Ren'Py Mind the School [v0.1.4C] [Su.IT]

[Su.IT]

That's the problem with them, they're grindy. They are a good way to expand the amount of playtime you get out of a certain amount of content but there needs to be a balance. This one is further problematic because there's too much RNG. I haven't played the latest update but the one before was brutal to play. I'd farm events to get stats but they'd go down faster than I could build them up a lot of the time. The cheat mod was pretty much the only thing making it reasonably playable but that's really not the ideal way to play one of these games. Without it it wasn't exactly strange for all the stats I was hoping to build to be lower than they'd started after a week if the RNG wasn't playing nice.

Okay. Yeah I noticed that as well. I think I did the mistake by giving the events the stat changes they would have, when the game is more populated. With more events and more diverse stat changes, those would have balanced themselves. But for now I made stat stat grind less challenging by nerfing the less and buffing the increase a bit and also add the work events in the office where one can increase ones stats directly. The grind will also become less problematic the further the school progresses, as one would get more ways to increase ones stats.

 

[Revotur]

Thank you for your extensive feedback.

The feedback on the map is absolutely valid, and I'll have a look on improving it.

The stuff about the stories and dialogues is something I heavily struggle with. A reason I took heavy inspiration of Ashford Academy Redux, was (despite me really liking that game) that it was very content heavy. Almost no story and pretty much only content. I'm not good with storywriting, so I structured this game on being content heavy as well and having a kind of story or rather story tendencies happen in the background. Have the character of the girls leak in the background piece by piece, so people are able to puzzle together what kind of a character the different girls have, but that was only supposed to be an extra. And otherwise have smaller or maybe bigger storylines, but have them mostly be side stories.

I admit, the introduction is kinda messy. It is the symptom of me trying to introduce the potion into the game, have at least some content in the introduction for the first release of the game and have the students transition from prude af to at least they won't run away when I say the word boobs.
To have the teachers work as some kind of antagonist is a good idea, but the rest of the introduction would still be a problem.
Honestly I don't really know how and where to ask for help with the dialogues. I don't have lot's of experience in forums, since I pretty much only have had bad experiences in forums, I reverted to maximum lurk mode in most of the internet.

Also I know of some problems with sandboxes, but nobody really told me in detail what exactly the problems in sandboxes are. I don't have many of the problems many others have with sandboxes so I can't really comprehend many of the problems since most people only complain but don't explain what exactly they complain about. The only problems I know of sandboxes are that they tend to be grindy and that it can be difficult to properly trace the story.

You definitely won't please everyone.

I would recommend that you add one slut to the game (maybe your secretary) who will have a lot of sex with the MC, from the very beginning of the game. Anyone who wants to see boobs or sex will be happy.

As for the other girls, keep the current course, i.e. slowly corrupt them. Of course, this will make it so that for many updates there will be no sex or nudity, which is why you need sluts.

You need two things, a game script and a road map. It is possible that you already have both, that is a big plus.

HS is not the best program when it comes to the diversity of girls. You can only choose hair color and skin color. Height and bust size are not that striking. The girls are simply too similar to each other, so I suggest that you do not add too many from the beginning.

Use the voting wisely on this forum, ask questions that are bothering you and ask in this way what is good and what is bad and at the same time you will see how popular your game is. With each major update ask a different question. For example, you have now asked a question about whether there should be other male characters in the game and you have a clear answer. By the way, "Total voters: 767" have voted so far. If more people vote in the next vote, you will know that your game is becoming more popular.

If you have a problem with dialogues, you can seek help from friends or ask for help on the forum. For example, send me a private message where you write what the MC is saying. Write to me who he is talking to, the circumstances of the conversation and the character of the girl he is talking to and I will try to get into the role and answer you. It will definitely not be perfect, but it will definitely be better than the current monologues in the game where the MC only talks.

 

[Su.IT]

You definitely won't please everyone.

I would recommend that you add one slut to the game (maybe your secretary) who will have a lot of sex with the MC, from the very beginning of the game. Anyone who wants to see boobs or sex will be happy.

As for the other girls, keep the current course, i.e. slowly corrupt them. Of course, this will make it so that for many updates there will be no sex or nudity, which is why you need sluts.

You need two things, a game script and a road map. It is possible that you already have both, that is a big plus.

HS is not the best program when it comes to the diversity of girls. You can only choose hair color and skin color. Height and bust size are not that striking. The girls are simply too similar to each other, so I suggest that you do not add too many from the beginning.

