Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[Evangelion-01]

With how things are... given there is ALOT of content to work through as it is with ANIMATED sex scenes, I feel people have gotten decent value for their patronage atm... but it seems you don't and I can agree that you DO have a valid point about not closing things out for the fans who have supported the dev. At some point, you need to try to work through it and beat the feeling of burnout and run with it... but then again, this is how I would react...

...Let me answer this ICStor style
"I am burned out from this conversation"
He used to Update the game with little more than a few month in between for until 0.4, than it gradually took him longer...
0.6 took him an entire year and had roughly about the same amount of content than the previous game releases... he took a 2 month holiday from the game at that time (admitting to it) while stateting the game was 60% complete... even half a year later nothing had been done and he stated the release was about 40% done.
Eventually he released a game version without any animations and another 3-4 month later he finally released 0.6e withh all animations (he had claimed to have worked on some real animations instead of 3-4 picture loops, but that's what everyone got).
Now we are close to the previous deadline and already know that the claimed 80% complete are a big pile of excrements.
ICStor is working on another project and Milfy City lies bleeding...

 

[Kulman]

I still think this should be suable... Patreon developed games need to have a failsafe.

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

I still think this should be suable... Patreon developed games need to have a failsafe.

Except it's all freely given money and never once promised a product. Patrons are supporters/backers. He's not on a payroll.
If he was a game company that promised a game using the public's money, then he would be liable to be sued for damages.
Nobody on Patreon is liable for anyone's lost money.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he's using $1 bills as toilet paper.

If you want, you can contact Patreon about his supposed breaches of contract. See if they care enough. They're making pots of money off his pots of money. And Patreon LOVES pots of money.
Sure, if enough people complain, they'll take notice. But that's not happening.
Besides I don't see what grounds you have to complain if you're not supporting him.
I'm disappointed in the lack of updates as well but as I'm not supporting him I figure I don't have any reason to complain.

 

[Willibrordus]

Except it's all freely given money and never once promised a product. Patrons are supporters/backers. He's not on a payroll.
If he was a game company that promised a game using the public's money, then he would be liable to be sued for damages.
Nobody on Patreon is liable for anyone's lost money.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he's using $1 bills as toilet paper.

If you want, you can contact Patreon about his supposed breaches of contract. See if they care enough. They're making pots of money off his pots of money. And Patreon LOVES pots of money.
Sure, if enough people complain, they'll take notice. But that's not happening.
Besides I don't see what grounds you have to complain if you're not supporting him.
I'm disappointed in the lack of updates as well but as I'm not supporting him I figure I don't have any reason to complain.

Well said. I don't support financially either so I have no ground to complain. But that doesn't mean I'm not sorry for lack of updates. I like this game and its characters. I 've been turning to the Fan Art thread for new content with these characters.

 

[Kulman]

Except it's all freely given money and never once promised a product. Patrons are supporters/backers. He's not on a payroll.
If he was a game company that promised a game using the public's money, then he would be liable to be sued for damages.
Nobody on Patreon is liable for anyone's lost money.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he's using $1 bills as toilet paper.

If you want, you can contact Patreon about his supposed breaches of contract. See if they care enough. They're making pots of money off his pots of money. And Patreon LOVES pots of money.
Sure, if enough people complain, they'll take notice. But that's not happening.
Besides I don't see what grounds you have to complain if you're not supporting him.
I'm disappointed in the lack of updates as well but as I'm not supporting him I figure I don't have any reason to complain.

Yeah I know that legally he is fine. I guess there would have to be some type of contract, where he is obligated to deliver at least something. That, however, opens up a whole new can of worms, as to what constitutes a normal "update" and how to measure it...

Even a lot of kickstartered stuff, where you are essentially pre-buying things, ended up horrible or undelivered. Such a pain to get it from them, as it would require a class action lawsuit or something like that. And they can just claim that it was pissed in mismanagement, not through fraud.

