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I'll let Hutch make an exception,what happened to staying faithful to team snarky secretary... throwing me under the bus....and some others...
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I'll let Hutch make an exception,what happened to staying faithful to team snarky secretary... throwing me under the bus....and some others...
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I agree with your take here. Vivian enjoys male attention very much. Women in their forties sometimes become more insecure about their attractiveness to men, and Vivian finds this male attention flattering. Something I connected as I read your post and looked through the pictures again. Vivian embarrasses both her son and Hutch with her cheating ways. The cheater in her was already there, and as someone else said, I forget who, Christian brought it out of her. I think her fear and anguish are far more about Hutch knowing what she did than they are about betraying Hutch. If she knew her affair was hidden from him she would be much less emotional about it. I think she is afraid that Hutch will eventually start hating her for cheating on him, and that he will eventually call it quits on the marriage. I think there is a real chance her son will start hating her too when he finds out she cheated on his father. This could be part of the darker ending the author was talking about.the following is the conversation in point which hints at a possible clue, View attachment 4619452 View attachment 4619453 View attachment 4619454 View attachment 4619455 View attachment 4619456 View attachment 4619457 View attachment 4619458 View attachment 4619459 View attachment 4619460 View attachment 4619461 View attachment 4619462 View attachment 4619463 just from this conversations she seems naive(the dorm interaction) and someone who likes attention(phone call on day 5). and enjoys such attentions as can be seen with marcel at school too. in the above images i included the side draw scene to show she was checking for her new fav item(or see if hutch took it and went to return it).if you follow the wording in the 3rd conversation the sneakpeek from the dev
indicates it to be the with the twins. i didnt add the following conversation as it shows again she thinks that hutch knows by the way he reacts to her and want to confirm it but doesn't want to be tell the truth of the dinner night , she is still delusional that hutch doesnt know anything about the dinner night after all the sounds she was making and doesnt want to accept it was her fault which was the problem(getting distracted from the main topic). just pointing to clues that the dev made in the current game of a possible bikini scene with the twins in the next update.
yes but the dev said we will know her age in the next update.
think that was me who posted that comment "awakening of a slut". dunno if someone posted prior to that. i also posted about vivian being afraid of hutch twice in the current version supporting my theory of the cigarette man being hutch. i didnt go in-depth at that time but you explanation is similar to my reasoning. the only different is as we dont know much about hutch or vivian's past i didnt want to go making to many theories on that. to name a few according to the story was marriage and losing her son.I forget who, Christian brought it out of her. I think her fear and anguish are far more about Hutch knowing what she did than they are about betraying Hutch. If she knew her affair was hidden from him she would be much less emotional about it. I think she is afraid that Hutch will eventually start hating her for cheating on him, and that he will eventually call it quits on the marriage. I think there is a real chance her son will start hating her too when he finds out she cheated on his father. This could be part of the darker ending the author was talking about.
being a faithful member of team snarky secretary(looking a you joeMy above post just gave me an idea for an ending. Christian is fucking Vivian in his bedroom. Vivian is moaning loudly and begging for more. Suddenly, an unknown young man about 20 years old kicks the door in holding a gun. Young man, "You bastard! You ruined my parents' marriage and turned my mother into your personal whore. My father told us everything in his suicide note. He could not live with what you and my mother did to him. I will bet this slut you are fucking is another wife you have corrupted. You are going to pay for what you did!" Christian jumps off Vivian and heads for the window. Vivian yells, "No please!" and tries to get between the young man and Christian. The young man starts shooting at Christian, but hits both Vivian and Christian. Later we get a funeral scene with Hutch and Sawyer at Vivian's funeral. Addison puts her hand on Hutch's shoulder and gives him a hug. She says she is sorry her uncle got both himself and Vivian killed. Months later we get a hot sex scene with Addison and Hutch. As the scene closes, we see a wedding picture of Hutch and Addison.
