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Zeyla

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Now years has passed and i have seen no progression, no news or improvements. He describes this game as he's special child that requires lots of care and time to be polished into a perfect gem.

Now the whole thing that "this will take years" is a load of bullshit. Putting together character animations takes time, but it will not take a year to put together couple of shitty sex scenes, let alone NOTHING. The player character movement is stock unity player with small tweaks and can be put to gether in minutes, the world can be modeled in couple of weeks by a person who works 8 - 16 a day
So I started doing 3D a year ago, it's been a dream to make a game since I was a child, but never had the courage, anyways, I'm saying this because now I ACTUALLY have some insight on how games are made with blender and unity, and to add to what you said first and foremost, it's not "his special child" if it was he would put more hard work into it, for example all the buildings, roads, rocks, trees, etc, are stock images slapped onto it, I'm saying he did not make those textures himself, and the base models of the buildings are squares and rectangles, I can tell you making his whole map takes about 1 week at best. When I make a building I sculpt by hand 3-4 different bricks, that I then copy paste and rotate into different directions to give the walls different looks, and more importantly DEPTH, his buildings are flat, since it's stock image. (also kinda pixelized, go check it out xD)

Secondly yeah making characters is a bit harder, and animating takes a while, BUT The last character he showcased, the bird (raptor) girl. He actually admitted (spectacular coming from him, I know) that it took him 2 WEEKS to make that model. Now no offense for a beginner I can get it takes time. But a guy who has been working on a game for over 2 years by that point. And it takes him 2 weeks for one model? (not animated by the way) He's either slacking, or should not be in the game industry to begin with. Just check on youtube some modeling artists, they make better models in like 10-15h that's ONE DAY.
 

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So I started doing 3D a year ago, it's been a dream to make a game since I was a child, but never had the courage, anyways, I'm saying this because now I ACTUALLY have some insight on how games are made with blender and unity, and to add to what you said first and foremost, it's not "his special child" if it was he would put more hard work into it, for example all the buildings, roads, rocks, trees, etc, are stock images slapped onto it, I'm saying he did not make those textures himself, and the base models of the buildings are squares and rectangles, I can tell you making his whole map takes about 1 week at best. When I make a building I sculpt by hand 3-4 different bricks, that I then copy paste and rotate into different directions to give the walls different looks, and more importantly DEPTH, his buildings are flat, since it's stock image. (also kinda pixelized, go check it out xD)

Secondly yeah making characters is a bit harder, and animating takes a while, BUT The last character he showcased, the bird (raptor) girl. He actually admitted (spectacular coming from him, I know) that it took him 2 WEEKS to make that model. Now no offense for a beginner I can get it takes time. But a guy who has been working on a game for over 2 years by that point. And it takes him 2 weeks for one model? (not animated by the way) He's either slacking, or should not be in the game industry to begin with. Just check on youtube some modeling artists, they make better models in like 10-15h that's ONE DAY.
Your only mistake is assuming he works more than the load times of Genshin take.
 

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So I started doing 3D a year ago, it's been a dream to make a game since I was a child, but never had the courage, anyways, I'm saying this because now I ACTUALLY have some insight on how games are made with blender and unity, and to add to what you said first and foremost, it's not "his special child" if it was he would put more hard work into it, for example all the buildings, roads, rocks, trees, etc, are stock images slapped onto it, I'm saying he did not make those textures himself, and the base models of the buildings are squares and rectangles, I can tell you making his whole map takes about 1 week at best. When I make a building I sculpt by hand 3-4 different bricks, that I then copy paste and rotate into different directions to give the walls different looks, and more importantly DEPTH, his buildings are flat, since it's stock image. (also kinda pixelized, go check it out xD)

Secondly yeah making characters is a bit harder, and animating takes a while, BUT The last character he showcased, the bird (raptor) girl. He actually admitted (spectacular coming from him, I know) that it took him 2 WEEKS to make that model. Now no offense for a beginner I can get it takes time. But a guy who has been working on a game for over 2 years by that point. And it takes him 2 weeks for one model? (not animated by the way) He's either slacking, or should not be in the game industry to begin with. Just check on youtube some modeling artists, they make better models in like 10-15h that's ONE DAY.
He's been "working" on the game for over 8 years now, so... If he would have been actually doing it, it would be finished a looong time ago, but he just spent that time on genshin, so yeah, atomic slacker. And now he goes all like... IlL nEvEr fIniSH tHe GaMe In 4 yEars, i MiGht hIRe A 2d sTudIo tO mAke ScEnEs, bUT i DunNo WhErE to fInD oNe... *Closes Discord, opens Genshin Impact*
 

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IlL nEvEr fIniSH tHe GaMe In 4 yEars, i MiGht hIRe A 2d sTudIo tO mAke ScEnEs
I was not aware he said that. What a moron, people got interested in the first place because people want a "good" 3D game so many fcking 2D already exist (porn games I mean) So if he is serious about turning to 2D he really does not care about his audience, I mean I guess that was already obvious but we got even more confirmation now
 

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I was not aware he said that. What a moron, people got interested in the first place because people want a "good" 3D game so many fcking 2D already exist (porn games I mean) So if he is serious about turning to 2D he really does not care about his audience, I mean I guess that was already obvious but we got even more confirmation now
It's true unfortunately, anon on mggg posted it a few threads ago as a screenshot. He said it on his Discord in September last year but only as an idea. It was a little over a year ago so hopefully he changed his mind or it was just an idea he had and nothing more.
These kickstarter trainwrecks are amusing to watch until it happens to something you like.
 
