and taking money for it made some commitments. It would be honest to finish them, despite the hardships it entails. After all, this was not his first game and he should know how much work he needs and calculate everything well to complete the task. It's just my five cents. Personally, I wish the author a lot of health and patience and of course successful completion of the game.
 
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A young student finds himself in the school therapist office, after a humiliating moment with another teacher at school. While plotting his revenge, he'll romance other characters at the school and at home.​

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L0thar

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why in ICSTOR patreon many people hate comment?

he just want vacation and "break" until he have time to work another update. Please respectfuly what develop have done until now
By insulting Icstor and showing impatience we will not gain anything. It remains only to wait for developments. I hope they will turn out positively.
 

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why in ICSTOR patreon many people hate comment?

he just want vacation and "break" until he have time to work another update. Please respectfuly what develop have done until now
Because he had a 2 month break last year. And dragged his feet doing the work for 0.6 after that. And continued to talk about his good progress, until he went silent. Again.
 
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