VN Ren'Py Completed Misfits [Part 1-3 + Seamless] [Slow Burn Games]

[TrueBloodAmurca]

As I implied in the other statement, not surprised there is some increase by it not leaking. Granted, kind of curious how this data lines up in previous instances as there were at least 2 previous updates I recall for Misfits where it did not leak until around the public release and in general would do better to find actual correlation between not leaking and how much it benefits the game on average. I can understand why devs don't always have their number of Patrons or how much they make per month public, and while I give respect to Slow Burn for having the latter public, that 25% support metric is kind of misleading unless we know how many Patrons there actually are and how that correlated to actual money given to get a better idea on the support increase.

while you may want to know all that, and it may help you rationalize or analyze things, it hardly matters to the people who leak it day 1. Just look at the optimism and upbeat end to that post saying he has a "renewed vigour," vs his posts here today and on patreon.

"From the stats I've been keeping, the leaks cost me 25% of my Patrons and 30% of my income. It might be more (can't tell cos it always gets leaked) but that's a big cost of doing business and is the difference between a going concern and a failure. I know I could work half the hours and for more pay stacking shelves at my local Tesco's, so sooner or later common sense wil have to kick in.From the stats I've been keeping, the leaks cost me 25% of my Patrons and 30% of my income. It might be more (can't tell cos it always gets leaked) but that's a big cost of doing business and is the difference between a going concern and a failure. I know I could work half the hours and for more pay stacking shelves at my local Tesco's, so sooner or later common sense wil have to kick in."

 

[TrueBloodAmurca]

As previously reported, I cannot get any save to load. Neither from v17 (Gofile and MEGA) nor 17.1 (Gofile).

did you have a save from the end of 16? if not, you have to have one to load because this starts right at that point.

 

[longjohngold]

It wasn't noticeable really before as the sex hadn't kicked off... but now it has I'm finding the scenes a bit too flash in the pan, they need fleshing out somehow...

 

[HUNUTAN]

I would like to ask about the Pixie and monster scene. There was a choice, but it does not affect anything. It should be? Or some conditions for this are not met? Or does this scene not exist at all?

 

[TrueBloodAmurca]

I would like to ask about the Pixie and monster scene. There was a choice, but it does not affect anything. It should be? Or some conditions for this are not met? Or does this scene not exist at all?

there's no DP pic there, it's just to introduce the idea into Clara's head since she had never thought of it before. We can assume over the next few releases there should be some DP opportunities (like at the garage, on the bus, with the Misfits, at the poker game, etc)

 

[riddikk91]

Another separate part? Sigh... ok... I get why some dev's split their games into parts (smaller game file size, easier downloads, easier coding, etc...) but it does get annoying! Like DMD - moving from one part to the other is a PITA!!!

OK - my whinging is done... :|

 

[G0DZillA]

you are arguing like 2k usd is a lot of money

For me yes my salary per month is 16 USD, LOL.,

 

[Turret]

Is there a walkthrough for this game?

If you want to play the loyal paths, I made a walkrhrough for those, up to about ch. 13/14. When I have the time for it, I might update it to current. Btw. The point system mentioned is intentionially misleading explained in the game itself.

 

[Iskender]

Incest+ NTR is exciting

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

you can be as skeptical as you want, but this is right from Slow Burn last month:

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My sincere thanks to everyone who honoured their commitment not to leak this month's episode to pirate sites. It took a whopping 12 days for the episode to leak which is by far a record!
What was the effect?:
In the first 7 days we had 10% more Patrons that we normally get in the whole month. This was also a new record!
After 12 days we had 17% more Patrons than we normally get in a whole month.
It's hard to say how many Patrons we would have if the episode was never leaked but I think it isn't unreasonable to suggest that leaking costs this game around 25% of its support. For a small developer this is huge.
As I've said many times, I release a public version in due course so leaking the early release only achieves one thing- it undermines the Patreon support model. Without that I, and many other developers, would not be developing.
My thanks again- it's nice to know that a sense of honour and fair play still exist for so many people. Working on the next episode with renewed vigour!

