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You can't miss anything as long as you do all side quests before heading to the main destination of each area. Alice will always ask you if you are sure to leave.



I just checked a walkthrough plus Ilias entry in the replay room. Yes, you have to get 50 evaluations before chapter 2 happens. There are no downsides in getting this scene.
That sounds like good news. And after I hit 50 Evals, what happens if I keep asking her for help? Also, will the eval count reset when I start the second chapter?
 

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That sounds like good news. And after I hit 50 Evals, what happens if I keep asking her for help? Also, will the eval count reset when I start the second chapter?
Nothing, you only get "rewarded" once for asking too much and there won't be another scene for repeating that. :D
 
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You can also get the scene through Part 1 one monsters in the Monsterpedia, so anything up to Gnome (1).
I got it through Monsterpedia refights.
 

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Oh yeah. So I thought I may as well share something from MGQP Part 2, since it helps understand Eden's character a bit better. Spoilered in case you want to see it yourself in-game or whatever.
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So I think what they're trying to communicate here is that Eden, much like Ilias, doesn't really understand what "living" is. She'll witness things grow and die, but can't empathize with the process itself; it's beneath them as angels, since they're eternal and impervious to harm (to most things). As such, when one of their own leaves this providence (whether it's Michaela, Lucifina, or even Promestein to a degree), they're incapable of understanding it, and perceive it as a kind of betrayal. I don't believe that Eden does what she does purely because Ilias doesn't see her as a proper replacement for Lucifina or Michaela. I think she also perceives L&M's departure as a personal attack, as though they chose to leave, not as a fundamental disagreement with Ilias' dictum, but as a means of rejecting Ilias and herself. Because she can't comprehend the idea that what they're doing is wrong, so the idea doesn't even reach her head at this stage.
Those are my overall thoughts on the matter.
 
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ive been ignored by every forum but the original developer of the monster girl rpgs should focus on a date a live game you know he chooses a spirit at the start kurumi or so on kotori and go to where the spirit tells him to go and their relationship grows and grows or maybe a different engine cause i want a date a live game on here a femdom ive played domina tower of trample but they are unfinished
Good luck with that.
 

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Oh hey. So I decided to do some digging, and it turns out that Miraheze also archived some of the old blog posts on Fandom, including the ones ( , ) that had all those AskFM ToroToro questions, and one of them even has a site where you can see all the answers from those questions.

Just as an example,
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They seem to be released in reverse order as well, so you'd have to read them from the bottom up.
 
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Oh hey. So I decided to do some digging, and it turns out that Miraheze also archived some of the old blog posts on Fandom, including the ones ( , ) that had all those AskFM ToroToro questions, and one of them even has a site where you can see all the answers from those questions.

Just as an example, it turns out that Ilias did have plans with that Goddess Sword she set up, but whatever they were, they were crushed in Alice's clenched fist. So that "You must kill all monsters no matter what" sub-plot you introduced might actually have some plausible merit.


They seem to be released in reverse order as well, so you'd have to read them from the bottom up.
Thank you for the information on Miraheze but plz no spoilers.
 

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Can we expect this remake to actually add anything new or more than in the original?
Have you actually played the game? There are some changes like weapon orbs to add different abilities to the Angel Halo, closing some logic gaps the original never bothered to address, more freedom in exploring and not being forced to the railway VN boundaries and a few more things. The first continent only offers so much possibilities.

The true magic will happen on Sentora due to way more landscape to add stuff than Ilias Continent would allow both in space and on a logical aspect.
 
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Have you actually played the game? There are some changes like weapon orbs to add different abilities to the Angel Halo, closing some logic gaps the original never bothered to address, more freedom in exploring and not being forced to the railway VN boundaries and a few more things. The first continent only offers so much possibilities.

The true magic will happen on Sentora due to way more landscape to add stuff than Ilias Continent would allow both in space and on a logical aspect.
I haven't played it yet,i wouldn't be asking if I did now would I?
 

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Ok, guys. I did die. After so long since my last post I managed to finish writing all major quests except for the final one, for which I already have a good sketch.

Spoiler alert

I'm really making this post to discuss a little about Plansect quest, since I'm planning to make a few changes to it, but that I think are for the better.

First of all, Torotoro never gave us any idea as to why the races were fighting. I understand that it wasn't his intention to have the player ponder as to which side was right and which was wrong and just explore the tragedy of war. But as you already know me, of course, that's not enough for me, so yeah, I'll be exploring more of this.

I wanted to give them a realistic reason to fight so I began thinking about the modern conflicts and there's one that fits the bill. And no, it's not Ukraine. That doesn't work here since there's a clear idiot who is using guns where diplomacy should be the correct weapon (Though Russian and Chinese diplomacy seems to be "threatening until submission"), that's not the case for Plansect conflict at all.

The conflict I choose is really fitting for this story. Israel and Palestine. Yeah, I know, people consider this a controversy, but seriously, it's perfect. When talking about this conflict people tend to just pick a side and ignore the reasons of the other while justifying all kinds of abuses. Kinda reminds Luka when he entered Plansect, don't you think?

So the gist of it will be: Insects lived there, got kicked by the humans during Black Alice war, humans didn't colonize, Plants came there, rebuild the city from the ashes, insects began moving there, during the current war, they migrated there in high number, now they want more political power, the plants refused to give it to them, they got fed up, and bang, war.

So the plants gonna take the role of Muslims, insects the role of Israel, and Alice the role of the UK, getting fed up with that conflict and washing her hands.

