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mattius77

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May 16, 2017
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Once again, we're at a place where people think they're buying some tangible good/service with their Patreon support. That's not how it works.

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I do not see anything in there that even hints at a this-for-that kind of exchange, or a promise to deliver X content by Y date. The closest it gets is the statement: "If you like the design, please don't hesitate to pledge and help us continue working on it!" Which is about how I regard Patreon.... if I like the cut of some creator's jib, I'll throw them some money. (Narrator: He does not throw any of them any money.)

If you have the idea that you're paying for specific sorts of content delivery, you are the wacked out one. Not the dev. But I guess if you get 4,000 people who think they're paying for something specific and that when that something isn't delivered on their timeline a more effective form of protest is to complain about it online rather than discontinue their financial support, well........... more power to the dev.
 

Thekingofdope

Newbie
Apr 8, 2019
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Once again, we're at a place where people think they're buying some tangible good/service with their Patreon support. That's not how it works.

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I do not see anything in there that even hints at a this-for-that kind of exchange, or a promise to deliver X content by Y date. The closest it gets is the statement: "If you like the design, please don't hesitate to pledge and help us continue working on it!" Which is about how I regard Patreon.... if I like the cut of some creator's jib, I'll throw them some money. (Narrator: He does not throw any of them any money.)

If you have the idea that you're paying for specific sorts of content delivery, you are the wacked out one. Not the dev. But I guess if you get 4,000 people who think they're paying for something specific and that when that something isn't delivered on their timeline a more effective form of protest is to complain about it online rather than discontinue their financial support, well........... more power to the dev.
I dont know, but if people are stupid enough to hang around, then let them. I personally think, a bunch of his subs are people that just found the game, and then sub to patreon to support, and then it takes them a few months to figure out he does nothing, and then they unsub, and this just keeps going on. I assume its not the same 4.000 people that are subbed. God i hope not, honestly i was subbed for 4 months, so i essentially payed 4 dollars for this game, which for me is a bargain.
 

mattius77

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May 16, 2017
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Yeah, I agree with you Thekingofdope . Except if he's been at the 4,000 sub mark for a long while, I think that would be indicative of them being largely the same 4,000 people month after month. I don't think it would be likely that the dropoffs would be almost exactly offset by the pickups month in and month out, not for a game that's been in a pretty much static state for two years now.
 

PLAYER9821452

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Jun 20, 2023
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Just follow what the Dev does and create a Patreon page and scam people for nothing.
i was talking about money ingame .. idc about your conv about patreon and those things .. nothing will change the author's mind .. so just enjoy the game the way it is
 

bigpenniser

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Aug 7, 2016
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Once again, we're at a place where people think they're buying some tangible good/service with their Patreon support. That's not how it works.

Here is Icstor's Patreon tier breakdown:

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I do not see anything in there that even hints at a this-for-that kind of exchange, or a promise to deliver X content by Y date. The closest it gets is the statement: "If you like the design, please don't hesitate to pledge and help us continue working on it!" Which is about how I regard Patreon.... if I like the cut of some creator's jib, I'll throw them some money. (Narrator: He does not throw any of them any money.)

If you have the idea that you're paying for specific sorts of content delivery, you are the wacked out one. Not the dev. But I guess if you get 4,000 people who think they're paying for something specific and that when that something isn't delivered on their timeline a more effective form of protest is to complain about it online rather than discontinue their financial support, well........... more power to the dev.
>Regular updates about the upcoming version
There, easy sue
No one will, but they can
 
  • Thinking Face
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Dec 24, 2018
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anyone interested in playing a game? taking guesses as to how icstor and team intend to continue this scam without releasing a game. the usual comments are getting far too boring now.

my first guess is that onyxdime is gonna come back at a later point and claim that he received more new renders to write the dialogues for. the harem ending and more caroline content come to mind since he's been pretty explicit about the lack of either in the alleged final version.

the best lies are always ones built on truths. just because he's said certain things that are true doesn't mean everything he says is the truth. he's very smart with his lies in that way. have to hand it to them.
We will probably just get a brand new person shilling here because by the time they lose enough subscribers that they need to start shilling to the community again they probably won't send Onyxdime back because no one will trust him that time around. First it was baron, then it was onyxdime, and who knows who it will be next.
 

Thekingofdope

Newbie
Apr 8, 2019
25
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Yeah, I agree with you Thekingofdope . Except if he's been at the 4,000 sub mark for a long while, I think that would be indicative of them being largely the same 4,000 people month after month. I don't think it would be likely that the dropoffs would be almost exactly offset by the pickups month in and month out, not for a game that's been in a pretty much static state for two years now.
Could be true, but if people wanna support the man, they should have realised by now, that he is not updating this game at a reasonable pace, if he even is going to. I hope he or she will, since i enjoy this game.
 

JiiEf

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Aug 1, 2019
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This game was made with Genesis3 models, while most of games released today use Genesis 7, 8 and even 9, that's why game looks older.
Genesis 7 does not exist. Genesis 8 is the generation following Genesis 3 and the differences are minor. Victoria 7 etc. are Genesis 3 characters.

The game looks older because ICSTOR uses a different (older) renderer from what most/all the current authors do (iray).

Here's a quick and dirty iray Celia I did and I'm not even using the most advanced skin or hair shaders here. Fanart thread has examples that show what you can do with the same assets.
Celia 230726.jpg
 

GhostFaceGuy

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Sep 16, 2019
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We will probably just get a brand new person shilling here because by the time they lose enough subscribers that they need to start shilling to the community again they probably won't send Onyxdime back because no one will trust him that time around. First it was baron, then it was onyxdime, and who knows who it will be next.
I wonder what the next story to sell here they think next time
 

mattius77

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May 16, 2017
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>Regular updates about the upcoming version
There, easy sue
No one will, but they can
That's............................................................................ I was going to write more, but I'll just leave it with "that's not how it works, that's not how any of this works" and go on about my day.
 

bigpenniser

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Aug 7, 2016
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That's............................................................................ I was going to write more, but I'll just leave it with "that's not how it works, that's not how any of this works" and go on about my day.
It is where I live, and most of the world
I couldnt give less of a shit how it does where you live tbh
But then again you are probably one of those people that just think the ToS are worth shit because it is written so it must be true, you were not going to write more because you are clueless
 
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