Yeah and without F95zone and other pirate sites nobody would have heard of this game. Nobody goes on Patreon searching for porn games to buy

 

[TrueBloodAmurca]

Yeah and without F95zone and other pirate sites nobody would have heard of this game. Nobody goes on Patreon searching for porn games to buy

that's a bad reason at this stage in the game. Before this chapter leaked, we're 16 chapters in AND an entire previous game. You don't continuously steal coke from the store just because someone gave you your first one for free for marketing

 

[Bestinian]

It is, for 80% of the world.

Then take out Patreon fees and taxes too, don't forget. Also, with him mentioning a Tesco I assume he lives in the UK, that's really not much at all, and at that level the extra patrons make a difference. Look, I am not judging, this place is a pirate forum, which also happens to be the biggest place to discuss porn games. This place exists because of leaks, and it has helped games and hurt games. It isn't all one way or the other. But, with that said, I don't like when people attack the dev for being upset the game leaks, or argue that a day one leak helps him. It doesn't. It's something that happens, and there isn't much point in getting upset about it, because it is something out of his control. Someone will almost always leak, especially if people connect well with the game.

 

[Turret]

that's a bad reason at this stage in the game. Before this chapter leaked, we're 16 chapters in AND an entire previous game. You don't continuously steal coke from the store just because someone gave you your first one for free for marketing

I normally only play the public versions of the games I follow here (also bought a couple on Steam, I loath patreon more than steam), but I understand both viewpoints, they have merit and flaws to it.
I think a lot of the disargreements and anger happen because both sides went to F95 with preconceptions, which not necessarily are true.
F95 is possibly the biggest place on the net to discuss porn games, if you develop a porn game and it is not found here, hard luck your reach concerning patrons will be limited. On the other hand, F95 is also a place full of corsairs and pirates, so if a game is here and maybe even well-received too, it WILL be leaked sooner or later, unless there is a public version not too far behind the patron release.
I jokingly labelled F95 "Pirates & Patrons", because that is what this site is at it´s heart. And it follows normally it´s own unwritten rules too. One such rule is that "the tone makes the music". Devs get normally quite some leeway if they are friendly, have a nice game and/or are reliable.
Take for instance the Devs of "Pale Carnations", who initially never thought they would get this many patrons and followers as they have now. A couple weeks ago, they took a support hurdle they believed to not being able to reach ever with their game. That is a positive of F95. If your game is liked, patrons WILL come to you due to it being available here.

The darker other side of the coin is that leaks of the patron versions WILL ALSO happen, even if there is a public version, esp. if this public version takes rather long until release. These days, "Pale Carnations" rarely makes it to the public release date without it being leaked earlier than that (and PC has a rather short delay for the public release).
Here now comes the fork in the road, how do you react as a developer to these leaks? The devs of "PC" decided, while surely not overly happy about it, to take this as misguided admiration and kept being friendly and took it with grace and humourous snark. Result? Many followers still wait for the public release or a few days longer until playing the new (leaked) update and the game thread is lively and calm. TD and Gil most definitely do not miss out on many patrons and many of their patrons play the leaked version too but stay patrons.

And there are other examples like e.g. "Wifey´s Dilemma revisited" and "Tomie wanna get married" which got quite a push on patrons with being available here and recommended by F95 members. In WDR´s case the dev himself said he is surprised that a whole new crowd came looking into his game (his earlier games were a specific niche, WDR has more paths than just one niche, the F95 members saw and played it and then helped spread the news about the game).
Both mentioned games here have a reliable public release, the devs take the occasional leak (both rarely have one) stoically and voila, everything is a go, both for the devs as for the patrons and/or F95 members.

The problems start when devs clearly intentional use F95 to gain more exposure, but think of any player of the leaked and in the back of their heads even the public versions as patron money lost. L&P the "AWAM" developer is a prime example of this, who rants about and insults F95 members and even whale(!) patrons of his as rats and worse. Here clearly only the money counts, not his game and he conveniently forgets that the people he insults today, yesterday gave him money and exposure reach.

It does not make the leaks morally better, but understandable. e.g. L&P, no matter how much he tries to prevent leaks and seeths at even teaser material (which is specifically made for promotion!) becoming public, there are even among his most loyal patrons people who leak the updates near instantly, because they too are pissed off at how the devs treats them.

