VN Ren'Py Abandoned Moving Out [Day 9b] [APA]

[YogSothoth1982]

Licking the face doesn't lead to beastiality. You have to want it to happen

..But I mean, literally nothing happened with either choice. The dog licked her face...like a dog. So on what grounds do you make this judgement of the character? Is a dog licking a person's face sexual now? I am not interested in this content either btw and I do not know how the dev plans to implement this content further, but I think this assessment of the character is premature given what was shown(at this point in the game). As far as she is concerned, it was a friendly dog. She only showed interest in having a pet and nothing to do with....that.

So again what are you using to make this assessment?

Edit: To me this kind of thinking doesn't hold much water because in general a dev could write characters to openly denounce having any interest in doing certain actions based on a single toggle whether it is in a menu for the player to select or a choice in the game universe that the MC decides through player choice. This meta level character assessment is just too much imo. It is a made up story and the character's motivations can be as mailable as the author wants them to be. As long as there is logical consistency within each path, there shouldn't be a reason to call them into question on this meta level. Beyond that, then the author would be at fault.

Idk if this is a good analogy or not but hopefully it gets the point across. If a guy and a girl like each other but the girl cannot stand his drinking habits, but then the guy sees this and is willing to put in the work to go sober, should she dumpster him anyway? I think there is something to be said about a person that goes out of their way to do/not do something just for you even though they may not necessarily want to but do it anyway because they value you more than that thing. As far as in game choices matching this pattern, this is my general outlook on it.

Mind you. this is different from the scenario that you presented, which is indeed sus, but again it is not indicative of what is happening in the game at this point in time. You have jumped to that conclusion.

Personally, I think that the important thing is that there is an option that closes that path, and I suppose that once chosen we won't have to deal with it anymore.

 

[Fazed]

na, I said your post is a reductio ad ridiculum, and now you are projecting, but it's okay if you didn't play the game.
You may say that nothing happened and I can't (and don't care to) really disprove it. I selected the path without the dog, so I didn't saw it, but the tags on the thread do not agree with you.

...What? Is there a misunderstanding here? It is precisely because I played the game that I can give this perspective. Starr didnt give a shit more about the dog than wanting to have a pet. Hell The mc is the one that stood there staring at the dogs dick like a weirdo(if you selected the other option)
It seems to me that you are presenting a false narrative and trying to defend it. There is nothing to disprove about my statements.

So again based on what is actually in the game there is no basis on which to call Starr's character into question regarding this theme.
The only way a person would argue differently is if they did not play the path or the game and are making an assumption as to what happened.

"Dog licks face = want to fuck dog" is what that fallacious argument would be. It is ridiculous to hold this position.
For all we know, it could happen with a completely different character entirely. Only the Dev would know.

 

[Fazed]

Personally, I think that the important thing is that there is an option that closes that path, and I suppose that once chosen we won't have to deal with it anymore.

I believe that is what the option does. The script sets a flag to false or true depending.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I believe that is what the option does. The script sets a flag to false or true depending.

Well, for me there is no problem about it. I've chosen false and now I won't have to deal with it.

 

[Fazed]

Well, for me there is no problem about it. I've chosen false and now I won't have to deal with it.

Which is what the reasonable thing to do is, I would say.
Instead we have some here that are, "jumping the gun" making thing up and trying to defend them as fact.

 

[CamaroFan432]

I don't care about if you find the scene hot or not nor am I interested in learning about your thoughts on lesbian porn. I agreed with you that all the scenes needed to be implemented first and I was merely expressing my opinion as well in the same post.

I don't know, why you get so aggressive over a mere answer to your post, that was a reply to mine. But when I see your extrem reaction, I suggest you won't reply to my posts anymore and I won't reply to yours either in the future. I don't need to interact with people, that get upset because other people have different interests and just state them as a reply.

 

[Fazed]

e.g. to use a more obvious example, if the choice to stop NTR, is MC stopping the guy, that means had MC not been there, she would have cheated.

...Or the LI could be in peril and the dude could have r*aped/taken advantage of and possibly killed the LI, closing her path forever. The MC, through player decisions, would have either saved her, been too weak if he failed, or purposely let it happen. Not that I would necessarily want that possibility in a harem game anyway but just saying that there is nuance to that scenario you presented and depending on the details of the plot it doesn't not necessarily have to be linked to what the LI may want. Then it really is up the MC /player to decide...

 

[Krynh]

I don't know, why you get so aggressive over a mere answer to your post, that was a reply to mine. But when I see your extrem reaction, I suggest you won't reply to my posts anymore and I won't reply to yours either in the future. I don't need to interact with people, that get upset because other people have different interests and just state them as a reply.

Ha, I wasn't upset. I just wasn't interested in your telling me exactly why you weren't interested in lesbian sex . You said so the first time.


Edit: actually, I was very upset. As the creator of lesbian sex anyone who hates it should have their head chopped off.