Use the voting wisely on this forum, ask questions that are bothering you and ask in this way what is good and what is bad and at the same time you will see how popular your game is. With each major update ask a different question. For example, you have now asked a question about whether there should be other male characters in the game and you have a clear answer. By the way, "Total voters: 767" have voted so far. If more people vote in the next vote, you will know that your game is becoming more popular.

If you have a problem with dialogues, you can seek help from friends or ask for help on the forum. For example, send me a private message where you write what the MC is saying. Write to me who he is talking to, the circumstances of the conversation and the character of the girl he is talking to and I will try to get into the role and answer you. It will definitely not be perfect, but it will definitely be better than the current monologues in the game where the MC only talks.

I thank you for your insight. I'll try to keep the points you made in mind

 

[OsAs999]

How to upgrade cafetaria level 1 to level 2, even though the vote is already 100% and always error

 

[Su.IT]

How to upgrade cafeteria level 1 to level 2, even though the vote is already 100% and always error

What version do you have? With version 0.1.4C that shouldn't happen since the cafeteria isn't supposed to be upgradeable yet.

 

[OsAs999]

What version do you have? With version 0.1.4C that shouldn't happen since the cafeteria isn't supposed to be upgrade able yet.

oh sorry mine is still version 0.1.2

 

[BlasKyau]

I would recommend that you add one slut to the game (maybe your secretary) who will have a lot of sex with the MC, from the very beginning of the game. Anyone who wants to see boobs or sex will be happy.

I find it appropriate as long as we can choose not to have sex with her. The fact that the MC has sex with a girl (I'm not going to call her LI and I'm going to assume there's no relationship beyond sex) who fucks anyone with a dick doesn't excite me at all.

I'm among those who have no interest in including other guys in the game, or at least other guys who can have sex with the LIs. So a slut "LI" doesn't seem like an exciting addition, unless she's his personal slut who only has sex with him.

 

[OsAs999]

What version do you have? With version 0.1.4C that shouldn't happen since the cafeteria isn't supposed to be upgradeable yet.

I have downloaded the latest version but after finishing it goes back to version 0.1.2

 

[Su.IT]

I have downloaded the latest version but after finishing it goes back to version 0.1.2

In what way do you think it goes back to 0.1.2?
0.1.2 and 0.1.4 are very different from each other. And the cafeteria wasn't even available in 0.1.2

 

[OsAs999]

I have repeated it many times and it always goes to version 0.1.2

 

[Su.IT]

I have repeated it many times and it always goes to version 0.1.2

Ahh now I see the problem. No the game is 0.1.4C. Android says its 0.1.2 because I didn't know I had to reconfigure the build everytime I release a new version, since apparently renpy doesn't use the version in the game options for the Android Build. If you open the game on the Main Menu it should say 0.1.4C in the bottom right.

 

[OsAs999]

yes, at the bottom right it says version 0.1.4C/B, but still can't upgrade the cafetaria

 

[Su.IT]

yes, at the bottom right it says version 0.1.4C/B, but still can't upgrade the cafetaria

Yes as said, the cafeteria isn't supposed to be upgradeable yet. Only the unlock is available.

 

[animet]

Should add males and events of them with the girls for the 'sharing and free love'

 

[Hermenegild]

Su.IT, I tried the game and I have two fundamental grudges against it.

First, there's no clear direction I need to take, no hints about how to progress the game. When I click "Level" on the school's page in the journal, I get some general hints that I might need to do some things to advance the level, but there's no specific info about what's required to advance to level 2. The walkthrough on the wiki doesn't help at all in this regard. Maybe it's just a bug in 0.1.4C, but this is a showstopper for me. I don't want to blindly try everything and hope to trigger something which will allow me to proceed.

Second, my guess is - I might be wrong here, please correct me if I am - one of the things you need to do to advance is to have the cafeteria ready. Yet to even start working on it, an event has to happen. My grudge is, this event is a random one, you have no way of making sure it happens. It took me some 50+ save/load cycles before I got the event to trigger the way it has to in order to create the cafeteria. Nope. I can accept grind if - and only if - I have a feeling the grind moves me closer to reaching my goal, like even a failure improves my chances in the next try. A pure random grind - no, thank you.