It is interesting that she said, "my son" and not our son. I don't think I caught that until you pointed it out. It is not conclusive proof, but it does raise a little doubt. Even if Sawyer isn't biologically Hutch's, which is not clear at this point, Hutch probably loves him just the same. If Sawyer is not Hutch's son biologically, there are a bunch of other questions that would come up, and lots more drama. I am enjoying the drama. I also enjoy watching Vivian get fucked, even though I don't like Vivian.think that was me who posted that comment "awakening of a slut". dunno if someone posted prior to that. i also posted about vivian being afraid of hutch twice in the current version supporting my theory of the cigarette man being hutch. i didnt go in-depth at that time but you explanation is similar to my reasoning. the only different is as we dont know much about hutch or vivian's past i didnt want to go making to many theories on that. to name a few according to the story was marriage and losing her son. View attachment 4619913 View attachment 4619914 View attachment 4619915 View attachment 4619916 View attachment 4619917 View attachment 4619918 View attachment 4619919 .not saying hutch and vivian's son but her son. i already posted about this but no one understood or people just had a case of selective reading syndrome when reading it. as after the sneak peak by the dev with vivian in a bikini she is likely to go to a pool with her son's roommates.
being a faithful member of team snarky secretary(looking a you joe), one of the better endings in the long list of worst ending hutch ends up with addison only in the epilogue not before that. you do paint a vivid picture but adhdclassic posted a nightmare theory. so its trumping all other theories as a dark ending.(for me)
I think so too she will only tease them if any contender for Sawyer ntr exist Marcel is the most probableI want Hutch and Sawyer to just leave her. She is not going to fuck Sawyers friends but she will allow them to grope her Sawyer will see it and lose his shit. They are going to put oil on her and then start groping. Worse case he says something to them or gets aggressive and she dismisses what they were doing.
im just waiting for the 2nd and 3rd update then we will see the true face of vivian and hutch. sawyer being their son was one of the questions raised when talking about vivian's past and her having a tstamp in relation to some of her dialogues. as i said before selective reading. we all hate vivian but love the action... like the quote from face off love to see you go have to see you leave.It is interesting that she said, "my son" and not our son. I don't think I caught that until you pointed it out. It is not conclusive proof, but it does raise a little doubt. Even if Sawyer isn't biologically Hutch's, which is not clear at this point, Hutch probably loves him just the same. If Sawyer is not Hutch's son biologically, there are a bunch of other questions that would come up, and lots more drama. I am enjoying the drama. I also enjoy watching Vivian get fucked, even though I don't like Vivian.
no amount of theories will redeem you of the nightmare you have given this thread.....I want Hutch and Sawyer to just leave her. She is not going to fuck Sawyers friends but she will allow them to grope her Sawyer will see it and lose his shit. They are going to put oil on her and then start groping. Worse case he says something to them or gets aggressive and she dismisses what they were doing.
im just staying true to the facts of the VN.. everyone is looking at what is said and making assumptions .. i am looking the actions of that sexy beautiful slut wife vivian only. as the old saying goes actions speak louder than words and it holds very true to this VN.exploring the open relationship status?
expected that reply(stay true to your theory until proven otherwise).... i just wanted to post about the sneak peek and with whom it is most likely to be (just story info nothing to theorize)..... not talking about your fav theory. think you should have the lyrics for the kid laroi song without you as a signature duke.
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No more theories from me I have to unwatch this game for a few months, my Vacation starts tomorrow so I won't be back to play this till July. so I don't want to see any spoilers when it comes out.im just waiting for the 2nd and 3rd update they you will see the true face of vivian and hutch. sawyer being their son was one of the questions raised when talking about vivian's past and her having a tstamp in relation to some of her dialogues. as i said before selective reading. we all hate vivian but love the action... like the quote from face off love to see you go have to see you leave.
no amount of theories will redeem you of the nightmare you have given this thread...... as i said the side characters will only support christian's corruption of vivian(like your theory posted by you) and in the most extreme case the character who fucks vivian in the purple/maroon dress as the assets used in the background aren't in either their home or at christian's. there is a possibility for your theory(adhdclassic) but i think it will be used to give here a wakeup call.... like how she goes into dmg control mode(thinking about the consequences) or deludes herself into more corruption.
have fun.... and regarding spoilers no promises.No more theories from me I have to unwatch this game for a few months, my Vacation starts tomorrow so I won't be back to play this till July. so I don't want to see any spoilers when it comes out.
or can use this as well " the road to hell is paved with good intentions ". your quote for your theory sounds apt not for the rest of them.as the old saying goes actions speak louder than words and it holds very true to this VN.
