Onyxdime

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Hey Onyx. Great stuff showing up and interacting with the fans. I think it's safe to say that we all appreciate it.

If I may ask, may you please let us know if you ever get some content with Celia? Thanks again and good luck.
Just giving you an update because I remembered you asked, script for Celia's story right up to the conclusion have now been drafted.
 
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Onyxdime

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Ya’ll are dumb as fuck if you think this game will ever have another update again. I hope you got paid up front OnyxDime because the “final product” is never getting released.
I only ever take payment after I've completed work - both in my role as an erotic writer, and in my main job as a lawyer.

I don't believe in being paid before work being finished. If you take a look at my own, unrelated, Patreon for my writing you'll see it is set to only charge when work has been produced.
 

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I only ever take payment after I've completed work - both in my role as an erotic writer, and in my main job as a lawyer.

I don't believe in being paid before work being finished. If you take a look at my own, unrelated, Patreon for my writing you'll see it is set to only charge when work has been produced.
Hi Onyxdime:

WOW you are a lawyer and yet you find time for erotic writing. Good time management skills there.

Anyway my real reason for writing is this. There is still lots of skepticism about this being a genuine attempt to complete the game. I have to say that I'm one of those. Being that you have a communications channel with ICSTOR, and best placed to explain the extent of resentment, why not ask if he is willing to provide some evidence of substance to prove that this latest push is genuine. I realise he does not have to answer to posts on a "pirate" site, but I think it would be in his best interests to do so. Furthermore in the early stages of his "career" producing VN he built lots of good will with his Patreons which surely by now must have evaporated over the last 2 years or so by his mis-leading posts/actions.

I think such evidence would go a long way to prove he is genuine and all of these words being posted are not simply a con but a start to rebuild trust with his Patreons. I think he owes them this?.

My (ruthless) view is that if he is genuine, he/she should publicly come out swallow his/her pride, apologise, explain why all the mis-leading statements and evidentially show how genuine he is. To me that would be the only way to accomplish a rebuild of trust.




Cheers
 
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Hi Onyxdime:

WOW you are a lawyer and yet you find time for erotic writing. Good time management skills there.

Anyway my real reason for writing is this. There is still lots of skepticism about this being a genuine attempt to complete the game. I have to say that I'm one of those. Being that you have a communications channel with ICSTOR, and best placed to explain the extent of resentment, why not ask if he is willing to provide some evidence of substance to prove that this latest push is genuine. I realise he does not have to answer to posts on a "pirate" site, but I think it would be in his best interests to do so. Furthermore in the early stages of his "career" producing VN he built lots of good will with his Patreons which surely by now must have evaporated over the last 2 years or so by his mis-leading posts/actions.

I think such evidence would go a long way to prove he is genuine and all of these words being posted are not simply a con but a start to rebuild trust with his Patreons. I think he owes them this?.

My (ruthless) view is that if he is genuine, he/she should publicly come out swallow his/her pride, apologise, explain why all the mis-leading statements and evidentially show how genuine he is. To me that would be the only way to accomplish a rebuild of trust.




Cheers
you mean to say he's a lawyer and writes incest story games containing underaged models with tall legs
 
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Onyxdime

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Hi Onyxdime:

WOW you are a lawyer and yet you find time for erotic writing. Good time management skills there.

Anyway my real reason for writing is this. There is still lots of skepticism about this being a genuine attempt to complete the game. I have to say that I'm one of those. Being that you have a communications channel with ICSTOR, and best placed to explain the extent of resentment, why not ask if he is willing to provide some evidence of substance to prove that this latest push is genuine. I realise he does not have to answer to posts on a "pirate" site, but I think it would be in his best interests to do so. Furthermore in the early stages of his "career" producing VN he built lots of good will with his Patreons which surely by now must have evaporated over the last 2 years or so by his mis-leading posts/actions.

I think such evidence would go a long way to prove he is genuine and all of these words being posted are not simply a con but a start to rebuild trust with his Patreons. I think he owes them this?.