Developers who show that the game they make are works of love for a vision they have, will get great leeway from the community and the leaking of updates and stuff will be reduced or in steady stretched intervalls not hurting their patron income. And we have cases here, where the Dev evidently needs the money made for living, the community will not leak before the public release!
As said the tone makes the music. Threats are defintely the wrong way, no matter how (rightfully) annoyed you are.

 

[Alkizon]

This part is somewhat better, more monolithic in meaning. The only thing is that one of my paths reduces Clara to a minimum in terms of parameters, and I still wasn't able to forbid her to drink in "guest" scene, and then she naturally looses her mind

As for "discussed topic"... I don't think it's really worth the time spent, what's done is done. On the other hand, purely my opinion: "A month is a bit too much". No, of course I'm not set the rules and have no right to demand something from someone, but I quite like period discussed at 8muses - 2 weeks (there talking about sets of pictures, but still), especially if dev is doing full-fledged work, then something like this is reasonable. In the end, if some bugs are fixed in the process and more stable versions are released, then I usually always wait for "final result" (without "childish surprises"), and this results may turn exactly in that "required" couple of weeks/months. In other words, it being linked (even could immediately upon release), but not as starting version, rather one that isn't ashamed to show. Such is my opinion.

 

[Abraxxas]

wtf is this game??

 

[TrueBloodAmurca]

I normally only play the public versions of the games I follow here (also bought a couple on Steam, I loath patreon more than steam), but I understand both viewpoints, they have merit and flaws to it.
I think a lot of the disargreements and anger happen because both sides went to F95 with preconceptions, which not necessarily are true.
F95 is possibly the biggest place on the net to discuss porn games, if you develop a porn game and it is not found here, hard luck your reach concerning patrons will be limited. On the other hand, F95 is also a place full of corsairs and pirates, so if a game is here and maybe even well-received too, it WILL be leaked sooner or later, unless there is a public version not too far behind the patron release.
I jokingly labelled F95 "Pirates & Patrons", because that is what this site is at it´s heart. And it follows normally it´s own unwritten rules too. One such rule is that "the tone makes the music". Devs get normally quite some leeway if they are friendly, have a nice game and/or are reliable.
Take for instance the Devs of "Pale Carnations", who initially never thought they would get this many patrons and followers as they have now. A couple weeks ago, they took a support hurdle they believed to not being able to reach ever with their game. That is a positive of F95. If your game is liked, patrons WILL come to you due to it being available here.

The darker other side of the coin is that leaks of the patron versions WILL ALSO happen, even if there is a public version, esp. if this public version takes rather long until release. These days, "Pale Carnations" rarely makes it to the public release date without it being leaked earlier than that (and PC has a rather short delay for the public release).
Here now comes the fork in the road, how do you react as a developer to these leaks? The devs of "PC" decided, while surely not overly happy about it, to take this as misguided admiration and kept being friendly and took it with grace and humourous snark. Result? Many followers still wait for the public release or a few days longer until playing the new (leaked) update and the game thread is lively and calm. TD and Gil most definitely do not miss out on many patrons and many of their patrons play the leaked version too but stay patrons.

And there are other examples like e.g. "Wifey´s Dilemma revisited" and "Tomie wanna get married" which got quite a push on patrons with being available here and recommended by F95 members. In WDR´s case the dev himself said he is surprised that a whole new crowd came looking into his game (his earlier games were a specific niche, WDR has more paths than just one niche, the F95 members saw and played it and then helped spread the news about the game).
Both mentioned games here have a reliable public release, the devs take the occasional leak (both rarely have one) stoically and voila, everything is a go, both for the devs as for the patrons and/or F95 members.

The problems start when devs clearly intentional use F95 to gain more exposure, but think of any player of the leaked and in the back of their heads even the public versions as patron money lost. L&P the "AWAM" developer is a prime example of this, who rants about and insults F95 members and even whale(!) patrons of his as rats and worse. Here clearly only the money counts, not his game and he conveniently forgets that the people he insults today, yesterday gave him money and exposure reach.

It does not make the leaks morally better, but understandable. e.g. L&P, no matter how much he tries to prevent leaks and seeths at even teaser material (which is specifically made for promotion!) becoming public, there are even among his most loyal patrons people who leak the updates near instantly, because they too are pissed off at how the devs treats them.

