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Thats fine, take as much time as you need. I just wanted an estimate.
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I was wondering, why does Luka seem to have Monster Lord powers?
I understand not wanting to make Luka's powers seem "good", considering he's the literal child of this universe's version of Lucifer, but honestly the names of his Holy Powers seem pretty sinister already to be honest:
Fallen Angel Dance: Fallen Angels are Demons in Catholic/Christian thought
DayStar: A reference to Lucifer being the MorningStar
Ninefold Rakshasa: Rakshasa are cannibalistic spirits in Hinduism that are often considered antagonist in Dharmic literature (I took this one from Wikipedia)
And Heavenly Demon Revival: Demon Revival.
The only one that doesn't seem intrinsically sinister is Flash Kill, and that doesn't seem especially virtuous either.
I understand not wanting to make Luka's powers seem "good", considering he's the literal child of this universe's version of Lucifer, but honestly the names of his Holy Powers seem pretty sinister already to be honest:
Fallen Angel Dance: Fallen Angels are Demons in Catholic/Christian thought
DayStar: A reference to Lucifer being the MorningStar
Ninefold Rakshasa: Rakshasa are cannibalistic spirits in Hinduism that are often considered antagonist in Dharmic literature (I took this one from Wikipedia)
And Heavenly Demon Revival: Demon Revival.
The only one that doesn't seem intrinsically sinister is Flash Kill, and that doesn't seem especially virtuous either.
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Well, for the remake that's a little surprise I'm holding until Ilias War begin. Yes, there's a big change here that some people may disagree. My hint is:
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Didn't she also sluaghter boatloads of monsters before falling and becoming a lot more peacefull to monsters... And made the Angel Halo from 666 Angels I think? Cant really check without replaying thanks to the wiki being removed
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I'm not the most well-versed in MGQ lore, but I don't remember any of that. As for killing monsters, well, she was an angel and there was a war against the monsters before the First was sealed, so, that was a given. But still not nearly important enough.
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Sorry, sometimes I forget there are people here who never finished the VN. But there's a big change here in the remake, so technically isn't a spoiler of this game, only the VN.
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Man, you're right. The Wiki is gone. Damn it. I used it to be sure that everything was consistent and to acquire specific knowledge of Paradox, like names, but with it gone, I'll need to play all Paradox, and replay the original vn making saves in every part to have easy access.
Man... this really is a blow for this project. Do you know if the organizers of the wiki are trying to find someplace else to host it?
EDIT: I found this petition. Even if it serves for nothing at the end, at least it's something. Please, guys, sign it up.
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Ah right, the fandom wiki did close down. It was moved over to Miraheze I believe, just like the MGE wiki. Just look up "Miraheze MGQ Wiki" and you should find it.
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Looks like google isn't a big fan of Miraheze, looking for it doesn't give you the wiki. I guess only using google as a search engine was a mistake. Searching things on other search engines like bing yahoo, may be a better idea.
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I could not agree more with the Wiki going down being a tragedy for our community. I had no idea that this would also effect the game development here as well. I will be sure to sign up for Change.org so make my voice heard on this issue as well.
Thank you for your work on this remake and I hope you have lots of fun playing through the original again and Paradox.
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Guys, I have some updates.
Using a week off work I had I finished writing most of what will be present for the next version. I finished the introduction of Gran Noah, the new quest about Papi's mother, the colosseum, and Yamatai quest.
As far as changes go, the colosseum kept the same premise, but there will be more battles, no rape, and no Alma Elma teaching Luka about Sylph. Instead, Alma will throw the match really soon and have some much-needed character development here. There will be two new conversations with her, one with Luka, and another one with Alice, to flesh out her plot (yeah, the same Torotoro only revealed by the end of the game, I'm bringing it to here, and further developing it later). Aside from that, there aren't any big changes.
Alma Elma will not teach how to use Sylph because I'll introduce here the new Spirit Sidequest system. In the VN the Spirits skills got upgraded by someone teaching Luka how to use them (sometimes even the Spirit herself), but in this new system I'm introducing, the Spirit will come to Luka asking him to go somewhere, you gonna have a small dungeon there, and at the end, there will be a new conversation with each spirit which serves to flesh them out and develop them as well as making them closer to Luka. As such they will perform a ritual to deepen their merging with Luka, increasing his control over their powers. The ritual will include a sex scene that is refusable as always, but if you do, you won't be able to unlock their new skills and only keep the ones you already have. You can change your mind though and if you go back to that place you can still perform the ritual. So if you want to be fully faithful to Alice, now you will actually pay a price. For the first upgrade, the scene will be new and non-vaginal (of course), and for the last, I'll use the existing one.
In general, the spirits were forgotten for most of the story in VN, which is a pity. I'm taking their existing lore (from the new Wikia) in mind when I write them, but I may deviate a little here and there and add stuff too.
