Hoey

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Oct 8, 2018
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Oh, and by the way, I usually don't answer when a person "yo"'s me, and why should anyone care about what a person has in their sigs? The names of the games are in the sigs, check them out maybe before you make yourself the fool.

Ignored and thank you for coming. Watch the door on the way out, it has a habit of smacking certain types of people in the ass. I'm guessing you're going to be one of them.
Well uhh, I mean, you're free to like girls on the younger side man, but just watch out for cops haha
 

Jack0h

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Sep 7, 2018
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I find it interesting you reference Dumas, yet you don't seem to know what Dev you are talking about in this forum.

Also, you start your post with "Absence of proof is not proof of absence". There is a difference between abandoning a game and being absent as a developer, you are correct. Along the lines of 'absence', realize that Shitstor has not made a single update announcement himself since:
Home website: August, 2020;
SubscribeStar: Never, technically, because the only 'update' was the creation post, since which the page has been locked;
Patreon: November, 2021
Discord: Who knows, because Ashbash has been talking for him, for months.

Lastly, your final statement about needing assurances he will finish the new game is confusing in the context of your argument. The main sentiment on this forum basically boils down to: He has abandoned the game. You ask what proof exists for this sentiment, and the forum has responded that his lack of communication, and history of NOT finishing 'complete' stories in his past several games (Project X, aka Milfy Kingdom, never even saw a release) is such proof. Yet you seek a formal announcement of abandonment from the developer, despite this history.

If you put your hand on a stove that is turned on, you get burned. Forgive the members of this forum for not wanting to put our hands back on the burner, even without someone telling us not to do so.
No, I totally get your point about the stove. But - using that same metaphor - you don't tell others that the stove is on when you only suspect that its on. None of what I wrote should be considered a defense of the dev; its a defense of all devs, because they are making games without the benefit of a company of coders, writers, writers and proofreaders. They are typically doing all of the work by themselves, and the do get burned out. At least two games I loved collapsed in this way [MC was not one of those listed favorites], so I typically urge people to be a bit less self-involved when considering whether a game had been abandoned.

So yeah, I do expect more proof than some knob running through the threads making spurious claims. You yourself have made the effort to point out that the dev hasn't finished anything that they have started - which I think is the sort of proof I was looking for in the absence of the dev cowboying up and admitting their deeply ingrained commitment issues.

Lastly, serving up gossip for actual fact is like dining in the dark - you don't know if the chicken you are eating is green with moss until later you find out how wrong you were for consuming it. Gossip is for drama queens and abject fucking losers, and I am always going to call ut some self-important clown who does so. Who here has not been the subject of ill-informed gossip?
 

adolyeet

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Dec 29, 2019
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Now this was just a rumor. So take it with a grain of salt. But it has been said that the Dev was a female and that she passed away and the one that has been posting as ICSTOR and raking in all the money was her boyfriend. Now that said. With how that last update ( which really didn't fit in the flow the game had been taking at all) and all the delays and lies. I myself are starting to wonder if that rumor wasn't actually a fact.
That is the most wackass bullshit I have seen on this site. The dev being dead and "her", which I call out as bullshit right away, ISCTOR is easily a dude, boyfriend and stealing the cash? i have seen some stupid conspiracy theories during my time on this godforsaken planet, and this one is up there as being one of the stupidest.
 
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Dr. Katie's Body, hey you're back. If you are who I think you are you've been eating through accounts, huh friend. :)
I have a story behind that, I told Uthuriel about it. I didn't expect to come back, long story short, suicide attempt, psych ward, therapy. I deleted all my things; games, screenies, everything, believe me, I didn't expect to survive, but I did. Still here, by some fucking miracle. :ROFLMAO:
 

Skeltom

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Oct 9, 2017
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Trying, not always easy. What I just recently went through was probably one of the worst I've ever tried. Anyway, I may not be dead, but this game sure as hell is...sorry Caroline. :cry:

So it's officially kaput now? I see his patrons are much lower than last time I checked. Still over 4k but wasn't it over 10? I've stopped wasting my time checking his page aside from today.
 

Skyangel007

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Jan 14, 2018
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well im sad to see this got abandoned but at least Caroline story was "kinda" brought to a conclusion. She is my favo all time elder sister character but I'm kind of disappointed we will never get to see the pregnant route. Same goes for the Linda and Celia routes. I loved the physical appearance of those characters and their personalities + the storylines. To bad we will never get to see a conclusion to that (well at least it got to the sex scenes). Only one thing a person like myself can really hope for is that somebody with enough skill will reproduce those characters renders and maybe start a spinoff game.
 

Jhon1885

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Jan 8, 2018
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I'm not arguing that. But tell me what about the past 2 years with this game has made any sense
Let's see, in these instances everything is valid, even if he has been abducted by an alien (in fact I am seriously considering making a VN about this, in the form of a parody).

From my point of view it seems to me the following:

First let's "analyze" a little bit the Dev through his works, what do we find? Being honest, originality always shines by its absence, creativity was never the strong point; I do incest stories and I get icstor, the names of the games, the characters, the same formula over and over and over and over and over again.

Milf City I think was his "golden goose" and he overdemanded himself, because it's more than he can give, rpgmaker games are smaller and simpler in every way.
Not because Milf City is like Summertime Saga, but because he himself is limited in that sense.

Its forte (when it came out) has been the animations, it was one of the few that used facial expressions well, added to the simple plot and the fanservice, it found a good place to position itself as a successful dev.

