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I want to genocide Kotone, and only Kotone!
Wait. If it's only one it isn't really genocide, then, is it?
Wait. If it's only one it isn't really genocide, then, is it?
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Okay I'ma just reply to this one out of all the thingys cause it had the suggestion bit, but I've tried to read all the thingys.
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First off all let me say thanks for responding. I do appreciate it and hope that I may have brought some enjoyment and a few laughs with my absolute RANTING about Kotone. Also, like I said before I don't mean much by the hatred part it's again mostly me joking about.
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Once again thank for your response and I wish you the best with this game. Like I said before this is one of my favorite text based games out there..... Should probably actually do a review at some point...... HEY DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT I'M LAZY ALRIGHT?!?
Anyways Cheers!
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That my dear Child is referred to as murder and is frowned upon in most polite societies
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Just in the interest of full disclosure, I am not the developer for this title, just a supporter who casually throws around walls of text, shares development news, and performs other activities that hopefully helps to build up the community for this title. Threshold is the developer, they have a post a few places above this one.
Just wanted to clear up any potential misunderstandings, DeyoZero.
Good responses all around, I'll largely just leave it at that otherwise we'll likely start moving into circular arguments and keep retreading the same ground, especially as she is still in development and could change more in the future which could render my, your, or both our arguments moot. There is a little I do want to say however with the first being about a quote in game that is easy to miss:
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These likely do not really move the needle with regards to the discussion, but I did want to put that information out there, especially about that quote in game that can be missed. Either way, thank you very much for having this discussion on characters like Kotone, Sofia, and Kaia, doomgal.
I do not offer full clear saves as not all of the potential relationship routes may match up with someone's tastes not to mention preferences in stat build and skills learned and used. I do have a cheat start save file such as the one attached to this post that can make your journey through the game and building the relationships you desire a much easier and faster process as you'll have a few million Eros, be over level 100, and so on. That post will also tell you how you may customize it and change the name to something you may like more.
While not exactly what you were asking for, I do hope that you find this helpful, cffdd.
Volta provided a basic outline, so thank you very much for that. To begin with, other than cheating with the
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that can make legitimate farming more efficient. I'd recommend the former over the latter in general as obtaining the Lucky Pocket Watch means passing up unique perks and other unique pieces of equipment that may better suit your character in the long run. Equipping three
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can further speed up the money grind.For places to grind, depends on where you're at in the game and how strong you are. While the Brothel is always viable, it also will cost money to correct the damage dealt to your sensitivities and fetishes, making it much less lucrative than it otherwise may be. As Volta mentioned, Nicci is your first potential money grind as her quest has a decent payout and you can obtain a number of loot items to sell on your way to her. Next option is as Volt mentioned again, Nara, as a boss fight, she has a decent Eros payout but also can drop equipment with a good sell value.
After those two, you have a few potential avenues depending on how strong you are and how easy you find the fights. Jora has a decent payout and can drop Silver Runes in a quick and convenient boss fight once you can fast travel to her. Keep three Silver Runes to equip and perhaps a few more for Amber's specialty sex toy shop upgrades if you are interested in those, and then sell the rest of the Silver Runes as she drops them. Going back to the Forest Dungeon and unlocking Vili and her special dungeon is also quite lucrative. Other than the Eros, Vili and her Phantasms can all drop Silver Runes at the same rate as Jora and the treasure chests in her dungeon currently have the highest drop rate for said runes among all treasure chests currently in game. The Vili Phantasms can be cleared out much more quickly than Jora, but Vili herself can be a more challenging encounter. On the plus side however is that you do not have to fight Jora and can just keep on loving her without fighting while Vili will view it as playtime and a chance to roleplay.
The final money grind currently would be Sofia. If you can rise to the point where you can quickly clear out a fight, you can grind her for Eros while having a convenient recovery source via relaxing with Ancilla nearby. The first fight alone if you can take her out with a swing or two or three of the Demon Layer can easily pay out over 4k Eros per a fight. Between this and using CTRL to speed through the text, you can grind out a large amount of funds very quickly. In comparison, the fight for just phase 2 of the third battle can pay out over 22k Eros per a win against Sofia. So she is certainly the most lucrative battle available if you are able to farm her quickly.
I do hope that this is a satisfactory answer to your question, lewdbender.