The key word there is "possible" - dev didn't at any point say the bikini pic was a sneak peek/preview. Someone asked for a pic showing the bikini that gave her those tanlines and dev showed a pic. Given the number of Vivian and non-Vivian pics dev has put out there under "show your skills" etc., and the format of this pic (portrait rather than the usual full landscape render) it might suggest that it's just a random or test image. Obviously though, it could also be a genuine render for the game that's just been cropped.if you follow the wording in the 3rd conversation the sneakpeek from the dev indicates it to be the with the twins. just pointing to clues that the dev made in the current game of a possible bikini scene with the twins in the next update.
Not necessarily an in-game render, as above.hmmm
no wedding ring
I don't think it's unusual for her to say "my son" at all. It's quite natural, as when Hutch is not there, there's no "our" present (saying "our son" in that conversation, grammatically speaking, might indicate she means Christian's and her son!) and it would definitely be odd to say "Hutch's and my son" or whichever way around she might want to word it. She is talking emotionally, and in fear of losing something (someone) who metaphorically "belongs" to her, hence "my"....losing her son... not saying hutch and vivian's son but her son. i already posted about this but no one understood or people just had a case of selective reading syndrome when reading it. as after the sneak peak by the dev with vivian in a bikini she is likely to go to a pool with her son's roommates.
As above. I don't think it raises the slightest bit of doubt, and it's only people trying to pick the minutest detail apart to make new theories, leading to someone coming up with "Hutch isn't Sawyer's father". If it wasn't for that, no one would give this line of dialogue a second glance.It is interesting that she said, "my son" and not our son. I don't think I caught that until you pointed it out. It is not conclusive proof, but it does raise a little doubt. Even if Sawyer isn't biologically Hutch's, which is not clear at this point, Hutch probably loves him just the same. If Sawyer is not Hutch's son biologically, there are a bunch of other questions that would come up, and lots more drama. I am enjoying the drama. I also enjoy watching Vivian get fucked, even though I don't like Vivian.
well kinda expecting this from you. so no surprises there. well let's just leave it at that.The key word there is "possible" - dev didn't at any point say the bikini pic was a sneak peek/preview. Someone asked for a pic showing the bikini that gave her those tanlines and dev showed a pic. Given the number of Vivian and non-Vivian pics dev has put out there under "show your skills" etc., and the format of this pic (portrait rather than the usual full landscape render) it might suggest that it's just a random or test image. Obviously though, it could also be a genuine render for the game that's just been cropped.
Not necessarily an in-game render, as above.
I don't think it's unusual for her to say "my son" at all. It's quite natural, as when Hutch is not there, there's no "our" present (saying "our son" in that conversation, grammatically speaking, might indicate she means Christian's and her son!) and it would definitely be odd to say "Hutch's and my son" or whichever way around she might want to word it. She is talking emotionally, and in fear of losing something (someone) who metaphorically "belongs" to her, hence "my".
Again, not necessarily with the bikini, but the twins were talking about going to the beach as well, rather than a pool.
As above. I don't think it raises the slightest bit of doubt, and it's only people trying to pick the minutest detail apart to make new theories, leading to someone coming up with "Hutch isn't Sawyer's father". If it wasn't for that, no one would give this line of dialogue a second glance.
What's that supposed to mean? If I'm suggesting an alternative view, am I supposed to keep quiet and not post anything? Are my thoughts not welcome here?well kinda expecting this from you. so no surprises there. well let's just leave it at that.
