- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
I can empathize. It's not my goal to preach anything, just to explain in a tasteful way. If it comes off as preachy, I haven't met my goal.
Both art styles look great, looking forward to seeing what comes out of the new artist.
I do want to add that the story and the dialogue are great and kept me immersed throughout. Some of the gameplay did however seem repetitive - Exploring in the forest just felt like I was doing the same thing just to find a new area, then exploring again in that new area to find other new areas. I wish there was more options here, something else to do other than exploring and interacting with the new creatures. Likewise, I'm sure you're planning on adding some sort of automation for tending the fields, but it would be nice if there were some better tools or something to either reduce the energy or increase the amount of money earned. All in all, Keep up the good work, the game is moving in a good direction.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
I'm happy to hear you say that!
I understand and agree. Some of the random exploration events are mini quests: The well and the statue. Maybe when I add much more of those, it'll seem less repetitive? If not, I'm open to ideas.
Like what? I have lots of other ideas that aren't implemented yet, but I'd like to hear yours.
there are ways of getting status effects that can give you more energy or change the cost of care activities. There will be more effects in the future and new ways of getting them.
I was thinking of introducing this concept of composting. It would be just like alchemy and other fantasy games. You mix together items to affect all sorts of things in the game. This would include all the things you mentioned above. Not sure how that sounds.
To be fair, often it just outrights starts with the discussion of existence of people and then no good faith can ever be established. We had it here already, even though that one was deleted.
But I wish you everything that you succeed. I like the game so far, same as the project before, but you might realize that porn fans, same as anime fans, really really like to cling to words that hurt people.
I understand "trans" to change the born sex to the opposite sex because they feel to be their born sex is NOT the sex for them. To me that is a lifestyle choice which I have to accept (and I do). If it is the person's wish - that's it. In terms of games I have seen, it is either M2F or F2M. Sometimes it is not that straight but a little bit more complicated. If you want it in a game, go for it. Your fans either love it or skip it. I have enjoyed such games.
I'm not a philisopher of words and I might be wrong, but a dickgirl or shemale is a female looking person that has that male part additionally. Could be fully 2 sexes or something else (just for fetish and not for reproduction). This is a bit more fantastic because 2 sexes in 1 person seem to be not very realistic. Or better said very rare in our real world. Gamewise it's no problem for me. A game is a fantastic world and you can make it happen. Like "magic" in Harry Potter or The Lord Of The Rings.
I don't care much about what is in a game. I care about "is it entertaining?" Make good content and people will love it. Make bad content and people will leave.
Thus I sum up: surprise me! Don't teach me! Entertain me!
Good luck!
I'm not a philisopher of words and I might be wrong, but a dickgirl or shemale is a female looking person that has that male part additionally. Could be fully 2 sexes or something else (just for fetish and not for reproduction). This is a bit more fantastic because 2 sexes in 1 person seem to be not very realistic. Or better said very rare in our real world. Gamewise it's no problem for me. A game is a fantastic world and you can make it happen. Like "magic" in Harry Potter or The Lord Of The Rings.
I don't care much about what is in a game. I care about "is it entertaining?" Make good content and people will love it. Make bad content and people will leave.
Thus I sum up: surprise me! Don't teach me! Entertain me!
Good luck!
- Oct 5, 2017
- 7,359
- 9,723
That isn't what a shemale means. A shemale is a woman with the secondary sex characteristics of a female but the primary sex characteristics of a male. Dick and balls without a pussy. She may be but is not necessarily a transwoman.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
I'm far from an expert on this, but I try to research the topic often. When I look up the definition, it says: denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex. What's the difference? This image helps me:
I haven't researched the former word, but I know the latter is considered a slur to most trans people. It's still used, even sometimes by members of the trans community, because it's the term that's most likely to get results if you search for trans porn. Those that make the porn are less likely to be found unless they use that word.
I just learned that over 1 out of 100 people actually are more than 2 sexes in 1 person. It's called intersex/hermaphrodite (the latter may be a slur, I haven't researched that yet).
I think that's why the term futa usually isn't considered a slur. it has a magical Association to it. The other terms don't. Those are terms that have a painful history to them.
Thank you. I will say I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive.
That is not my understanding. My understanding is that it is a slur to refer to a trans woman. (I'm confident that it is a slur, I'm not confident that it refers to a trans woman.)
I accept the corrections and additional information.
I hope it was clear that I am NOT harboring any prejudice. Additionally I would never try to attack or degrade any person. I was just looking for factual clarification. - Anything a person does or believes is private business, if other people are not put to suffer for it.
On the other hand a game is a work of fiction and as such anything can be used. Don't argue much about reallife terms or connections. Discussing reallife here would create problems which we don't need.