 

[Sylaann]

Hi there, I like the story, but please :

you was - > you were

Just this tiny change would make it a lot better ^^'

 

[teamur]

bruh... that is the exact kind of choice that I was talking about XD it is the choice made within the same world, meaning any dog that got horny she would f*ck that builds it into their personality.
That kind of justification is just cope.

Not at all. The choice is between the world with bestiality, where there is the sexual tension between Fido and Starr, and another world where that tension does not exist.

You might argue that the choice is just about the dog - is he horny or not - but that's just, like, your opinion, man.

You can choose your opinion but you can't really disprove the opinion I chose. And in my opinion "the same" people in different worlds can be different due to their different experience.

And I definitely see worlds with different story branches as "parallel" rather than "the same world", because, well, the events there are different.

 

[The Pie Rat]

Decided to give this game a shot..

Nope...

1. It screams bestiality with a doggie getting boner with your sister.
2. Forced lesbian content with the redheaded sister and her friend she's known for like 2 days. You cannot avoid it.
3. The MC is a beta boi to the other sister. She's in charge and he's too much of a pussy to do anything about it.

You're also missing the drugs tag.

 

[Fazed]

1. It screams bestiality with a doggie getting boner with your sister.

1.
..You had two options

Spoiler: hmmm

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Geee, I wonder which one you picked and then proceeded to complain about it.

Anyway, it remains to be seen how well the split will be handled. Could be well done or it could be painfully obvious that the script is just skipping over it.

Ideally something else will happen rather than a...time skip? At least to me the scene flows better without the MC hyper focusing in and having an internal monologue about it so maybe that wont be an issue. Time will tell but I really hope there is no trace of it when off.

2. Fair, I complained about this as well but there is an unimplemented option to avoid the second encounter. Hopefully all of that gets sorted out next update.

3. I would think you would be familiar with the bratty sister trope. Your sig suggests that you have played Radiant at least. One of the girls acts in a similar way in that game. That's just how it tends to go and I don't expect mc to outright bully her into "behaving" anyway. If anything, the MC taking her obstinance in stride and turning it back at her instead of getting angry shows he is mature enough not to go down to her level.
She obviously has some repressed feelings that she needs to work out and while I may not be a behavioral expert I am pretty sure immediately being aggressive would just push a person like that away and or make them afraid of you(given the power dynamic). Using Radiant as an example(because that is the closest relatable thing on hand atm) that's pretty much how it plays out if you choose to go that route in that game....Unless that is what you are looking for, in which case well... I have nothing to say.

Before somebody says "It's a porn game not a psychology project", yea but things still need to make a little sense...

 

[Lebeaubrun]

good game!

 

[nn2017]

Good

 

[MrBenny]

Want to be a good author? Step 1: Know your audience...

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Ya...that scene for me made me uncomfortable, by adding a predatory lesbian at first contact...who showed zero interest in the MC. Then that same girl was able to easily swoop in to steal MC's Li's first intimate kiss / sexual experience. That was a huge let down, as I'm not fan of lesbian GG sharing love interest content.

I had hoped the story would at least establish the Li relationships first with the main character. But because of that scene where she was able to steal the first kiss while planting her seeds of corruption...I would not want anything to do with Daisy at that point...or ever want her near any of MC's harem girls. The sis should have had her special moment with MC, not with a fucking predatory stranger that she just met an hour earlier. What is next a fucking strap-on, before MC takes her? At least there should have been a choice to stop it, or have the sis say NO...I'm saving myself (something like that).

Well, looking back at the odd dog scene with the little sis...it also was concerning, adding that type of content in a harem story is so off-putting.

Maybe I'll check back later to see how this project direction progresses.

 

[InTheWoods]

Well, looking back at the odd dog scene with the little sis...it also was concerning, adding that type of content in a harem story is so off-putting.

Harem? Must be a dog-hair-em.

 

[Mathesar]

Am I the only one that's just happy to see some measure of variety from the cookie cutter template?

 

[Famescua]

Yeah, I tried giving this game a chance. The scene with the sister turned me off to this game. I was on the fence after the kiss but the second scene just ruined it for me. Good luck with your game though, there is an audience for those scenes, just not for me. I might come back to it after the different path is implemented.

 

[Valuvika]

Yeah, I tried giving this game a chance. with the sister turned me off to this game. I was on the fence after the kiss but the second scene just ruined it for me. Good luck with your game though, there is an audience for those scenes, just not for me. I might come back to it after the different path is implemented.

Hold your horses. Weren't there two choices in that scene, but nothing happened about the second one, so it would be a lez off choice apparently. So maybe we can get all the lesbian crap content out of the game, but we'll just have to wait. Many other things should be changed, but this was only the first version.

 

[Famescua]

Hold your horses. Weren't there two choices in that scene, but nothing happened about the second one, so it would be a lez off choice apparently. So maybe we can get all the lesbian crap content out of the game, but we'll just have to wait. Many other things should be changed, but this was only the first version.

yes, the choices were she could get help or she could figure it out herself. Unfortunately the she could do it herself choice isn't imemented yet, so it went by default to the lesbian choice