That's odd, the "Enter the bar" option should have "Go to the bar." along with either "Look around the Tavern" or "Check out the Tavern's nightlife" depending on whether it is daytime or nighttime respectively, then the option to "Sit down and order some food.", and then finally leave the bar. As entering the bar will flag Belle as met, "Go to the bar." is set as always visible and is available for even a newly created character. Out of curiosity, what platform are you playing on and what version number does your game show if you open the menu and then select Credits?
Then for the sake of being complete, I'll include a brief walkthrough for Belle.
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I do hope that this aids you in your quest to experience the beginning of Belle's romantic content, WhatTheHekc.
Now, as for general update news, not very much to report yet. However, an art teaser is up on Patreon as the Black Knight has a new look. Her new assets have been created by ADOPOLICH, the artist responsible for Aiko, Mimi, the Lumiren, and Kotone's art assets. This new Black Knight has a much more clearly defined female form, her hips are especially pronounced to say the least. Unfortunately, the old assets for the Black Knight are being archived for the moment, but I do hope that they will return one day for use as a Cursed/Living Armor or some such monster girl because they are still a solid asset, just that they do not mesh with the vision for the Black Knight since there are more concrete details behind the character than just powerful being in an ominous suit of armor wielding a powerful sword and her more voluptuous figure certainly could not be squeezed into the current armored Black Knight art asset.
I do hope that everyone interested in this information finds this at least a little useful.
Fair enough I feel that fair points have been made on both sides as well. I just find it fun to debate these things and can sometimes get stuck in a circle debating rift with friends. That being said I love debates mainly because when you debate you have to reevaluate your own position and be like "Do I still think this presented with this new argument/information?" and I love that the answer could be Yes I still think this, No I changed my mind to the opposite position, or even Wildcard Baby I reject both sides and make a new one for myself now or anything in between.
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That all being said I always enjoy walls of text no matter if I'm included in them or not since they're always fun to read IMO. CHEERS ALL!
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Mindrapists deserve no better.That my dear Child is referred to as murder and is frowned upon in most polite societies
hmmmmm, I'm assuming this comment is dead serious, see what I did there ;0, so I'd like to ask what is it about Kotone that you truly hate/dislike? I can kinda assume because I think we both have issues in the same area just want to confirm since you know what they say about assumptions. Also, do you think there is a way in which you would find Kotone redeemable or no? I did put in a previous post how I would try to 'fix' Kotone and would like to know if you do or don't agree that's possible.
CHEERS!
EDIT: Also in my search to try and figure out how to link to my previous post I discovered that you can multi-quote people, and I probably should have been doing that in my whole Kaia, Kotone, and Sofia rants. My bad, it won't happen again!
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Wait is the Belle Romance option only on the newest version? I've realized that my folder version specifically says "Alpha v23.1". I think I saw somewhere that there was a newer version but I'm not quite sure. Also if there is, how would I go about updating without having to start over again? I'm not too savvy when it comes to digging in files, best I know is how to torrent and change locales : P
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saves are stored in your appdata, so you don't have to worry about transferring them, as long as you download a new version, you can load the old saves. Only exceptions to this are if the game system changes heavily (i.e. when day night system added) or you load a save outside town after updating, in which old saves can get buggy. if you do need to deal with the save files you can probably find the location if you use search on this thread.
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Since the topics have been broached or brought up, I would like to say that some cool addition to the game could be:
1: Player controlled Hypnosis content. Perhaps Kotone or Tabitha could give the player ideas or train them on how to trance other Monster girls. We already have something similar with the Tengu although that's reversing their spell moreso than us using anything. I just really like the idea of putting the Monster Girls in trances which I thing would do AMAZINGLY well with Indulgence builds as you the player can have those more pleasurable moments with different Monster Girls than doing just "WHO WHO CUMS FIRST COMES LAST!" not that I don't love battle fucking formulas. It's just an idea. I mean, who wouldn't want to really indulge in the different bodies of all the Monster Girls outside of just post-battle domination/sex?