Developers who show that the game they make are works of love for a vision they have, will get great leeway from the community and the leaking of updates and stuff will be reduced or in steady stretched intervalls not hurting their patron income. And we have cases here, where the Dev evidently needs the money made for living, the community will not leak before the public release!
As said the tone makes the music. Threats are defintely the wrong way, no matter how (rightfully) annoyed you are.

I appreciate that you took the time to write your opinion and such, but your last part "And we have cases here, where the Dev evidently needs the money made for living, the community will not leak before the public release!" does not hold any water and shows because the Dev of THIS GAME says he needs the money for living and it was leaked on DAY 1 of release, which he then details how it loses him money. Some people saying "oh, he makes 2k a month, that's enough/more than I make" don't get it. If this is the Dev's only job, that's the equivalent of $11.54, or ~$1 more than the minimum wage in the UK. I believe the Dev when he says he can make twice the money stacking boxes at Tescos.

 

[Turret]

I appreciate that you took the time to write your opinion and such, but your last part "And we have cases here, where the Dev evidently needs the money made for living, the community will not leak before the public release!" does not hold any water and shows because the Dev of THIS GAME says he needs the money for living and it was leaked on DAY 1 of release, which he then details how it loses him money. Some people saying "oh, he makes 2k a month, that's enough/more than I make" don't get it. If this is the Dev's only job, that's the equivalent of $11.54, or ~$1 more than the minimum wage in the UK. I believe the Dev when he says he can make twice the money stacking boxes at Tescos.

I did not really know that Slowburn needs the money from his games so massivly and my sentence you quoted was honestly meant, but not as total gospel on all threads of F95. I know that in the case of "After Choices", dev of "Free Pass", who had to flee his home country, the new updates are usually not leaked before the public release.
I am sorry that his situation is like it is, but threats will not help much here. This normally turns into a aggression spiral with both sides just getting angrier.
What I have seen many time working is a compromise. Reduced waiting time for the public release, say, off the cuff, two weeks instead of a month and again mentioning how desperate your situation on the money front is. It normally should help. The F95 community is not unreasonable, excemption those special cases you will find anywhere where many people come together, but they are not the majority.
But threats, no matter which side brings them up, lead only to worse.

 

[TrueBloodAmurca]

I did not really know that Slowburn needs the money from his games so massivly and my sentence you quoted was honestly meant, but not as total gospel on all threads of F95. I know that in the case of "After Choices", dev of "Free Pass", who had to flee his home country, the new updates are usually not leaked before the public release.
I am sorry that his situation is like it is, but threats will not help much here. This normally turns into a aggression spiral with both sides just getting angrier.
What I have seen many time working is a compromise. Reduced waiting time for the public release, say, off the cuff, two weeks instead of a month and again mentioning how desperate your situation on the money front is. It normally should help. The F95 community is not unreasonable, excemption those special cases you will find anywhere where many people come together, but they are not the majority.
But threats, no matter which side brings them up, lead only to worse.

This doesn't have to be argued more, but when only 1 side has something to lose, and the other side is the one causing the issue, it's not job of victim to appease the aggressor off of the promise that they, as a group that doesn't police itself at all or have any sort of unity, will adhere to a compromise. You can't steal from a store before it opens because you don't like the hours, to then tell the store owner "we won't steal if you open up earlier and just give it for free"

 

[Turret]

This doesn't have to be argued more, but when only 1 side has something to lose, and the other side is the one causing the issue, it's not job of victim to appease the aggressor off of the promise that they, as a group that doesn't police itself at all or have any sort of unity, will adhere to a compromise. You can't steal from a store before it opens because you don't like the hours, to then tell the store owner "we won't steal if you open up earlier and just give it for free"

I know, but this here is cyberspace, where a lot of things are not the least like in the real world, as fortunate and unfortunate at the same time it is!
In the real world a developer as L&P would either be kicked out the firm or filed for bankrupcy a long time ago, instead of taking in an amount of cash for which he delivers not even a tenth of counter-worth.
As also would "Slowburn´s " games be far more rarely get leaked/sold under the table/ however you want to call it.

I know that a compromise is not always the best solution, esp. if one side is clearly the wronged part, but going to war means in the end both sides lose here. "Swallowing the toad" is never a great taste, but can be the smart choice.

 

[johnplane]

good game i think