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I was not aware he said that. What a moron, people got interested in the first place because people want a "good" 3D game so many fcking 2D already exist (porn games I mean) So if he is serious about turning to 2D he really does not care about his audience, I mean I guess that was already obvious but we got even more confirmation now
there is a real desire for good 3d games out there new life revamp from beggar comes to mind maybe succulence besides that i have not found any and i personaly love pov in porn games so monstergirl island had potential, that plus monstergirls are timeless, whatever.
 
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kratoscar2008

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I wouldnt mind a 2d version.
Even better if he just outsource it to someone and they finish games.
Only way I can see Redamz redeem himself without him delivering the game.
Hope he goes through.
 

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I wouldnt mind a 2d version.
Even better if he just outsource it to someone and they finish games.
Only way I can see Redamz redeem himself without him delivering the game.
Hope he goes through.
Disagree, 3D is more unique, better, what has already been done so far on this project and what people paid for. No way should he cop out and do 2D crap.
 

kratoscar2008

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Disagree, 3D is more unique, better, what has already been done so far on this project and what people paid for. No way should he cop out and do 2D crap.
Maybe but I rather he do something with the money he's gotten and we know that he won't let others touch MGI so yeah I will take a 2D game gladly.
 

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Disagree, 3D is more unique, better, what has already been done so far on this project and what people paid for.
Maybe but I rather he do something with the money he's gotten and we know that he won't let others touch MGI so yeah I will take a 2D game gladly.
It is not more unique or better, it's based on preference, that's how art works :D
But I do agree, as I said in my previous post: people got engaged on his patreon because they WANTED a 3D game not 2D, so even if 2D games can be great, that's not the point here.
We want 3D from him, if we want 2D games or more specifically "monster girls" there are a truckload out there. So yeah him changing is BS, sorry to tell you.
That's like if a company makes you pay for an early access game, and then they deliver something completely different than what you signed up for (called a scam BTW). He may not be a company but he is still a developer stop cutting him slack. As a content creator if you decide to sell. You have an unspoken engagement toward your audience.
 

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It is not more unique or better, it's based on preference, that's how art works :D
But I do agree, as I said in my previous post: people got engaged on his patreon because they WANTED a 3D game not 2D, so even if 2D games can be great, that's not the point here.
We want 3D from him, if we want 2D games or more specifically "monster girls" there are a truckload out there. So yeah him changing is BS, sorry to tell you.
That's like if a company makes you pay for an early access game, and then they deliver something completely different than what you signed up for (called a scam BTW). He may not be a company but he is still a developer stop cutting him slack. As a content creator if you decide to sell. You have an unspoken engagement toward your audience.
Meh I'm not as invested into the game as many here so as far as I'm concerned I rather get a 2D game out of him, specially if he is loaded and might get a good artist, than seethe at him in vain and wait for the project that he has clearly no interest in working on somehow get updated.
You are free to disagree and keep waiting for MGI of course, but I will cross my fingers for him to release a 2D game.
 

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Man, I waited years for this to get somewhere, but now I come back to another failed dev who milked the fans of his initial work for nothing. This can be seen as abandoned
 

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"2d, or 3d, maybe 4d whatever just give me monstergirls games. lol
I mean I guess many here suffer from sunk cost syndrome but damn if I wouldnt like the MGI girls with good art like 1616751299995.jpg
But people rather him keep playing Genshin just to fullfill the illusion that he might be working on it instead of funding a related game that could materialize in a finished product? Guess im glad that I saw the writing on the wall and stopped following it for like most of its development.
Luckily for me Redamz does what he damns pleases (As witnessed with his refusal to hire people which is something that many of his supporters have demanded) so he might go through with the 2D idea and now that he has no patreon people dont have any real way to hold him accountable.
 
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Zeyla

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so he might go through with the 2D idea
I would be genuinely surprised if he goes through with it. It does not make sense in any way, he always refused help using the excuse he wanted to do things his way (which I do understand as a fellow developer). Could also be to keep money for himself. But here is a problem that does not make sense. He quit patreon, he's not earning anything anymore, so yeah he might have made bank for a while, but hiring means paying, paying with what money? Apparently people keep saying he spends on genshin, and he probably has to keep some money for food etc. I have a feeling he just said that to buy time, as he usually did, he probably plans on finishing when he gets close to be out of money. But hey I would not be mad if he proves me wrong.
In the meantime I won't hold my breath :)
 

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I would be genuinely surprised if he goes through with it. It does not make sense in any way, he always refused help using the excuse he wanted to do things his way (which I do understand as a fellow developer). Could also be to keep money for himself. But here is a problem that does not make sense. He quit patreon, he's not earning anything anymore, so yeah he might have made bank for a while, but hiring means paying, paying with what money? Apparently people keep saying he spends on genshin, and he probably has to keep some money for food etc. I have a feeling he just said that to buy time, as he usually did, he probably plans on finishing when he gets close to be out of money. But hey I would not be mad if he proves me wrong.
In the meantime I won't hold my breath :)
I mean he was making Dark Cookie levels of income for years, so if he didnt go crazy with the spending the dude is set for life, plus he would sell that finished product on steam and rack up on cash in no time.
So I see more likely for him to hire someone to do something for him while he keeps his original game intact than him actually working on the game he has refused to work in for years.
But yeah he might not do shit but if he goes with the 2D idea then by all means.
 
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