2: Mending Kotone and Feng's rocky relationship. It was said earlier by the dev that kotone already has a lot of content over the other Monster Girls and still have more content planed for
, but I think this could be moreso Feng's content than Kotone's. It could unlock once you hear from both Feng and Kotone about the matter, but it would be issued by Feng as Kotone would most likely be far less willing to try and take that step as she's already done quite a bit and feels far too guilty. Perhaps the constant reminder of seeing Feng could be a self-induced punishment for herself for what she did. With all she did to humanity, her family, and even her best friend to have said best friend be a shadow of their former self could feel as her being properly punished. Since Feng is much more willing to change things or rather improve things, it'd feel more right being HER content even though Kotone also benefits. Perhaps give the options for Kotone to embrace the new relationship of Master and Servant, Kotone revealing all to Feng and Feng perhaps having some closure to what she feels while Kotone accepts it and Feng calls her more friendly instead of the Master/Servant relationship, and have an option for Kotone not to accept it and continue to feel guilty, but for Feng to tell her that it's fine that she can't fully accept it and that she still cares for her. Either options gives Feng closure and she DOESN'T change (although the option can exist for her to change, up to you but I feel that can detract from Feng's character a bit). So yeah, I think this is a good expansion to Feng's content.
3: Kotone sparring. Now hear me out on this. I know Kotone already has a lot of content both current and planned, but considering most romance options have the option to spar with your partner for some good battlefuck for domination stuff, I feel this can again give hypnosis lovers even more content (as I personally enjoyed battling against Sofia's and the Oni's hypno content). This could even segway into an earlier point of Kotone teaching the player some hypnosis as one must be resistant (well, in other forms. Doubtful Kotone would ever make the player RESISTANT to her favorite kink) and more knowledgeable of it to fully understand it. Fun times of Kotone teasing the player, knowing that the battle can end so quickly but it's more of a lesson than the point of winning or losing. Either way, I'm curious as to how Kotone's hypnosis would be applied in that format and am more than willing to offer aid to help facilitate the goal of its inclusion.
Hope the dev(s) give this a read! Already looking forward to the next patches with bated breath.
1: Player controlled Hypnosis content. Perhaps Kotone or Tabitha could give the player ideas or train them on how to trance other Monster girls. We already have something similar with the Tengu although that's reversing their spell moreso than us using anything. I just really like the idea of putting the Monster Girls in trances which I thing would do AMAZINGLY well with Indulgence builds as you the player can have those more pleasurable moments with different Monster Girls than doing just "WHO WHO CUMS FIRST COMES LAST!" not that I don't love battle fucking formulas. It's just an idea. I mean, who wouldn't want to really indulge in the different bodies of all the Monster Girls outside of just post-battle domination/sex?
2: Mending Kotone and Feng's rocky relationship. It was said earlier by the dev that kotone already has a lot of content over the other Monster Girls and still have more content planed for
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3: Kotone sparring. Now hear me out on this. I know Kotone already has a lot of content both current and planned, but considering most romance options have the option to spar with your partner for some good battlefuck for domination stuff, I feel this can again give hypnosis lovers even more content (as I personally enjoyed battling against Sofia's and the Oni's hypno content). This could even segway into an earlier point of Kotone teaching the player some hypnosis as one must be resistant (well, in other forms. Doubtful Kotone would ever make the player RESISTANT to her favorite kink) and more knowledgeable of it to fully understand it. Fun times of Kotone teasing the player, knowing that the battle can end so quickly but it's more of a lesson than the point of winning or losing. Either way, I'm curious as to how Kotone's hypnosis would be applied in that format and am more than willing to offer aid to help facilitate the goal of its inclusion.
Hope the dev(s) give this a read! Already looking forward to the next patches with bated breath.
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Also L30 I just remembered something! The Succubus Campers mention how in the Capital's Casino people are made into sex slaves and essentially get addicted to it. This could be a fair bit of addiction content and perhaps more hypnosis content for the player. I got a bit excited reading it so here's hoping! I'm also hoping for the flat chested, levitating Rut inducers in the Capital, but I'm also hoping for Galvi expansions, or both.
SO here's hoping to all these things
SO here's hoping to all these things
On the topic of player mind-fuckery, which isn't really all that different to us already being able to talk people into orgasm and throw infinite supplies of aphrodesiacs at them, it'd be nice to have the bat mind-control herself since that's one of her fetishes, something she passively does and would justify why she keeps speaking outloud; maybe she's already hypnotizing herself all the time
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Yes because mind break is the same as dirty talk.