Yamatai is practically finished, but there will be some changes here, but they are too many and I'd like to not spoil them. I just promise that the general premise is the same, but taken more seriously. The sacrifice thing is still there, Tamamo will offer help, and the character development that happens here in the VN will still happen in the remake and have the addition of Tamamo reporting to Alice about Top Hat Man infiltration.
I do have a good idea of what I'll do in Plansect, but I still didn't write it yet, the same goes for Undine Springs. I'll probably finish Yamatai and send it to a friend to proofread. I do like to reread the story a few times visualizing it and editing some parts when better ideas come to mind, or when I notice a logical mistake. It's not just a few pages though, it's more than 60 pages.
Well... That's it for now. Thanks for the patience, and sorry for the eternal delays.
Using a week off work I had I finished writing most of what will be present for the next version. I finished the introduction of Gran Noah, the new quest about Papi's mother, the colosseum, and Yamatai quest.
As far as changes go, the colosseum kept the same premise, but there will be more battles, no rape, and no Alma Elma teaching Luka about Sylph. Instead, Alma will throw the match really soon and have some much-needed character development here. There will be two new conversations with her, one with Luka, and another one with Alice, to flesh out her plot (yeah, the same Torotoro only revealed by the end of the game, I'm bringing it to here, and further developing it later). Aside from that, there aren't any big changes.
Alma Elma will not teach how to use Sylph because I'll introduce here the new Spirit Sidequest system. In the VN the Spirits skills got upgraded by someone teaching Luka how to use them (sometimes even the Spirit herself), but in this new system I'm introducing, the Spirit will come to Luka asking him to go somewhere, you gonna have a small dungeon there, and at the end, there will be a new conversation with each spirit which serves to flesh them out and develop them as well as making them closer to Luka. As such they will perform a ritual to deepen their merging with Luka, increasing his control over their powers. The ritual will include a sex scene that is refusable as always, but if you do, you won't be able to unlock their new skills and only keep the ones you already have. You can change your mind though and if you go back to that place you can still perform the ritual. So if you want to be fully faithful to Alice, now you will actually pay a price. For the first upgrade, the scene will be new and non-vaginal (of course), and for the last, I'll use the existing one.
In general, the spirits were forgotten for most of the story in VN, which is a pity. I'm taking their existing lore (from the new Wikia) in mind when I write them, but I may deviate a little here and there and add stuff too.
Yamatai is practically finished, but there will be some changes here, but they are too many and I'd like to not spoil them. I just promise that the general premise is the same, but taken more seriously. The sacrifice thing is still there, Tamamo will offer help, and the character development that happens here in the VN will still happen in the remake and have the addition of Tamamo reporting to Alice about Top Hat Man infiltration.
I do have a good idea of what I'll do in Plansect, but I still didn't write it yet, the same goes for Undine Springs. I'll probably finish Yamatai and send it to a friend to proofread. I do like to reread the story a few times visualizing it and editing some parts when better ideas come to mind, or when I notice a logical mistake. It's not just a few pages though, it's more than 60 pages.
Well... That's it for now. Thanks for the patience, and sorry for the eternal delays.
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As long as the scene isn't rape or femdom (I'm assuming it won't be maledom)... I guess then that's fine.
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You do understand that little boys are actually MALE, right? If you mean an active member of the scene, then you are in the wrong game, the main theme of any MGQ is femdom rape (also known as reverse rape, which is ridiculous, the reverse of rape is consensual sex). These consensual scenes are already a stretch I wanted to make mainly because rape on lose is a terrible idea, since it rewards the player for losing, and now the ones who don't want to lose actually have some sexual content to enjoy, but I can't simply change the personality of the main character just for that.
And I know it might be a shock to you, but some people actually enjoy watching sex scenes mainly led by the female. You can have that without femdom rape.
No, just the usual consensual scene, nothing forced like Alice's scenes.
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I guess that being a reward for losing will be for those who like femdom and rape.
For the rest, the scenes of the game that are consensual have more of a passive MC than really femdom, at least that's the feeling it gives me.
Ok, then it's all fine.
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Well, what I mean is that rewarding the player for losing, kinda goes against what games are about. Yeah, people who aren't a fan of Femdom Rape won't consider that much of a reward, and in the VN that's kinda 97% of all sexual content. I expanded the consensual scenes so that people who don't want to lose or don't like femdom rape actually have some rewards for... you know... winning and progressing.
To be honest, I'm not the biggest fan of femdom rape either. I'm however a fan of horny females leading the sex scenes. So I kinda tolerate femdom rape to enjoy the scene, because it always has that (Same goes for shota in general, I'm not a fan of shota but tolerates it for the horny females). Though some scenes go way overboard for my tastes (vore, for example), so I can't really say I am one of the biggest fans of the sex scenes VN. I played it for the story and characters, really.