I guess the most effective thing would be for people to get their heads out of their asses and stopped funding this behavior... but as we see from the rise of phone games... People voting with their wallets leads to pretty bad end product.

 

[sillywhatisit]

Even a lot of kickstartered stuff, where you are essentially pre-buying things, ended up horrible or undelivered. Such a pain to get it from them, as it would require a class action lawsuit or something like that. And they can just claim that it was pissed in mismanagement, not through fraud.

This I find to be the real tragedy. Between games like this and other platforms with Early Access games and kickstarting, it makes me incredibly shy to give money to any company nowadays without thoroughly vetting them.

No one is going to die if this isn't made, and no one should be giving money they can't afford. All ICSTOR really has done to me in the past year is make me more shy to the patreon model, which seems to be the lifeblood of this genre (at least in the west), and that makes me feel shitty.

 

[phill_leotardo]

To all 6000+ subs of his patron:
Please unsub like me. maybe if enough people unsub he actually gets scared and starts moving his lazy ass

To all his 6000 subs, dont sub to him, if you want to sub for someone that does nothing and gets paid, sub to me, i do that a lot better, thanks.

 

[Deleted member 2912657]

You know, I recently had a bout of depression and had difficulties doing anything. Partly because of the corona/lockdown. I used to mock ICSTOR too. But now I can sympathize.

Milf's Control is one of my favorite game. I wish him well.

 

[MR.Z...]

update?

 

[jinxjinxjinx]

You know, I recently had a bout of depression and had difficulties doing anything. Partly because of the corona/lockdown. I used to mock ICSTOR too. But now I can sympathize.

Milf's Control is one of my favorite game. I wish him well.

Same here mate. Feel ya, hope you got over it!

 

[abczzz]

link for discord channel doesn't work anymore

 

[Jill Royce Lover]

link for discord channel doesn't work anymore

Yeah mate. ICSTOR has became a total Badass

 

[ljack685]

so this is kinda dead

 

[CHVGames]

so this is kinda dead

It is dead.

No updates for the last year, the Discord is dead, there are zero messages from ICSTOR regarding anything about the future, except for the vague announcement of a new project.

Milfy City was a game for 2018 and maybe the beginning of 2019. It was never finished.

 

[NotSlonique]

You can see a couple other people referencing this guy's 6k+ patrons and I can confirm that I saw he had that many a few days ago, but now he's lost 500 in a couple days. Ouch. Guess the new month hasn't been too good to him. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

But on a more serious note I think its time this was finally given the Abandoned tag since I think the mods know as well as anyone posting here, that this is an absolute scam at this point. Also, ik they typically wait till 3 months of no dev communication but if the dev always just comes back every 3 months and says "its still going!" its not really any better (and one of those rare posts was an announcement for a new game, what a joke). Especially when the last update was almost a year ago.

 

[CptRexx]

If you guys played SimBro before, this is the same thing. Saying that this game is dead or this thread should get the abandoned tag won't help the stiuation.

 

[Badjourasmix]

You can see a couple other people referencing this guy's 6k+ patrons and I can confirm that I saw he had that many a few days ago, but now he's lost 500 in a couple days. Ouch. Guess the new month hasn't been too good to him. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

That has happened for the last 3 or 4 months now, he loses 500 patrons in the beginning of every month, but then he regains them after a few days. Trust me he is not worried.

 

[Jill Royce Lover]

I don't care if he milks or sucks money. But at least he must give an update half yearly or even yearly once or it should be tagged as abandoned. None of these are happening then why i s these many people are supporting him

 

[Badjourasmix]

Yeah I don't get it either, the dev himself said he hasn't been working on the game. Put it on hold at least.

 

[Froboslayer]

Can we get an abandoned tag on this disappointment of a game? Mods shouldn't care about useless patreon posts, the fact is that the game didn't receive an update for a whole year. Do your job and add the tag...