Who the fuck said mind break. I said self-hypnotising. From the chick who outright states hypnotism is her fetish, constantly hypnotizes anyone who hears according to her own words and constantly talks to herself.
And what she says isn't even dirty talk. Its outright asking to be sexually molested, constantly.
And what she says isn't even dirty talk. Its outright asking to be sexually molested, constantly.
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For everyone complaining about Kotone and trying to "fix" her, have you ever stopped for a second and realized that maybe, just MAYBE, Kotone's route is mainly targeting people that actually enjoy and get hard on hypno-slavery? You know, just a crazy thought of mine.
Thanks, L30, for help with the console. I followed your instructions and got rid of that glitched fetish!
Also, thanks for adding a link to the main wiki page, ThresholdMGD!
Also, thanks for adding a link to the main wiki page, ThresholdMGD!
Some people like the fantasy of being mind controlled into orgasmic submission by a glamorous, but nefarious big titty villainess. That's it. That's all of it.
The malesub hypno content involving a descent into submission at the hands of a seductress who gets off on rearranging your brain is hands down the hottest part of the game for me. (Kotone, Mara, Vivian and Venefica FTW.) It won't be for others.
While I agree with its inclusion from a quality of life mechanic angle, the fact Kotone could apologise and remove the brainwashing (depending on how you respond) - without even making you jump through the odd hoop first - actually took away several boner points for me.
Leave her as is for the fans that like her as she is. If her concept could be done differently, then doing it as a different character in a different location is the way forward.
Kotone putting being a decent almost-human-being above her libido, apologizing and fixing her mistake is one of the best parts of the games to me. Its a level of class most similar games just don't have. It takes her from ''nefarious big titty villainess'' to what she actually is; a person with an actual job, not a villain, not a monster who lives purely for pleasure, and not an asshole who puts herself above everyone else thousands of years after this was acceptable even after being called out.
It is her literal day job to man that side of the temple. She's not a villain.
It is her literal day job to man that side of the temple. She's not a villain.
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Oh, I certainly enjoy debating and discussing content as well, a brief look through this thread or a visit to MGD's Discord will allow one to see my walls of text scattered all over. Although my activity online has diminished in general as of late due to work being rather busy due to current events, but I digress. As you said, fair points were raised on both sides, so it seemed a fine point to draw the current discussion to a close before it devolved into a back-and-forth argument retreading the same ground. Sure, the debate could still be enjoyable, but it wouldn't serve much of a purpose by that point and would just use time better spent elsewhere. Besides, if I spent all of my limited free time debating a single topic, I wouldn't be able to do any more work on the wiki or anything else I need or want to do. So yes, while it was enjoyable, it reached a fine point to end on for the moment. Now, as for the Will side trials seeming empty...
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That may be a little more than brief now that I've finished, but it also illustrates the earlier point of how easy it is to let a healthy discussion get carried away and turn into a continuous, circular debate that has long since served its purpose. Still I hope that you consider these points and enjoy this as well, doomgal.
Apologies for the delay on this response, work has kept me rather busy the past few days. v23.1 is a full build as well as a bugfix behind. The current version is usually in the title unless it was forgotten when updating the thread. To be absolutely certain, you can always check the first post and see what it lists as the current version in the changelogs and the like or visit Threshold's
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or MGD's
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and there are announcement and changelog channels that will note the current version and inform people when a new build or notable Patreon post, such as a new art teaser, are up.Then as Lazyrick stated, thank you very much for that, updating the game is incredibly easy on PC. If you download a whole new build, just extract it to a new folder and you can start playing immediately. Do not merge the new full build with an older installation as this will cause the game to break and then you'll certainly need a fresh installation of the title. As long as you play on the same PC, then your game will have saves in both the saves folder of the game folder of MGD as well as in the AppData folder. If you want to be extra safe or if you play on multiple computers using an external storage, you can also go into the old installation for MGD, then the game folder to copy the saves folder, and then paste that folder full of saves into the game folder for the new MGD installation.
I do hope that you find this informative, WhatTheHekc.
For point #1, for better or worse the player currently will not have access to the Trance status effect given how powerful it is. The same holds true for Paralysis, as being able to get either status effect to high levels of stacks or full stacks would essentially be an instant win. However, while we cannot use it in combat, there is always the possibility that there could be a character in the future the player could hypno-dom instead. Tabitha seems a potential candidate for her sub path, especially what with taking her in front of a mirror and everything.