I'll, of course, remove some of the big details of the actual conflict, for example, there will be no Jerusalem here nor anything related to religion.

I just want to make it clear that I'm not defending either side. Neither am I saying the solution for that mess is to do as Luka did and crush both sides. In fiction, you can take liberties and simplify things, but in real life, things usually aren't that simple.

With that out the way, I decided to replace most monster girls here. Sincerely, those are the worst designs of the entire game. I'm taking monster girls from other parts of MGQ like Auraune and dryad, as well as monster girls from Paradox and other games to replace them. Alra Priestess had a good design and some cool CGs in Paradox, so she stays. As for the queen bee and her hornets, they don't have a CG, so are being replaced too. After thinking, I decided to replace them with arachnes to fit the insect theme (Yeah, I know spiders aren't insects since insects have 6 legs, and spiders have 8, but it's close enough). The arachnes of Paradox will replace the hornets and Arachne Lord will be pulled to here to replace Queen Bee.

As for the people who didn't want to fight and fled... Well, that's bullshit. Any army is just as strong as the economy behind it, you can't have a war without someone producing at least supplies. So I'm replacing them with something a little more realistic, the civilian population.

As for the reward scene, It's going to be Arachne Lord's "Nipplejob" (not sure how that is called). I'm making a few changes to the dialogs so she will still be glad you changed sides at the last minute and as such saved the insect civilians who would be wiped out. The CG is a little bondage, but well, let's say she still held a little grudge.

Well, that's it for now. Things may be progressing slowly, but are progressing. I don't intend to give up on this project until its completion. Thanks for the patience.
 

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Ok, guys. I did die. After so long since my last post I managed to finish writing all major quests except for the final one, for which I already have a good sketch.

Spoiler alert

I'm really making this post to discuss a little about Plansect quest, since I'm planning to make a few changes to it, but that I think are for the better.

First of all, Torotoro never gave us any idea as to why the races were fighting. I understand that it wasn't his intention to have the player ponder as to which side was right and which was wrong and just explore the tragedy of war. But as you already know me, of course, that's not enough for me, so yeah, I'll be exploring more of this.

I wanted to give them a realistic reason to fight so I began thinking about the modern conflicts and there's one that fits the bill. And no, it's not Ukraine. That doesn't work here since there's a clear idiot who is using guns where diplomacy should be the correct weapon (Though Russian and Chinese diplomacy seems to be "threatening until submission"), that's not the case for Plansect conflict at all.

The conflict I choose is really fitting for this story. Israel and Palestine. Yeah, I know, people consider this a controversy, but seriously, it's perfect. When talking about this conflict people tend to just pick a side and ignore the reasons of the other while justifying all kinds of abuses. Kinda reminds Luka when he entered Plansect, don't you think?

So the gist of it will be: Insects lived there, got kicked by the humans during Black Alice war, humans didn't colonize, Plants came there, rebuild the city from the ashes, insects began moving there, during the current war, they migrated there in high number, now they want more political power, the plants refused to give it to them, they got fed up, and bang, war.

So the plants gonna take the role of Muslims, insects the role of Israel, and Alice the role of the UK, getting fed up with that conflict and washing her hands.

I'll, of course, remove some of the big details of the actual conflict, for example, there will be no Jerusalem here nor anything related to religion.

I just want to make it clear that I'm not defending either side. Neither am I saying the solution for that mess is to do as Luka did and crush both sides. In fiction, you can take liberties and simplify things, but in real life, things usually aren't that simple.

With that out the way, I decided to replace most monster girls here. Sincerely, those are the worst designs of the entire game. I'm taking monster girls from other parts of MGQ like Auraune and dryad, as well as monster girls from Paradox and other games to replace them. Alra Priestess had a good design and some cool CGs in Paradox, so she stays. As for the queen bee and her hornets, they don't have a CG, so are being replaced too. After thinking, I decided to replace them with arachnes to fit the insect theme (Yeah, I know spiders aren't insects since insects have 6 legs, and spiders have 8, but it's close enough). The arachnes of Paradox will replace the hornets and Arachne Lord will be pulled to here to replace Queen Bee.

As for the people who didn't want to fight and fled... Well, that's bullshit. Any army is just as strong as the economy behind it, you can't have a war without someone producing at least supplies. So I'm replacing them with something a little more realistic, the civilian population.

As for the reward scene, It's going to be Arachne Lord's "Nipplejob" (not sure how that is called). I'm making a few changes to the dialogs so she will still be glad you changed sides at the last minute and as such saved the insect civilians who would be wiped out. The CG is a little bondage, but well, let's say she still held a little grudge.

Well, that's it for now. Things may be progressing slowly, but are progressing. I don't intend to give up on this project until its completion. Thanks for the patience.
Nice to have you back even though you died. :p Oh that sounds interesting. I love choices which one of both battle parties I can join and not being forced, like in the VN's, to fight for both of them while Luka isn't thinking for a bit that this will have a major impact. X3

Paradox handled that situation very well with pro insects, pro plants or peace.

It gets especially good if both parties acted in horrible ways and the player is faced with a moral defeat no matter which side he took. Makes you think about the whole fight and how pointless it was to be engaged since only death was the outcome.
 
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Nice to have you back even though you died. :p Oh that sounds interesting. I love choices which one of both battle parties I can join and not being forced, like in the VN's, to fight for both of them while Luka isn't thinking for a bit that this will have a major impact. X3

Paradox handled that situation very well with pro insects, pro plants or peace.
Well, I'm still following the VN, so there's no choice here. I didn't even know you could choose sides in paradox.
 
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