VN Ren'Py Completed Milky Touch [Final] [Studio Kuma]

[qazxsw80]

Milky Touch didn't get any traction because the game goes NTR.

I really hope you are just trolling. If not, it is kind of sad what an idiot you are.

It is really disappointing that Milky Touch is going to be abandoned. The developers say that is going to be concluded, but abruptly finishing the game in the middle of the story, when some branches (the aunt, the sister, the club, Riley's mother) have almost no content, should be called what it is - abandoning the game.

The developers hope that their new game is going to get more financial support, but I highly doubt it.
The first thing - they are already making a lot of money considering the current Patreon situation. Only very few of the most popular games make more than 3300 dollars a month. Yes, it is easy to look at Summertime Saga and all that money they are making and think you can make it too. But such games are an exception, not a rule. There is no easy money on Patreon now, it is not like it used to be 3-4 years ago. Partly because the competition is much harder now, partly because of all that Covid-19 financial difficulties for many people. Maybe 3300 dollars is not enough for them, but my guess is 99% of developers would dream about such an amount of support. To make more money a game should really click with a wide audience. But it is a rarety, you really need to be lucky for it to happen.

Second, frankly, there is nothing to justify more financial support if the amount of content they produce is going to be the same. The artist can draw only a limited amount of pictures every month. And so updates are tiny and have very little content. It takes two months to wait for a new version of the game and about 20 minutes to play it.

And third, all that Cyberpunk content - games, movies, and so on - doesn't look to be very successful and popular. I noticed that the main developer is a big fan of such a setting, but the patrons need to like it, not the developer. It is a different thing.

I'm afraid the developers are going to invest a lot of money into starting a new project. Then they are going to get the same amount of support at best and the whole situation of abandoning the game is going to be repeated. They abandoned No More Golden Days. They abandoned Milky Touch. They are going to abandon Neon Touch.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Milky Touch didn't get any traction because the game goes NTR.
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No matter how good the art can be, if you add this shit to your game, consider it dead, especially if you don't tag the fucking threads correctly.

This is Not NTR!

Karen is Not a love interest for anyone in this VN except for the woman she sees in the mirror.

She is a user and delights in control and manipulation and the MC is just another tool for her machinations (like stealing information about his Aunt, Katelyn, a powerful political figure).

The MC has only 3 love interests - Claudia, Octavia, and Riley.

These are the only 3 women that the MC can invite to Mossland.

He can also have sex with several other people, Karen included, but any sex with a Karen who is awake is just a reward from Karen for either services rendered or a down payment for services she wants the MC to perform.

Either you have not taken the time to actually read through the dialogue and are making a judgment on just imagery without Any understanding of context

Or

You have the attitude that all sexual acts in any story Must happen with the MC because he owns All women in the story.

Men don't Own whores, they rent them. Karen is a whore for power.

Claiming NTR because other men are renting the whore you like who has NEVER returned your affection demonstrates an absolute lack of understanding of what NTR (Netorare) actually is.

"Netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other."

Karen is the MC's principal, he is one of her many students, NO other relationship exists in the Milky Touch story between these two people.

If you are going to Insist on misusing the NTR tag in a way that the F95 moderators and AVN creators do not intend, you will be greatly disappointed by hundreds of the AVNs here and on any pirate site.

 

[Dragon59]

Milky Touch didn't get any traction because the game goes NTR.
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No matter how good the art can be, if you add this shit to your game, consider it dead, especially if you don't tag the fucking threads correctly.

I expect this third attempt at beating the already dead horse will be deleted soon. Just give it up. No one here seems to agree to your definition of NTR.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I really hope you are just trolling. If not, it is kind of sad what an idiot you are.

It is really disappointing that Milky Touch is going to be abandoned. The developers say that is going to be concluded, but abruptly finishing the game in the middle of the story, when some branches (the aunt, the sister, the club, Riley's mother) have almost no content, should be called what it is - abandoning the game.

The developers hope that their new game is going to get more financial support, but I highly doubt it.
The first thing - they are already making a lot of money considering the current Patreon situation. Only very few of the most popular games make more than 3300 dollars a month. Yes, it is easy to look at Summertime Saga and all that money they are making and think you can make it too. But such games are an exception, not a rule. There is no easy money on Patreon now, it is not like it used to be 3-4 years ago. Partly because the competition is much harder now, partly because of all that Covid-19 financial difficulties for many people. Maybe 3300 dollars is not enough for them, but my guess is 99% of developers would dream about such an amount of support. To make more money a game should really click with a wide audience. But it is a rarety, you really need to be lucky for it to happen.

Second, frankly, there is nothing to justify more financial support if the amount of content they produce is going to be the same. The artist can draw only a limited amount of pictures every month. And so updates are tiny and have very little content. It takes two months to wait for a new version of the game and about 20 minutes to play it.

And third, all that Cyberpunk content - games, movies, and so on - doesn't look to be very successful and popular. I noticed that the main developer is a big fan of such a setting, but the patrons need to like it, not the developer. It is a different thing.

I'm afraid the developers are going to invest a lot of money into starting a new project. Then they are going to get the same amount of support at best and the whole situation of abandoning the game is going to be repeated. They abandoned No More Golden Days. They abandoned Milky Touch. They are going to abandon Neon Touch.

It's my understanding, based on comments made on the Patreon site for Milky Touch, that there was one Major $ supporter (>$1,000/month in support) who helped keep Milky Touch going for awhile.

If he told Kuma that his support would have to end in X months (and I don't know that this did/did not happen), then this would force Kuma's hand regarding being able to keep Milky Touch going.