And a bonus bug report for you: if you hold a PE lesson (at least at early noon), the time doesn't flow, so you can do it again and again, as many times as you want in a single day, bringing the stats up to any level you want, with the exception of inhibition which stops at 90.

 

[Su.IT]

Su.IT, I tried the game and I have two fundamental grudges against it.

First, there's no clear direction I need to take, no hints about how to progress the game. When I click "Level" on the school's page in the journal, I get some general hints that I might need to do some things to advance the level, but there's no specific info about what's required to advance to level 2. The walkthrough on the wiki doesn't help at all in this regard. Maybe it's just a bug in 0.1.4C, but this is a showstopper for me. I don't want to blindly try everything and hope to trigger something which will allow me to proceed.

Second, my guess is - I might be wrong here, please correct me if I am - one of the things you need to do to advance is to have the cafeteria ready. Yet to even start working on it, an event has to happen. My grudge is, this event is a random one, you have no way of making sure it happens. It took me some 50+ save/load cycles before I got the event to trigger the way it has to in order to create the cafeteria. Nope. I can accept grind if - and only if - I have a feeling the grind moves me closer to reaching my goal, like even a failure improves my chances in the next try. A pure random grind - no, thank you.

And a bonus bug report for you: if you hold a PE lesson (at least at early noon), the time doesn't flow, so you can do it again and again, as many times as you want in a single day, bringing the stats up to any level you want, with the exception of inhibition which stops at 90.

Thanks for your feedback.

Level 2 currently does not exist but I'm working on it right now and plan to introduce level 2 in the next update. Additionally, I just finished implementing a questing system which shows goals and the steps on how to do them. These also include a button to include quests that help one on how to unlock stuff.

The cafeteria unlock is a bit tedious I admit, the way the unlock is currently implemented was set with the thought in mind that there will be other stuff you can find in the future thus having the cafeteria less in focus.
And unless you don't want the time to progress, you don't need any save/load cycle to unlock it, the event, like almost all other events, is repeatable and can just be played again during free time in this case. It is generally not possible to miss an unlock forever due to RNG.

I already noticed the time not progressing during P.E. while I worked on the next update. And it will be fixed in the update, but thanks for your bug report nonetheless.

 

[Gojii]

Narrowly missed the poll cutoff, was going to say no. I like the premise of the game as it is.

Will definitely give the game a playthrough soon. Best regards to dev.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Gotta say that's one fun looking poll, tons of alt accounts can be spotted voting no.
I wonder who was working so hard pumping those out.

 

[nuqqur]

Honestly, while I'm personally disappointed with the decision made based on the poll, it is the developer's prerogative to make a game the way they want to make it. While I question the wisdom of making that poll on F95 instead of as a private Patreon poll, there's clearly an audience for a game with this direction, so for the purpose of making a game that would be popular it may be the right decision.

However, one thing that ticked me off is that on Patreon, the developer said they reached "the solution" for folks who want a more... diverse cast of characters - modding. I can't tell if that's naivete or an attempt to string along people with false hope, but clearly if anyone thought about this for more than a few seconds, they'd realize that this isn't viable for this purpose.

Assuming of course that they don't mean that they actually implement all "mods" themselves (at which point it's more of a DLC, "official mod" doesn't really make sense). It's hard to tell based on their message which one they meant, because with "allow people to add content they are missing" and "why shouldn't I just use it to outsource content" they make it sound like they're not planning to do it themselves, but with "to develop a mod on the side containing the fetish stuff" they imply they'd be working on some "official mods", but give no hint towards co-ed being one they'd work on themselves.

Whether the school is girls only, or a mix is a fundamental difference. It would affect everything, from half of the dialogues to half of the CG. One could consider adding something like this with a mod if the game was not based on prerendered CG. In that case, a mod could make new characters appear on existing scenes fairly easily. But with CG images it would be extremely jarring if this major difference would only be visible in new events added by the mod, and the rest of the game would not make any references to that. To make it actually feel like it's a part of the game, one would have to rerender a lot of existing CG, which is not practically viable because modders do not have access to the scenes and models used to render the original CG.

Also, such a mod would require an enormous amount of work. Which requires someone competent to have enough time and interest in it in the first place. There are only a handful of games on this entire site that have mods which actually add significant portions of content rather than just being minor tweaks or cheat/walkthrough mods. At this point you could as well tell people "you can always make your own game!", which actually sounds less condescending.

 

[Paarl]

how can i upgrade the school lvl? i finished the mini event with Aona but now what?