This is not a criticism of his work (apart from how unethical it is); that is: the goal is to have fun; if you make something super complex, maybe it has its merit for the elitists, but if it's simple and fun, it's completely valid! The goal is to be entertaining and Inctor fulfilled it.

One point that made me doubt if he really "existed" was his apparent replies, full of arrogance towards his own fans, so much so that I've even read that he said things like (the adm speaking for him) "Thank you if Icstor answers you", among other surreal comments that seems taken from a 14 year old kid looking to troll in a forum.

Either he does not exist and they speak for him (and create such a character), or he is an asshole, and here I go with respect to what could have happened in those two years and now:

He knows (or thinks he knows) that he has them all eating in his hands, he is a guy who actually enjoys more luck and having (more at the time where he came out) time and money as a good pc to make good renders (and the difference at the time), but that his shortcomings are discipline, storytelling, imagination enough to carry out works that are not a cliché with legs of no more than 2 hrs long.

First Incstor died or never existed:

It was possible to get a statement out, not referring to his mental illness and that he didn't take a vacation, devs have passed away and taken over the game.

With the success of Milf City, anyone, and I mean 95% of people could have managed this better.
It's not Shakespeare, any Dev who has experience and has played Milf City can reproduce it, it's known that even not all Milf City renders are from Icestor (the last ones being the most obvious).

What's the profit in letting the golden goose die?

It's like, it's too far fetched, to me (maybe that's the reason, but).

I think he's got "Rockstar" syndrome; maybe he got hooked on drugs or alcohol (or both) or out there is so resting on his laurels, he enjoys the good life at the expense of his fans.

Imagine those stories of rockstars who ruined their careers, or hit records because of their ego and think they are the best on earth.

I stand by what we know about him from the way he acted, played and talked back. I don't know if he worked in addition to his VN's, but if he is one, doing them is very time consuming, especially if he does them in renpy; and if he is a "slacker", and thinks that everyone eats his food, then he is a "slacker", and that he is not the only one who is a "slacker". and he thinks that everyone eats from his hand, he is just screwing his fans, maybe he is very sure that he is like a Philosopher's Stone, and that everything he touches, he turns it into gold.

It seems like that Gabbo's simpsons episode, He finished 0.7 and said "All the kids in Springfield are SOB's !"
 

ropershy

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Aug 14, 2020
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Let's see, in these instances everything is valid, even if he has been abducted by an alien (in fact I am seriously considering making a VN about this, in the form of a parody).

From my point of view it seems to me the following:

First let's "analyze" a little bit the Dev through his works, what do we find? Being honest, originality always shines by its absence, creativity was never the strong point; I do incest stories and I get icstor, the names of the games, the characters, the same formula over and over and over and over and over again.

Milf City I think was his "golden goose" and he overdemanded himself, because it's more than he can give, rpgmaker games are smaller and simpler in every way.
Not because Milf City is like Summertime Saga, but because he himself is limited in that sense.

Its forte (when it came out) has been the animations, it was one of the few that used facial expressions well, added to the simple plot and the fanservice, it found a good place to position itself as a successful dev.

This is not a criticism of his work (apart from how unethical it is); that is: the goal is to have fun; if you make something super complex, maybe it has its merit for the elitists, but if it's simple and fun, it's completely valid! The goal is to be entertaining and Inctor fulfilled it.

One point that made me doubt if he really "existed" was his apparent replies, full of arrogance towards his own fans, so much so that I've even read that he said things like (the adm speaking for him) "Thank you if Icstor answers you", among other surreal comments that seems taken from a 14 year old kid looking to troll in a forum.

Either he does not exist and they speak for him (and create such a character), or he is an asshole, and here I go with respect to what could have happened in those two years and now:

He knows (or thinks he knows) that he has them all eating in his hands, he is a guy who actually enjoys more luck and having (more at the time where he came out) time and money as a good pc to make good renders (and the difference at the time), but that his shortcomings are discipline, storytelling, imagination enough to carry out works that are not a cliché with legs of no more than 2 hrs long.

First Incstor died or never existed:

It was possible to get a statement out, not referring to his mental illness and that he didn't take a vacation, devs have passed away and taken over the game.

With the success of Milf City, anyone, and I mean 95% of people could have managed this better.
It's not Shakespeare, any Dev who has experience and has played Milf City can reproduce it, it's known that even not all Milf City renders are from Icestor (the last ones being the most obvious).

What's the profit in letting the golden goose die?

It's like, it's too far fetched, to me (maybe that's the reason, but).

I think he's got "Rockstar" syndrome; maybe he got hooked on drugs or alcohol (or both) or out there is so resting on his laurels, he enjoys the good life at the expense of his fans.

Imagine those stories of rockstars who ruined their careers, or hit records because of their ego and think they are the best on earth.

I stand by what we know about him from the way he acted, played and talked back. I don't know if he worked in addition to his VN's, but if he is one, doing them is very time consuming, especially if he does them in renpy; and if he is a "slacker", and thinks that everyone eats his food, then he is a "slacker", and that he is not the only one who is a "slacker". and he thinks that everyone eats from his hand, he is just screwing his fans, maybe he is very sure that he is like a Philosopher's Stone, and that everything he touches, he turns it into gold.

It seems like that Gabbo's simpsons episode, He finished 0.7 and said "All the kids in Springfield are SOB's !"
Thing is. We will probably never know. So everything right now is guess work.
 
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