Earlier in the story, I believe we had voice acting for Claudia, Karen, Octavia and Riley.

Currently, only Claudia is getting voiced and Kuma hopes to finish MT with both Claudia and Karen.

MT is ambitious as there are very few AVNs that have major voice acting (Inceton's Echoes of Lust, Season 1 is the only other one that comes to mind).

As much as I like the voice acting, I'd give that up for Neon Touch to be fully developed and delivered to supporters.

 

[Joe Her]

the best art i've ever seen in this games, animations and realism are soo great, but the faces seem to be identical.
waiting for completion

 

[PaxHadrian17]

And I insist, there's probably a reason for that. The writing in the game wasn't stellar, I'd say it has some of the most annoying characters I've ever encountered in these games, and I only played like 15 mins. But I insist, the worst offender is not having an identity: The game and the devs advertise the game as some sort of vanilla game (look it up) when evidently it has unavoidable NTR and takes people like me by surprise. And understandably this is something that doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

They either cater to specific groups, or they don't. The art is amazing, and a lot of other games with art as good but with solid plots do better. It's a shame it's going to be dropped, but good riddance, nothing of value was lost.


If you are going to waste time and resources drawing a scene with an unavoidable footjob scene done to someone else than the MC with a character that you basically have to go through a mandatory scene in the beginning of the game, while the MC is clearly interested in her, when you could have allocated resources in actual popular characters like the mom, and then claim the intention was not to make it NTR, then I don't know what to tell you.

The developers shot themselves in the foot, and the thread continues to be mistagged. Oh, and voice acting is a pointless waste of resources that only eats money.

So you have spent more time complaining about Milky Touch, an AVN you are taking for free on a pirate site, than you actually did playing it.

You spend a whole 15 minutes to make your judgment...

The scene you are calling NTR is actually part of an attempt by the MC to blackmail Karen - and an integral part of the story setting up future content. NTR requires a relationship, which does not exist here as I explained in my earlier post which you quoted but then ignored anything that did not fit your narrative.

The tag you seem to be looking for is not NTR... It is:

Triggered

Triggered - as in you took something for free and you did not get what you wanted from your 15 minutes so you are triggered.

Perhaps F95 can add that tag for you.

Does this mean that I won't see you on Kuma's Patreon site supporting his VN?

 

[Dragon59]

The F95 definition of NTR is a scene that is designed to cause jealousy. At the time, he was not interested in her sexually, so there were no feelings of jealousy. Designed to cause jealousy in the average player. You, sir are not anywhere near the norm in your reactions.

It was a voyeur scene, not an NTR one. Please just let it rest. I'm certain a number of people have already put you on ignore for your one-note symphony.

 

[Swordsman83]

whose fragile heart did we break again ?

 

[Swordsman83]

The F95 definition of NTR is a scene that is designed to cause jealousy. At the time, he was not interested in her sexually, so there were no feelings of jealousy. Designed to cause jealousy in the average player. You, sir are not anywhere near the norm in your reactions.

It was a voyeur scene, not an NTR one. Please just let it rest. I'm certain a number of people have already put you on ignore for your one-note symphony.

being a pimp is ntr too.. given by his logic.

 

[Swordsman83]

What's wrong with you? Play a free game and complain about this about that. You are a victim of NTR, right? Your wife have cheated on you and you cagut them on the spot? That would explain why you are so sensitive about NTR. Pity on you.

not only him, the ten of thousands anti-ntr peeps here.

 

[dkatryl]

While the argument regarding Karen's footjob and NTR is flawed for all of the reasons already pointed out (ie there was no relationship), a better argument could be later on if you sniffed Karen's panties, and then your 'friend', Victor, demands items from Claudia, despite the overall tone of the MC being reluctant to let him.

Now, one could argue fair is fair, but he ends up taking far more liberties than the MC.

Completely avoidable, sure, just dont sniff em, but that act and the followup act are not immediately connected, so can blindside the MC, especially since there doesnt seem to be a way out of it once you're on that path.

Either way, im kinda meh in the whole thing, since at least my example *is* avoidable, and the karen footjob thing doesnt qualify.

 

[Deleted member 3581761]

this isnt even an issue, guys please become a patreon, this is a very good vn

 

[Swordsman83]

this isnt even an issue, guys please become a patreon, this is a very good vn

why haven't you ?

 

[Deleted member 3581761]

no.. is there a discreet way to do this

 

[Arnav Dasari]

Oh mighty Talos, behold this Cringe Unending and despair!

 

[Arnav Dasari]

being a pimp is ntr too.. given by his logic.

But it is.

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a pimp. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, protecting and rearing a girl so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little slut - reading her Kamasutra, making her practice strip routine, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole.

Raised the perfect whore? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she was trained up, who buys her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy. He gets the benefits of her submissive personality that came from the way you raised her.

As a man who's a pimp, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least years of your life simply to make a product for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically.

 

[lordfridge9]

Oh mighty Talos, behold this Cringe Unending and despair!

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Those coloured markers are cringe...

 

[Arnav Dasari]

Those coloured markers are cringe...

That's why Heimskr denounces them in his speech.

 

[lordfridge9]

That's why Heimskr denounces them in his speech.

Well everything would be fine with that if Heimskr wouldn't be cringe in his attempt to be based

 

[Arnav Dasari]

Well everything would be fine with that if Heimskr wouldn't be cringe in his attempt

In his attempt to call out an obvious troll that people continue to feed two days in a row?