If the persons in the game get a good description or picture along with the term, it would help clear the perception for the game and maybe outside (that's a kind of "teaching" I would accept).
As seen with the corrections on my statements I don't think that many people know of the differences. I'm fairly eager to learn almost any kind of information and I did not have full knowledge. And I guess that those topics are NOT communicated fully to a wide audience. Thus misconceptions might be common.
I hope it was clear that I am NOT harboring any prejudice. Additionally I would never try to attack or degrade any person. I was just looking for factual clarification. - Anything a person does or believes is private business, if other people are not put to suffer for it.
On the other hand a game is a work of fiction and as such anything can be used. Don't argue much about reallife terms or connections. Discussing reallife here would create problems which we don't need.
If the persons in the game get a good description or picture along with the term, it would help clear the perception for the game and maybe outside (that's a kind of "teaching" I would accept).
As seen with the corrections on my statements I don't think that many people know of the differences. I'm fairly eager to learn almost any kind of information and I did not have full knowledge. And I guess that those topics are NOT communicated fully to a wide audience. Thus misconceptions might be common.
- Oct 5, 2017
- 7,359
- 9,723
Just because a word can be used as a slur doesn't mean it is inherently one. 'Trap' is also used as a slur against transwomen, that doesn't mean it isn't also used as a neutral descriptor for a fictional character type.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
Don't worry, I understood that.
I'm having trouble consolidating these two points you're making. Are you saying you are interested in this information but you don't want it in the game?
Hmm, can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I'm understanding your point.
I am personally interested because I did not know about it. But I would like it in the game in some unobtrusive way.
If a person gets a description (looks and features) or a picture that is showing of what it means, it is information that belongs to the game AND adds information without being a lecture. It's just part of the game and it was made primarily for entertainment.
That is how I would like it, but I am not responsible for the game. I am just a consumer or fan. Thus I might state my opinions, but the developer is not necessarily forced to put MY POV into HIS game. It's his game after all. I may love it, I may play it or I may leave it, but I'm NOT making it.
As any game is a work of fiction, a developer may put into it reality or fiction or even new things nobody has heard of before. I will evaluate the result for ME. If I like the story (or looks), I'll play it. If I don't like it, I would shut up.
Currently, I like it - a lot. And I'm interested in how it will go on. Otherwise I would not argue about it.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
Yep, same as me.
heh np. I just like to understand others' opinions as best I can.
aw
- Oct 5, 2017
- 7,359
- 9,723
Elaborate on how trap is used as a slur or on how it's used as a descriptor? I'm not sure I can even do the former without getting moderated.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
Sorry for the confusion. I said sh***ale is considered a slur. Your reply was, "Just because a word can be used as a slur doesn't mean it is inherently one." I was asking, "Okay, what's your point?"
- Is it that you should still use these words when you don't intend it to be offensive?
- Is it that you shouldn't use these words because a group of people will be offended?
- etc.
Last edited:
- Oct 5, 2017
- 7,359
- 9,723
1.
When I explained what it means and you said "That's not my understanding", that it means something else, it sounded like you were saying that that is all it can mean.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
First of all, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. Still need some clarification though:
- Does this apply to all words or only those that aren't inherently a slur?
- Are there some words that didn't start as inherent slurs, but now they are now inherent slurs?
- if yes, how/when/why does this transition happen?
- Oct 5, 2017
- 7,359
- 9,723
- There are no words that are inherently slurs, that's not how language works. Words get their meanings from how they are used. Unless you mean words that have no usage other than as slurs (at least currently), in which case the question of using them for their other meanings is moot.
- Assuming the definition above, obviously, as well as the reverse. Language is fluid.
- The same way any words shift in meaning over time. Words come into and fall out of fashion, and what those words are used for do as well.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
Monster Girl Farmer v0.10 has a whole new task system!
Hello all! The main focus of this release is the concept of tasks. See, in the previous versions, if you wanted to receive items from monster girls, you spent affection points and received an item immediately -- kind of like you were buying something from a shop. Now, you assign them a task, and when they return from it, you'll receive their items.
The idea is to make the game more management-like. Once you've assigned a girl a task (which still costs affection points), you'll need to spend your energy elsewhere before the task completes. I think the shortest task in the game is 150 energy, or about 2.5 full energy bars. The reason I made it so big is I didn't want the player to feel like as soon as they sent one character on a task, another one returns. With so much time in between, you'll have plenty of time to explore the forest while you wait for them to return.
Anyway, as a famous philosopher once said, "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." And with this release, I want you to punch me in the mouth... I had a plan for tasks, but I don't know how it will be received, so please leave me feedback by filling out an in-game survey at any time.