My (ruthless) view is that if he is genuine, he/she should publicly come out swallow his/her pride, apologise, explain why all the mis-leading statements and evidentially show how genuine he is. To me that would be the only way to accomplish a rebuild of trust.

Cheers
Difficulty varies depending on the area of law you're in. Conveyencing is godawful; but I only have a few niche clients in my current line of work. Still have to do the occassional shift to midnight, but most afternoons/evenings I have time to crack on with my writing stuff.

I understand where you're coming from; if I were in ICSTOR's position I would have paused the Patreon after the second month of realising that something was up that was preventing me from achieveing the targets. Unfortunately, I'm not ICSTOR, and the only thing which I can currently do is push the project back on track as quickly as I can from my side of things.

I genuinely believe Milfy City will be finished this time given the additional stuff I'm now doing, as well as the extra 3D artist which has been hired - so much so, that I've literally put my money where my mouth is. I'm not getting a penny out of this unless the final game releases.
 
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I've chased it up again there now with ICSTOR.

Edit: Sometime this week. I've written the text for the preview update with a list of everything that I am aware has been completed.
Question. Why does it take half a year for a whole time to create a Update on this game? There are Devs out there who by themselves are updating every single month.
 
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Question. Why does it take half a year for a whole time to create a Update on this game? There are Devs out there who by themselves are updating every single month.
My best guess is solo developers are releasing consistent small, but regular updates. There's a great game about a Magical Girl getting slowly corrupted that I've forgotten the name of now. The Dev for that does this style of update where there's always some new content each month.

From what I understand, ICSTOR is attempting to release a final version of the game with thousands of new renders and animations released in one go.
 
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you mean to say he's a lawyer and writes incest story games containing underaged models with tall legs
No, I was merely expressing surprise that as a "lawyer" he/she has time to write eroticism. I don't know what his writing interests/background are whatsoever. My understanding is that lawyers are typically very hard working people and if you work for a firm expectations are that you put in long hours. Specially if you are just starting a career in law. Likewise if you run your own law firm you would be investing lots of time to grow or simply keep the business going. I was surprised that he has time to write if he was in either of these situations. I can understand that conveyancing is mostly procedural based and thus could have time to write. Not a possibility I considered. I'm also surprised that he has some afternoons off to write, must be a godd full time job?

Cheers
 
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No, I was merely expressing surprise that as a "lawyer" he/she has time to write eroticism. I don't know what his writing interests/background are whatsoever. My understanding is that lawyers are typically very hard working people and if you work for a firm expectations are that you put in long hours. Specially if you are just starting a career in law. Likewise if you run your own law firm you would be investing lots of time to grow or simply keep the business going. I was surprised that he has time to write if he was in either of these situations. I can understand that conveyancing is mostly procedural based and thus could have time to write. Not a possibility I considered. I'm also surprised that he has some afternoons off to write, must be a godd full time job?

Cheers
The trick is to get yourself into a hyper-niche area of law and then get some public sector contracts, and maybe one or two medium-large firms/regular clients like large family farms. Then you just juggle work as and when it crops up between the three of them.

Ultimately though, my dream is to quit the law and do erotic writing/adult game development full time.
 

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My best guess is solo developers are releasing consistent small, but regular updates. There's a great game about a Magical Girl getting slowly corrupted that I've forgotten the name of now. The Dev for that does this style of update where there's always some new content each month.

From what I understand, ICSTOR is attempting to release a final version of the game with thousands of new renders and animations released in one go.
You would assume wrong. For example the game "Straitened Times" By HRELEASE is updated monthly with tons of content. Plus that game has 3 or 4 times the characters in it then Milfy City does.

Nothing you have said justifies HALF A YEAR plus. Not to mention the over a year since the last update. And you wonder why most think ICSTOR and his whole team are full of crap.
 

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The trick is to get yourself into a hyper-niche area of law and then get some public sector contracts, and maybe one or two medium-large firms/regular clients like large family farms. Then you just juggle work as and when it crops up between the three of them.

Ultimately though, my dream is to quit the law and do erotic writing/adult game development full time.
WOW nice reply.

