manneychin

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May 8, 2017
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Any sleep sex due to non-consent.
Celia's entire route due to heavy themes of non-consent.
The neighbours because they considered it to be wrong for the lesbian woman to try and convert a non-lesbian.
Any reference to "teen" for Sara.
References to Sara's inexperence with sex have to be removed.
Any reference to familial relations had to be removed due to incest. Linda became a landlady, Sara and Caroline became tenants, Bob became the landlady's husband.

That's just off the top of my head from what I remember. From a creative standpoint it was fucking brutal.

It's worth caveating that Patreon takes their instructions on what content is suitable from their payment processors - like Visa and Mastercard.

If this is true, to me the result is not worth touching. I'm punching out and checking in again in 1 year. We'll see what's what by then. The game would require a mythical modder, not only technically capable but, more importantly, also capable of adjusting dialogues (including adding) to make the game interesting again to its original fan base. The chance someone suitable will happen do that, and for free, is smaller than ICSTOR sticking to his promises. Sad.
 

Orgitas

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If this is true, to me the result is not worth touching. I'm punching out and checking in again in 1 year. We'll see what's what by then. The game would require a mythical modder, not only technically capable but, more importantly, also capable of adjusting dialogues (including adding) to make the game interesting again to its original fan base. The chance someone suitable will happen do that, and for free, is smaller than ICSTOR sticking to his promises. Sad.
Give it two years, I feel the state the game will be in it will need working from the ground up after Oxy and Icstor are done mutilating it.
 

Onyxdime

Smutlord
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Jul 26, 2017
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If this is true, to me the result is not worth touching. I'm punching out and checking in again in 1 year. We'll see what's what by then. The game would require a mythical modder, not only technically capable but, more importantly, also capable of adjusting dialogues (including adding) to make the game interesting again to its original fan base. The chance someone suitable will happen do that, and for free, is smaller than ICSTOR sticking to his promises. Sad.
There's rumours that pirates are planning to release a patch that would restore certain content. Pirates work very fast. I would say that they'll probably get something sorted for the community within hours of the game releasing.

They're nefarious like that.
 

AMUR48

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There's rumours that pirates are planning to release a patch that would restore certain content. Pirates work very fast. I would say that they'll probably get something sorted for the community within hours of the game releasing.

They're nefarious like that.
the question is why you can’t make a patch on it and throw it in and everyone will be happy, many developers do this, otherwise it turns out that we won’t see half of the content that was planned or deleted
 

Onyxdime

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the question is why you can’t make a patch on it and throw it in and everyone will be happy, many developers do this, otherwise it turns out that we won’t see half of the content that was planned or deleted
There have been very clear instructions from Patreon that there cannot be an official patch which restores forbidden content. Even if the patch is hosted on another website, such as ICSTOR's own site.

Which is why it's down to pirates to restore the content.
 

AMUR48

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Jun 24, 2018
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There have been very clear instructions from Patreon that there cannot be an official patch which restores forbidden content. Even if the patch is hosted on another website, such as ICSTOR's own site.

Which is why it's down to pirates to restore the content.
if it is restored to feast in which I do not doubt why the patreon will think that it is not you, you simply will not spread it where, does that mean it's not you?I'm afraid that a lot of content will be deleted, let's say now it turns out that there won't be a harem, although it was planned, in fact this game is popular due to interest, yes there is a lot of that here and a horash story (thank you)and animation, but the incent genre is very popular,patreon fucked up the sticks in the wheels, you need to leave him and release the content that you conceived as it is, I know that at the moment it is not possible to leave due to the fact that there are a lot of sponsors, but maybe someday
 

manneychin

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There's rumours that pirates are planning to release a patch that would restore certain content. Pirates work very fast. I would say that they'll probably get something sorted for the community within hours of the game releasing.

They're nefarious like that.
It would be a happy coincidence because only OG pirates can realistically provide the story flavor that's being taken out. Virgin modders, while often technically capable, are vanishingly rare also capable of story adjustments (especially enrichments). The result is the disaster that Summertime Saga + incest patch has become. You don't get that kinky incest taboo by simply find&replacing a few words.
 
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Any sleep sex due to non-consent.
Celia's entire route due to heavy themes of non-consent.
The neighbours because they considered it to be wrong for the lesbian woman to try and convert a non-lesbian.
Any reference to "teen" for Sara.
References to Sara's inexperence with sex have to be removed.
Any reference to familial relations had to be removed due to incest. Linda became a landlady, Sara and Caroline became tenants, Bob became the landlady's husband.

That's just off the top of my head from what I remember. From a creative standpoint it was fucking brutal.

It's worth caveating that Patreon takes their instructions on what content is suitable from their payment processors - like Visa and Mastercard.

I still dont understand how other games on patreon are puting out all these censored content in their own games...
 
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Orgitas

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I still dont understand how other games on patreon are puting out all these censored content in their own games...
Best to take what paid employees of Icstor say with a pinch of salt. It is easy to do an I-patch and upload it anonymously elsewhere. But they continue to hold onto this myth that they can't. Otherwise, using their own logic, if any one made an I-patch Patreon would take down their game.
 
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Onyxdime

Smutlord
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I still dont understand how other games on patreon are puting out all these censored content in their own games...
ICSTOR got flagged. Once you get flagged they start watching you much more closely.

Other Patreon accounts have also been flagged and taken down.

