Let me see here, a few people commenting on this thread are "mad" because Icstor has both patreon and subscribestar? I know a number of people that have those, as well. When you aren't generating money from ad revenue, either actively or passively, then you have to turn to other sources. And most use either Patreon, Subscribestar, or both. And the people who are selling their games on Steam, etc.? They aren't making money hand over fist there, either. Steam takes a cut of every sale. That is true of Epic, GoG, etc. Relying on just ad revenue alone for making a game is no way to live. Patreon, etc., is okay. But you can't tell me that you can go from a start up game to finish game in the time that some people post updates to their games here. And who knows if Icstor will pull their game from here with all this negativity. While the game may go to say Abandoned from time to time, due to real life, writer's block, etc., at least we have a game to play for a while. So, before you go and hate on a person who is trying their best to live, why don't you just be patient, and let the person work. And if you want to talk about a scammer of a game maker, why don't you talk about DarthSmut and Death Star Trainer. That guy is a piece of work.