DownTheDrain

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It's not entitlement to be pissed off at someone who consistently lies. Get off of your high horse. Anyone with a brain has stopped donating to his patreon at this point and won't donate again until he proves he's capable of putting out consistent updates.
No horses here, high or otherwise.
Again, if you're a patron you're barking up the wrong tree. If you're not then ICSTOR lying, not lying, delaying, doing whatever the fuck doesn't really give you the right to anything. It's like you're bitching about free donuts because they didn't come in your favorite flavor.

Here's a tip to Dev's who are bored of putting out the same content: Stop riding your patreon for money and make something new that people would want to pay for. Your donators don't care if you're bored or not, they care about you putting out a product. Sure, it's under the guise of "donations" but you, I and everyone else knows they're donating so you'll continue to make content. If you're not making anything then what's the goddamn point?
Uh huh.
That'll sure teach all those greedy patreon devs avidly following this thread.
 

Dan Flashes

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No horses here, high or otherwise.
Again, if you're a patron you're barking up the wrong tree. If you're not then ICSTOR lying, not lying, delaying, doing whatever the fuck doesn't really give you the right to anything. It's like you're bitching about free donuts because they didn't come in your favorite flavor.



Uh huh.
That'll sure teach all those greedy patreon devs avidly following this thread.
No one is complaining about their right to anything. We're merely criticizing the dev because he clearly sucks at his job. What part of that aren't you getting? It's a forum, people bitch, this time it just so happens to be for a pretty solid reason. Move along if you don't like it.
 

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So is it too trolley to suggest this will be a Halloween update?

But to be fair how many bugs can their be? is it a case of fix one make a new one, i thought ren'py was pretty kind that way, at least it has been in my experience though to be fair I've never programmed anything as big as this.
 
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DownTheDrain

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We're merely criticizing the dev because he clearly sucks at his job.
Sure, the guy sucks so much that this ended up being basically the most popular game ever on F95.
If anything you're criticizing because he's currently not doing his job which he happens to be pretty damn good at, judging by his game's popularity.

What part of that aren't you getting? It's a forum, people bitch, this time it just so happens to be for a pretty solid reason. Move along if you don't like it.
You're free to bitch, I'm free to call you out on it being entirely pointless.
If you disagree with my posts just ignore me, or use the silly facepalm reaction like that other dude.
 

Dan Flashes

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Sure, the guy sucks so much that this ended up being basically the most popular game ever on F95.
If anything you're criticizing because he's currently not doing his job which he happens to be pretty damn good at, judging by his game's popularity.



You're free to bitch, I'm free to call you out on it being entirely pointless.
If you disagree with my posts just ignore me, or use the silly facepalm reaction like that other dude.
He missed deadlines, objectively speaking that's failure, can't spin it any other way whether you want to or not.

Your bitching about our bitching is pretty pointless too, still don't see what point you're trying to make?
 

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Sure, the guy sucks so much that this ended up being basically the most popular game ever on F95.
If anything you're criticizing because he's currently not doing his job which he happens to be pretty damn good at, judging by his game's popularity.



You're free to bitch, I'm free to call you out on it being entirely pointless.
If you disagree with my posts just ignore me, or use the silly facepalm reaction like that other dude.
Is there a point to bitching about bitching though?
 

Bismo

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On a sidenote, how do you even manage to implement "game-breaking bugs" in renpy???
Its a fucking vn-engine.
 
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JoeBanks

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On a sidenote, how do you even manage to implement "game-breaking bugs" in renpy???
Its a fucking vn-engine.
You try to implement non-VN things.... ie, outside of renpy. Renpy itself does actually have a lot of bugs, most can be worked around.

Generally speaking though, we can resolve all our game breaking bugs in a day. (Depends on the level of programmer, ours patches renpy when something's broken in it)
 
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S.T.A.R.S.

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On a sidenote, how do you even manage to implement "game-breaking bugs" in renpy???
Its a fucking vn-engine.
I haven't used gui, but if you miss any letter in your assigned variable game breaks. Personally i just don't believe that they had so much game-breaking bugs, the only thing they had to do was copy-paste their code and yet they screwed that part up
 

DownTheDrain

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He might read it, I think many devs do out of curiosity, but a lot probably shy away after getting flamed. :D

I just enjoy the suffering.
Devs that are starting out or need help, definitely. Considering we're a bunch of filthy freeloaders F95 actually provides some decent feedback. Unless your game features non-optional NTR or is strictly gay.

A well-established dev, with 7k+ patrons, who's very much behind schedule probably won't venture into a fast-moving 1500 pages thread on a pirate page, especially when it's been a bitchfest for a while.
 

JoeBanks

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Devs that are starting out or need help, definitely. Considering we're a bunch of filthy freeloaders F95 actually provides some decent feedback. Unless your game features non-optional NTR or is strictly gay.

A well-established dev, with 7k+ patrons, who's very much behind on his deadline probably won't venture into a fast-moving 1500 pages thread on a pirate page, especially when it's been a bitchfest for a while.
Maybe not, but I would never want to ride some money train without getting everyone's input. You can say the it's a bunch of freeloaders, but that's not always the case and in some rare scenarios, people give really good feedback.

Also, as a whole, knowing what the general population wants to see in a game is a good thing. You can't get new customers if you don't figure out the reasons why other people hate your game.
 

DownTheDrain

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Maybe not, but I would never want to ride some money train without getting everyone's input. You can say the it's a bunch of freeloaders, but that's not always the case and in some rare scenarios, people give really good feedback.

Also, as a whole, knowing what the general population wants to see in a game is a good thing. You can't get new customers if you don't figure out the reasons why other people hate your game.
I agree in general but I'm pretty sure ICSTOR is way past the point of getting feedback from the general public and finding out what people like to see.

You probably know his previous works, he's done the exact same scenario a bunch of times now and it sells well. He's gotten a lot of shit about his MCs being uber-creepy rapist kids in the past and worked on that in Milfy City.
I'd be very surprised if he changed a thing besides more animations and fine-tuning the gameplay and visuals in this or any future title.
 

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It’s real simple. He probably slacked off a lot and procrastinated, and each time he approached a looming deadline had to come up with an excuse for the delay. Eventually people catch on when something takes so long but there is too little work to show for it. You’ll get the same story I just told from anyone who has ever been a supervisor in a workplace.
 

dudunin

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So .... Not that I don't care about the donor and other guy little argument but what was saying ICSTOR in his last message is that the game v0.6 will be playable for this week-end ? If so, there is no animations is that right? So for example, the scene where Mom moves her feet (the footjob) there is no animation to see her moving her feet? Is that no animations for new scenes or for all scenes?

OR CAN we assume he's lying and there is no update? ( I assume he did lie previously but it was so obvious we don't need to remember that .... )

Oh and for that shitty argument, yeah people are in right to complain, I mean there are the guys who say " he can do everything he want with his money etc." So, now you cannot say to people, hey don't do that, don't complain....

This website and community is doing its job aka saying this guy is a scam, he lied too many times and conned for so many K dollars. Maybe to continue in the future his scam he'll provide us some updates .... but it is still a scam. Yeah I enjoy it but it is because I didn't get scammed for a few scenes.
 
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