There are other features to talk about, but this post is already too long, so I will refer you to the
The last thing I want to talk about is what to expect in the next release. Artwork! Pride -- my new artist -- is starting, so there will finally be some new artwork! Thank you for your patience on the matter. As for me, I think it's still worthwhile to work on new features. You should be able to sell items and purchase upgrades in Amy's shop. The release after that will add new story content. I know I'm personally looking forward to Fairies moving in and setting up a magic shop. But I don't decide that: it's the pledges that choose the next character. If you'd like to influence the vote, it only costs a dollar.
As always -- enjoy! And don't forget to tell me what you think. Good or bad, it really helps me improve the game.
PS: A special shout out to Coomer Bear. They worked really hard at finding typos that needed fixing.
Hello all! The main focus of this release is the concept of tasks. See, in the previous versions, if you wanted to receive items from monster girls, you spent affection points and received an item immediately -- kind of like you were buying something from a shop. Now, you assign them a task, and when they return from it, you'll receive their items.
The idea is to make the game more management-like. Once you've assigned a girl a task (which still costs affection points), you'll need to spend your energy elsewhere before the task completes. I think the shortest task in the game is 150 energy, or about 2.5 full energy bars. The reason I made it so big is I didn't want the player to feel like as soon as they sent one character on a task, another one returns. With so much time in between, you'll have plenty of time to explore the forest while you wait for them to return.
Anyway, as a famous philosopher once said, "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." And with this release, I want you to punch me in the mouth... I had a plan for tasks, but I don't know how it will be received, so please leave me feedback by filling out an in-game survey at any time.
There are other features to talk about, but this post is already too long, so I will refer you to the
You must be registered to see the links
. The last thing I want to talk about is what to expect in the next release. Artwork! Pride -- my new artist -- is starting, so there will finally be some new artwork! Thank you for your patience on the matter. As for me, I think it's still worthwhile to work on new features. You should be able to sell items and purchase upgrades in Amy's shop. The release after that will add new story content. I know I'm personally looking forward to Fairies moving in and setting up a magic shop. But I don't decide that: it's the pledges that choose the next character. If you'd like to influence the vote, it only costs a dollar.
As always -- enjoy! And don't forget to tell me what you think. Good or bad, it really helps me improve the game.
PS: A special shout out to Coomer Bear. They worked really hard at finding typos that needed fixing.
- Jun 1, 2017
- 356
- 493
Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy working on the release.
I've been hard-pressed to find a trans person who doesn't consider sh***ale to be a slur. Those that don't hate it seem to merely tolerate it; they don't defend its use.
Your experience may be different from mine, of course, but every definition of sh***ale I've found says the word is offensive. Wikipedia says it has been used pejoratively since the 19th century, though with a different meaning than today. And it says, "Most people in the transgender community consider the term offensive and degrading." In other words, I can only find evidence the word is offensive. If there is a non-offensive version of the word, I can't find it.
Above, you said the word should/could still be used when the speaker doesn't intend offense. In my opinion, that depends on the context. If someone is totally ignorant of the meaning, I agree they should get a pass until they are informed.
But when someone says a word offends them, and you reply, "I didn't intend to, and for that reason, I'm still going to use it," how do you think they will feel? They'd probably perceive that as an insult and a disregard for their feelings, right? At the very least, annoyance and resentment, I'd think -- do you disagree? If you disagree, how do you think they'll feel? If you agree, there must be something more important than their feelings to justify using the word. What is that justification?
I think I understand your opinion well enough to reply, though I'll admit there are some parts I'm not sure I understand (that's probably more me than you).
I've been hard-pressed to find a trans person who doesn't consider sh***ale to be a slur. Those that don't hate it seem to merely tolerate it; they don't defend its use.
Your experience may be different from mine, of course, but every definition of sh***ale I've found says the word is offensive. Wikipedia says it has been used pejoratively since the 19th century, though with a different meaning than today. And it says, "Most people in the transgender community consider the term offensive and degrading." In other words, I can only find evidence the word is offensive. If there is a non-offensive version of the word, I can't find it.
Above, you said the word should/could still be used when the speaker doesn't intend offense. In my opinion, that depends on the context. If someone is totally ignorant of the meaning, I agree they should get a pass until they are informed.
But when someone says a word offends them, and you reply, "I didn't intend to, and for that reason, I'm still going to use it," how do you think they will feel? They'd probably perceive that as an insult and a disregard for their feelings, right? At the very least, annoyance and resentment, I'd think -- do you disagree? If you disagree, how do you think they'll feel? If you agree, there must be something more important than their feelings to justify using the word. What is that justification?
I really like your writing style and wouldn't mind additions of many characters to cater for everyone, but it'll be more preferable if some of these more fetishized contents like futa/trans are entirely skippable.. i'd love to keep playing this game