For point #2, mending Kotone and Feng's relationship is planned content. We do not really know any specifics of how this will occur and whose side and perspective it will favor more. Feng does seem the likely main character for that story with Kotone being the deuteragonist, but still having a notable role. So while Kotone will clearly be part of the story and it will heal more of her own emotional and mental trauma in the end, it could be a story focused more on healing Feng as well given fragments of her past self and memories of her final moments seem to still exist based on some of Feng's dreams. I'm personally hoping for something of a soft fusion of the old Feng and new Feng, that way the new person Feng is will not vanish, especially as she is likely to be a romantic interest by that point in time, while Kotone's friend of old will be brought back more fully as well. But there's no telling what Threshold ultimately has planned for this story arc.
For point #3, sparring and having fights for fun with Kotone has been discussed before. It may eventually materialize, but that will likely be content that takes a backseat to developing other parts of Kotone first as it is not critical to completing her story. Not to mention all of the other characters that do need their fair share of content as well, especially individuals like poor Stella who has been virtually unchanged since her introduction in the Forest Dungeon.
Yeah, the Casino does have a reputation of turning those who become indebted to the house into debt-slaves and have them work off their debt, which typically has them turned into pleasure addicts and usually wind up married and give up their adventure by the end. Suffice to say, it is a known point that the Luck Commander who also is the owner of the Casino, and likely several other businesses given their financial might, is not a very nice person and likely not very good as well. They are petty enough that they would apparently cut off all supplies to the Will-Power Temple as punishment if the Oni Twins spoiled her introduction and revealed her name and Monster Girl species based on conversations with the twins. I could certainly see the Casino Owner/Luck Commander offering another findom addiction in a different flavor than the financial domination addiction Venefica offers considering the Luck Commander is someone who uses their economic clout to achieve their ends and may be the type to view money as power.
I do hope that you find this enlightening, Anarchistic.
By dev mode, do you perhaps mean the console? If so, then yes, thisuhm. Does anyone know how to activate dev mode for the latest release?
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I do hope that this is the question you were asking and that you find this a satisfying answer to your query, MenmaYu.
Now as for general update news, a little balancing has been occurring again as details and insights from the relatively recent balance update have been determined. Firstly, Restraint durability is no longer increased by status effect duration via perks or Intelligence; Enfeeble's stat scaling with Intelligence has been lowered from 35% to 25%; the base Stun chance of Electrify, Spank, and Whip has been lowered from 25% to 20% and their stat scaling has been lowered from 25% to 20% as well; Magical Binding and Bondage Net now only require 10 of their related stat to learn, down from 20, and both now cost 500 Eros to learn rather 1000; the Schemer and Thoughtful Schemer perks now only give 5% increase to status effect chance, down from 10%; and Tricky now requires the Schemer perk to learn.
Now on the enemy side of things, many enemies have had their status effect resistances change, generally to lower their resistance to Stun and Restraint effects, though in a few cases it was increased. An example of the latter is Mizuko receiving a massive buff to her Sleep resistance while Himika has instead received a heavy buff to her Stun resistance. Sofia is not immune to Stun, but her resistance to both Stun and Restraint will increase by 10% each difficult increase for her fights. Additionally, Stun now has a cool down period before someone can be stunned again which is generally 3 turns, but enemies can have different delays. The StunDelay perk type was added to mostly change the delay rates for enemies, as an example Shizu's is short and Sofia's is longer. While this is to prevent most enemies, as well as the player, from being stunlocked, Shizu's a good little painslut and can still be stunlocked essentially. It is also planned that a similar delay system will be added to Restraint effects.
Basically, the takeaway is that crowd control builds were overpowered and were able to keep enemies locked down with enough investment in boosting status effect chances and duration, so this is being balanced to be more in line with the rest of the game. So, it should still be powerful and effective, just not brokenly so. Besides, between Stun, Restraint, and Sleep, enemies can still be disabled for a good portion, if not the entire, fight with the exception of Superboss fights where absolute immunity or near immunity to certain effects can be expected.
I do hope that everyone interested in this information finds this at least a little useful.