BTW I surmised via your use of the words Contract and clients that you quite possibly run your own "Law Firm".
Reading about your aspiration makes me think that your university education in law could be wasted although it did give you a start in life (financially). In my life I had to engage lawyers several times and my conclusion after dealing with them is that they all like money. You certainly buck the trend here and all I can say is just WOW.

Should you pursue your aspiration, good luck, as it is a rather highly competitive field with lots of people burning out, and let's face it appealing to the one weakness of all males and seen as an easy way to make money.

Anyway, that's enough sarcasm from me for a while.
 

Onyxdime

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You would assume wrong. For example the game "Straitened Times" By HRELEASE is updated monthly with tons of content. Plus that game has 3 or 4 times the characters in it then Milfy City does.

Nothing you have said justifies HALF A YEAR plus. Not to mention the over a year since the last update. And you wonder why most think ICSTOR and his whole team are full of crap.
I had a look at their F95 page there; it looks like an interesting game - I'll have to add it of my growing list of ones to play.

If you take a look at the changelog it says they added "60 images", "80 images", "90 images", "60 images" etc. These are consistent smaller updates, like I was referring to. The quantity of images that I've been given to write for Judy alone so far appears to be similar in size (at a quick estimation) to the combined progress of 0.20 to 0.32 of Straightened Times.
 
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I had a look at their F95 page there; it looks like an interesting game - I'll have to add it of my growing list of ones to play.

If you take a look at the changelog it says they added "60 images", "80 images", "90 images", "60 images" etc. These are consistent smaller updates, like I was referring to. The quantity of images that I've been given to write for Judy alone so far appears to be similar in size (at a quick estimation) to the combined progress of 0.20 to 0.32 of Straightened Times.
But that is 1 guy in a month. Your group is a TEAM. So why should you need 6 plus months. Plus your team is already delaying the game. Sure sounds like BS just to keep people supporting ICSTOR. And getting Nothing in return.
 
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Onyxdime

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But that is 1 guy in a month. Your group is a TEAM. So why should you need 6 plus months. Plus your team is already delaying the game. Sure sounds like BS just to keep people supporting ICSTOR. And getting Nothing in return.
It is, and he's doing a fantastic job based on the renders I've seen so far.

In terms of the team here, I was brought on board in a larger role to help the project keep moving as of about 6 weeks ago.
Since that happened I have:
  1. Finished Judy's scenes;
  2. Organised a job competition for ICSTOR for new 3D artists;
  3. Interviewed 15+ people who applied for the roles and recommended those who passed the interivew to ICSTOR;
  4. Drafted scripts for various background characters such as the pool girl and had them cleared by ICSTOR; and
  5. Drafted scripts and plot conclusions for main characters such as Liza & Yazmin.
  6. Additionally, as of last week, ICSTOR has finished training the new 3D artist and I have seen the first batches of images that they have created based on the scripts that had been drafted.
I am presently reviewing scripts sent across by ICSTOR for planned endings for major characters, and suggesting amendments to these.

What I haven't achieved yet is sorting out some kind of regular guarantee that previews will be posted at regular intervals. I'm working on that behind the scenes right now.
 
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My best guess is solo developers are releasing consistent small, but regular updates.
In the time since the last update I have made my entire game. While I hate doing the image count, its in the 5000+ range, plus 600 animation files (id guess 2/3rds are unique, and the other 1/3rd are alternate angles).

OBVIOUSLY quality has a lot to do with with. but im not pumping out garbage.

If there was the idea that this team had been working for that time, I would expect to see my game's amount of content (multiplied by X number of developers) in the next update alone. I'm just saying, I personally do not believe there has been consistent development on this project.

I know there is this other game in the works, but until something materializes I don't really see it as a viable excuse. Again, maybe ill be wrong, surprised, and blown away by this next update (I hope this is the case). But I'm really not banking on it
 

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Honestly I cannot believe you guys buying all this crap!!
ICSTOR is a scammer!!
Onyx, you say you are a lawyer, so be a lawyer and show us some irrefutable proof that all the bullshit you are telling us about this game is true!!
Otherwise it will be just a far fetched story that no court will buy.
 
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