In the context of her thinking that Hutch might turn Sawyer against her, Vivian saying, "my son" or "our son" would be equally natural to say. I am not saying that Sawyer isn't Hutch's. It could be a slip of Vivian's or it could be nothing. My point was that I did not consider that until I reread the dialogue in Hattyrulz's posted. I am perfectly fine if there is nothing to it. Sometimes authors throw little things like that in the dialogue with a payoff later, and sometimes they are just writing dialogue and choosing one word over another, "my" vs "our." I am OK with either choice by the author.The key word there is "possible" - dev didn't at any point say the bikini pic was a sneak peek/preview. Someone asked for a pic showing the bikini that gave her those tanlines and dev showed a pic. Given the number of Vivian and non-Vivian pics dev has put out there under "show your skills" etc., and the format of this pic (portrait rather than the usual full landscape render) it might suggest that it's just a random or test image. Obviously though, it could also be a genuine render for the game that's just been cropped.
Not necessarily an in-game render, as above.
I don't think it's unusual for her to say "my son" at all. It's quite natural, as when Hutch is not there, there's no "our" present (saying "our son" in that conversation, grammatically speaking, might indicate she means Christian's and her son!) and it would definitely be odd to say "Hutch's and my son" or whichever way around she might want to word it. She is talking emotionally, and in fear of losing something (someone) who metaphorically "belongs" to her, hence "my".
Again, not necessarily with the bikini, but the twins were talking about going to the beach as well, rather than a pool.
As above. I don't think it raises the slightest bit of doubt, and it's only people trying to pick the minutest detail apart to make new theories, leading to someone coming up with "Hutch isn't Sawyer's father". If it wasn't for that, no one would give this line of dialogue a second glance.
Yeah absolutely, it's fine either way. It just means that there's no hidden meaning in picking one over the other. Yes, it's possible, but I would say unlikely.In the context of her thinking that Hutch might turn Sawyer against her, Vivian saying, "my son" or "our son" would be equally natural to say. I am not saying that Sawyer isn't Hutch's. It could be a slip of Vivian's or it could be nothing. My point was that I did not consider that until I reread the dialogue in Hattyrulz's posted. I am perfectly fine if there is nothing to it. Sometimes authors throw little things like that in the dialogue with a payoff later, and sometimes they are just writing dialogue and choosing one word over another, "my" vs "our." I am OK with either choice by the author.
A lot of mothers say "my son/daughter", depending on the context and on the relationship to the father. So I agree, I wouldn't read too much into it.In the context of her thinking that Hutch might turn Sawyer against her, Vivian saying, "my son" or "our son" would be equally natural to say. I am not saying that Sawyer isn't Hutch's. It could be a slip of Vivian's or it could be nothing. My point was that I did not consider that until I reread the dialogue in Hattyrulz's posted. I am perfectly fine if there is nothing to it. Sometimes authors throw little things like that in the dialogue with a payoff later, and sometimes they are just writing dialogue and choosing one word over another, "my" vs "our." I am OK with either choice by the author.
You were right to call me out on being sensitive to assumptions. I was being hypocritical to assume you were Gen Z.A lot of mothers say "my son/daughter", depending on the context and on the relationship to the father. So I agree, I wouldn't read too much into it.
BTW I value the opinion of everyone here, especially alternative views...
No, I have already totally forgotten about it, no problem at all. I would hate to be so easily hurt. Here I just referred to Tony Murrays post (in a positive sense of course).You were right to call me out on being sensitive to assumptions. I was being hypocritical to assume you were Gen Z.
there is nothing to read into... all of us post what we think. no one is saying anyone shouldn't. if you feel that way then that's your issue... i post my view and you refuted end of story... and i quoted you post just didn't want to post a like. dunno y you are so bothered by that.What's that supposed to mean? If I'm suggesting an alternative view, am I supposed to keep quiet and not post anything? Are my thoughts not welcome here?
not letting go about the genz ???You were right to call me out on being sensitive to assumptions. I was being hypocritical to assume you were Gen Z.