Cases in point:
Summertime Saga
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Dating my Daughter:


Big Brother:

"
Today is January 27, one year anniversary of Big Brother on Patreon. We had very productive year, our game has earned a lot of followers and we had a lot of plans for it in the future. But, unfortunately, Patreon has decided it doesn't want incest content on their website anymore. First we couldn't mention it in the description, then we couldn't have any adult content on our page for non-subscribers and now our game is banned altogether. And we can't cut out incest out of the game to unlock our page either, so here's what's going to happen in the near future:
  1. We're still going to finish 0.13. We won't get any money for it and it's going to be free (you'll find it on the torrent sites, there will be links on discord and telegram, etc.). 0.13 is going to be released on time because a lot of players are waiting for it.
2. Big Brother is going to be frozen and 0.13 is going to be considered a final version of the game for now. We may continue BB development if we find an alternative to Patreon.
3. Our Patreon page is going to be completely reworked and restarted without Big Brother.
4. Our team is going to start working on our new project Glamour full time. You'll know more about it on our new updated Patreon page.
5. We're going to continue giving you regular updates. New screenshots, gameplay mechanics description, interface, etc. We love making adult games and we're going to continue making them, regardless of the temporary setbacks. Stay tuned!
-Dark Silver"
 

Caraviaa

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There's rumours that pirates are planning to release a patch that would restore certain content. Pirates work very fast. I would say that they'll probably get something sorted for the community within hours of the game releasing.

They're nefarious like that.
What about the 3-day earlier beta access from patreon? doesn't seem worth it if the evil pirates don't release their patch by then
 

Dynamite20

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Jun 9, 2021
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Any sleep sex due to non-consent.
Celia's entire route due to heavy themes of non-consent.
The neighbours because they considered it to be wrong for the lesbian woman to try and convert a non-lesbian.
Any reference to "teen" for Sara.
References to Sara's inexperence with sex have to be removed.
Any reference to familial relations had to be removed due to incest. Linda became a landlady, Sara and Caroline became tenants, Bob became the landlady's husband.

That's just off the top of my head from what I remember. From a creative standpoint it was fucking brutal.

It's worth caveating that Patreon takes their instructions on what content is suitable from their payment processors - like Visa and Mastercard.

I have to agree with you that's brutal, so for them the whole game is wrong, this is stupid

At first I thought that it was the law that hold the Patreon and forbited all incest content I didnt know that they take intructions from Visa and Mastercard

To my knowledge I think that the Visa and Mastercard thing started when the Pornhub accusations started
my opinion I think that its good that they are taking some actions because Pornhub was taking a nap when some users uploaded stuff that they shouldn't upload and there are victims that exists because of some assholes that decided to ruin those victims lifes but this affects other creators who are making a living out of porn videos or games or even animations

I mean I dont see how a game on patreon lets say Milfy city will make any harm even with the incest content they are not taking real people and expose them to porn the same shit was going on when Mortal Kombat was first released some people creamed their pants because they thought that their kids playing the game will become murderers
Cases in point:
Summertime Saga
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I don't see how Summertime Saga effect the rules of the Patreon I mean they took out the incest content this game doesn't have rape or sleeping sex not a non concent so why they are reviewing DC I dont understant a thing
 

S.T.A.R.S.

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Oct 28, 2018
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Any sleep sex due to non-consent.
Celia's entire route due to heavy themes of non-consent.
The neighbours because they considered it to be wrong for the lesbian woman to try and convert a non-lesbian.
Any reference to "teen" for Sara.
References to Sara's inexperence with sex have to be removed.
Any reference to familial relations had to be removed due to incest. Linda became a landlady, Sara and Caroline became tenants, Bob became the landlady's husband.

That's just off the top of my head from what I remember. From a creative standpoint it was fucking brutal.

It's worth caveating that Patreon takes their instructions on what content is suitable from their payment processors - like Visa and Mastercard.

Were neighbours and Celia removed or just revised? That was a substantial portion of the game.
 

Onyxdime

Smutlord
Game Developer
Jul 26, 2017
821
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Were neighbours and Celia removed or just revised? That was a substantial portion of the game.
The neighbours were removed as 100% of their story violated Patreon's terms of service.

Celia has been extensively, extensively, extensively reworked to get her back in.]

Pirates will probably upload a version that has her original theme. It's like whackamole. You take down one pirate uploading a rule-breaking mod, and five more appear.

At first I thought that it was the law that hold the Patreon and forbited all incest content I didnt know that they take intructions from Visa and Mastercard
I can only speak for the UK, but there is no legislation which bans the production of art depiticting incest, provided the participants are adults.

The seminal legal case on the issue is where a British man produced a work depicting the rape and murder of the pop group Girls Aloud. He was charged under the under the claim that his work could accidentally and easily be found by young fans of Girls Aloud. The court found that he was not guilty as his work had been suitably hidden from the reach of minors. e.g. behind an 18+ warning, and also not appearing unless people were speciifically searching for guro content.

In terms of Mastercard and Visa, they are private businesses who have elected not to process financial transactions for a large segment of the erotic industry. This really hurts adult content creators as it becomes much more diffcult to pay and recevie payments without Mastercard or Visa to faciliate transfers of money.
 
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Dynamite20

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Jun 9, 2021
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There have been very clear instructions from Patreon that there cannot be an official patch which restores forbidden content. Even if the patch is hosted on another website, such as ICSTOR's own site.

Which is why it's down to pirates to restore the content.
Question does Subscribe star also have the same rules as Patreon or they are more free to those rules?
 

Orgitas

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Jan 5, 2023
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Were neighbours and Celia removed or just revised? That was a substantial portion of the game.
Don't worry often is the case the pirates, and modders, can often do a better job writing. so best to leave the game for a while and hopefully some one more competent can complete it.
 
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