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Morpheas

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I wish ICSTOR hadnt completely killed off my desire to play this game by ruining Sarah's story with all that anal bullshit.
"Oh it hurts me a lot, but I'm doing this to please you. No I am not ready for vaginal yet."

This is completely retarded, what kind of girl does that?
Its not just unrealistic and stupid, it also kills off the mood and made me feel like an asshole (pun intended) for hurting Sarah.

Feel free to criticize my opinion all you want.
 

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@Morpheas It did make me pause at first too, and I tried to mentally justify it as she has no idea what she talking about/getting into. Having to buy her a toy helped with that a bit, but I still felt guilty regardless. Almost wish MC had explained that that usually comes after losing your virginity
 
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I wish ICSTOR hadnt completely killed off my desire to play this game by ruining Sarah's story with all that anal bullshit.
"Oh it hurts me a lot, but I'm doing this to please you. No I am not ready for vaginal yet."
Agreed it felt forced and out of place given the progress of the game.


This is completely retarded, what kind of girl does that?
You'd be surprised.
 

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@Thermophob That's assuming if one considers aging a bad thing. I myself find it very sexy if a woman ages gracefully (as in not going under the knife and all) but takes good care of herself, so me personally, despite the Mom being twice the MC's age, I don't see it as a bad thing that the mom is a bit older. The reason why I would say that an older woman in this case is a better investment is because she's experienced, she knows what she wants, girls on the other hand don't and they're fickle, very fickle.
Well, I didn't want to open that can of worms. This is simple game, and no need to theorize a lot in depth. In end, I think this game shows young teenage dickhead who ruins his own family fortune for piece of bleeched blonde arse. Because, he doesn't have like four available pusssies around.
 

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@Thermophob Well, that's of course if you play the story that route, you can of course choose not to sabotage the Dad's company, but I think the idea with these games is to explore every turn. But you're right though, the MC is a bit of a douche, even in the Sara's love path he's constantly bringing up sex, like what the hell, can't he tell that she's insecure and shy, in large because she's still a virgin and she's inexperienced and she's not comfortable in her own body? The MC would be better off reassuring her first, make her comfortable and happy, the rest will come down the road on their own, he should let HER bring up the topic of sex. And then there are the nightly "explorations", sneaking into the sisters rooms and basically molesting them in their sleep, and while that is completely optional, I think it's still disturbing and off-putting, and MC being a teenager isn't exactly a good excuse for that behavior, not if he has any morals and genuine love and care and above all, respect for those he claim to love. So yeah, it's something I don't like, but I play the stories trying my level best to minimize all that shit and just be as affectionate and loving the game lets me be, haha.
 
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3000 patrons wow. to think when ICSTOR got started on this game he barely had 1100. i think he’ll hit 4000 with the next release and maybe get to the goal of producing full animated sex scenes. that should be a delight :FeelsGoodMan::FeelsGoodMan::FeelsGoodMan:
 

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I wish ICSTOR hadnt completely killed off my desire to play this game by ruining Sarah's story with all that anal bullshit.
"Oh it hurts me a lot, but I'm doing this to please you. No I am not ready for vaginal yet."

This is completely retarded, what kind of girl does that?
Its not just unrealistic and stupid, it also kills off the mood and made me feel like an asshole (pun intended) for hurting Sarah.

Feel free to criticize my opinion all you want.
I'm not going to criticize your opinion of the game, but I'll point out that this is not nearly as unrealistic as you think. The world over, most commonly with Catholics in Europe and South America, young women engage in anal sex to preserve their virginity until marriage. In America, it's called or

So to answer you question... What kind of girl does that? Millions of girls worldwide.
Or look here at this more


ETA to add a link above from the US National Institute of Health and also because the initial post said "realistic" for about 5 minutes, which would have been confusing :)

ETA 2 Some choice quotes from the Poophole Loophole article in the spoiler:
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Morpheas

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I'm not going to criticize your opinion of the game, but I'll point out that this is not nearly as unrealistic as you think. The world over, most commonly with Catholics in Europe and South America, young women engage in anal sex to preserve their virginity until marriage. In America, it's called .

So to answer you question... What kind of girl does that? Millions of girls worldwide.


ETA to add a link above from the US National Institute of Health and also because the initial post said "realistic" for about 5 minutes, which would have been confusing :)
I almost commented to correct you on the "realistic" part, but you edited your post literally just now.

Anyways, it doesnt matter how many people do that. And thank you for the correction on how often this does happen.
Btw, millions isnt really a big number when the global human population is at 7.5 billion and rising, but whatever.

What matters, is that anyone who does that is a moron, especially if the reasons for doing so are entirely or primarily religious.
"Jesus said I cant have sex before marriage. Well, if I have anal sex, that doesnt count, riiiight? Yeah, Jesus is ok with my asshole being penetrated while I'm unmarried. But my pussy is only for my future husband!"

Just sheer stupidity, it doesnt even make logical sense. Its not even bending the rules, its accepting a some inconsequential rule, and then pretending its something different than what it is.

This is equivalent to being accused of verbally abusing somebody, and you saying "I didnt cuss them, I simply told them they should drop dead."

In any case, there's no point arguing about this. I would never date a girl that has so little self-respect that she is willing to do something painful and unpleasant just to give me pleasure anyway.
Its despicable and deserves no respect.

I for one have more respect for my partner than this, and I think this is true for most people as well.
 

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I almost commented to correct you on the "realistic" part, but you edited your post literally just now.

Anyways, it doesnt matter how many people do that. And thank you for the correction on how often this does happen.
Btw, millions isnt really a big number when the global human population is at 7.5 billion and rising, but whatever.

What matters, is that anyone who does that is a moron, especially if the reasons for doing so are entirely or primarily religious.
"Jesus said I cant have sex before marriage. Well, if I have anal sex, that doesnt count, riiiight? Yeah, Jesus is ok with my asshole being penetrated while I'm unmarried. But my pussy is only for my future husband!"

Just sheer stupidity, it doesnt even make logical sense. Its not even bending the rules, its accepting a some inconsequential rule, and then pretending its something different than what it is.

This is equivalent to being accused of verbally abusing somebody, and you saying "I didnt cuss them, I simply told them they should drop dead."

In any case, there's no point arguing about this. I would never date a girl that has so little self-respect that she is willing to do something painful and unpleasant just to give me pleasure anyway.
Its despicable and deserves no respect.

I for one have more respect for my partner than this, and I think this is true for most people as well.
Well said. I agree with most of this. Millions isn't a big number considering there are almost 4 billion females on the planet, yes. More importantly, I completely agree that this is stupid. But if you were to rank stupid shit people did for religious or even social-norm reasons, it's pretty low on the list :). And, tbh, Sarah isn't the sharpest tool in the shed... I'm only mentioning that because it didn't ruin the game for me because she was using a stupid reason to have anal sex. I guess that's the difference in opinion, but I hope you see that I don't disrespect the reasons for you opinion.

A lot of porn games, and one could make a case that especially ICSTOR's games, treat women as if girls are simply life-support systems for the pussy. IRL I also would have serious doubts about the mental capacity/stability of a girl who is willing to do "something painful and unpleasant just to give me pleasure" (again, well said!). I guess my main point is that this scene didn't take me out of the game because 1) You have to set your bar pretty low from the beginning in terms of the authenticity of the girls, especially from a respect/sympathy standpoint, and 2) While I rolled my eyes at this scene, I kind of laughed because I imagined the dev being very aware of how dumb it is of a girl to think this way, which is kind of the point... I'm honestly not a misogynist in real life, but you have to have a fetish for blatant misogyny to enjoy this game and games like it where the women are presented as dumb and treated as objects rather than people.
 

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I'm not going to criticize your opinion of the game, but I'll point out that this is not nearly as unrealistic as you think. The world over, most commonly with Catholics in Europe and South America, young women engage in anal sex to preserve their virginity until marriage. In America, it's called .

So to answer you question... What kind of girl does that? Millions of girls worldwide.
Or look here at this more


ETA to add a link above from the US National Institute of Health and also because the initial post said "realistic" for about 5 minutes, which would have been confusing :)
Btw, did Sarah not want to lose her virginity in order to preserve it for marriage?
No thats not the reason she gives. Therefore, the statistics you brought seem to be mostly irrelevant.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, most couples dont do that. In most cases, anal sex comes long after vaginal sex has occurred multiple times.

It doesnt matter if you can prove that millions engage in anal sex even though they are technically virgins.
It is just not relevant.
 
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Morpheas

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Well said. I agree with most of this. Millions isn't a big number considering there are almost 4 billion females on the planet, yes. More importantly, I completely agree that this is stupid. But if you were to rank stupid shit people did for religious or even social-norm reasons, it's pretty low on the list :). And, tbh, Sarah isn't the sharpest tool in the shed... I'm only mentioning that because it didn't ruin the game for me because she was using a stupid reason to have anal sex. I guess that's the difference in opinion, but I hope you see that I don't disrespect the reasons for you opinion.

A lot of porn games, and one could make a case that especially ICSTOR's games, treat women as if girls are simply life-support systems for the pussy. IRL I also would have serious doubts about the mental capacity/stability of a girl who is willing to do "something painful and unpleasant just to give me pleasure" (again, well said!). I guess my main point is that this scene didn't take me out of the game because 1) You have to set your bar pretty low from the beginning in terms of the authenticity of the girls, especially from a respect/sympathy standpoint, and 2) While I rolled my eyes at this scene, I kind of laughed because I imagined the dev being very aware of how dumb it is of a girl to think this way, which is kind of the point... I'm honestly not a misogynist in real life, but you have to have a fetish for blatant misogyny to enjoy this game and games like it where the women are presented as dumb and treated as objects rather than people.
Fair points, I dont have any strong disagreements here.

For me, the bar wasnt set that low for Sarah, because she seemed to be out of the norm than what we see in these games.
It seemed like she was a sweet girl with actual self-respect, but I either fooled myself like an idiot and didnt pick up on the clues and let my imagination tell the story for me, OR I got fooled by the dev because the clues he put there were misleading.
Or a combination of both somehow?

Whatever the case may be, the mental image I had of this character (Sarah) has changed, and unfortunately for the worse. This is why I said that he "ruined Sarah's story".

I expected something different.

(For anyone else who might be reading this, dont take my freakin' opinion as a guide to whether or not you will enjoy the game. Not only I am talking about a very specific part of the game, but also we dont have the same sensibilities and preferences.)
 
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