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Hattyrulz

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It is interesting that she said, "my son" and not our son. I don't think I caught that until you pointed it out. It is not conclusive proof, but it does raise a little doubt. Even if Sawyer isn't biologically Hutch's, which is not clear at this point, Hutch probably loves him just the same. If Sawyer is not Hutch's son biologically, there are a bunch of other questions that would come up, and lots more drama. I am enjoying the drama. I also enjoy watching Vivian get fucked, even though I don't like Vivian.
im just waiting for the 2nd and 3rd update then we will see the true face of vivian and hutch. sawyer being their son was one of the questions raised when talking about vivian's past and her having a tstamp in relation to some of her dialogues. as i said before selective reading. we all hate vivian but love the action... like the quote from face off love to see you go have to see you leave.
I want Hutch and Sawyer to just leave her. She is not going to fuck Sawyers friends but she will allow them to grope her Sawyer will see it and lose his shit. They are going to put oil on her and then start groping. Worse case he says something to them or gets aggressive and she dismisses what they were doing.
no amount of theories will redeem you of the nightmare you have given this thread..... :ROFLMAO: . as i said the side characters will only support christian's corruption of vivian(like your theory posted by you) and in the most extreme case the character who fucks vivian in the purple/maroon dress as the assets used in the background aren't in either their home or at christian's. there is a possibility for your theory(adhdclassic) but i think it will be used to give here a wakeup call.... like how she goes into dmg control mode(thinking about the consequences) or deludes herself into more corruption.
 
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TheDuke9999

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exploring the open relationship status?

expected that reply(stay true to your theory until proven otherwise (y) ).... i just wanted to post about the sneak peek and with whom it is most likely to be (just story info nothing to theorize)..... not talking about your fav theory. think you should have the lyrics for the kid laroi song without you as a signature duke.:D;)
im just staying true to the facts of the VN.. everyone is looking at what is said and making assumptions .. i am looking the actions of that sexy beautiful slut wife vivian only. as the old saying goes actions speak louder than words and it holds very true to this VN.
 
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im just waiting for the 2nd and 3rd update they you will see the true face of vivian and hutch. sawyer being their son was one of the questions raised when talking about vivian's past and her having a tstamp in relation to some of her dialogues. as i said before selective reading. we all hate vivian but love the action... like the quote from face off love to see you go have to see you leave.

no amount of theories will redeem you of the nightmare you have given this thread..... :ROFLMAO: . as i said the side characters will only support christian's corruption of vivian(like your theory posted by you) and in the most extreme case the character who fucks vivian in the purple/maroon dress as the assets used in the background aren't in either their home or at christian's. there is a possibility for your theory(adhdclassic) but i think it will be used to give here a wakeup call.... like how she goes into dmg control mode(thinking about the consequences) or deludes herself into more corruption.
No more theories from me I have to unwatch this game for a few months, my Vacation starts tomorrow so I won't be back to play this till July. so I don't want to see any spoilers when it comes out.
 
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Hattyrulz

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No more theories from me I have to unwatch this game for a few months, my Vacation starts tomorrow so I won't be back to play this till July. so I don't want to see any spoilers when it comes out.
have fun.... and regarding spoilers no promises.:D
as the old saying goes actions speak louder than words and it holds very true to this VN.
or can use this as well " the road to hell is paved with good intentions ". your quote for your theory sounds apt not for the rest of them.
 
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TonyMurray

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if you follow the wording in the 3rd conversation the sneakpeek from the dev indicates it to be the with the twins. just pointing to clues that the dev made in the current game of a possible bikini scene with the twins in the next update.
The key word there is "possible" - dev didn't at any point say the bikini pic was a sneak peek/preview. Someone asked for a pic showing the bikini that gave her those tanlines and dev showed a pic. Given the number of Vivian and non-Vivian pics dev has put out there under "show your skills" etc., and the format of this pic (portrait rather than the usual full landscape render) it might suggest that it's just a random or test image. Obviously though, it could also be a genuine render for the game that's just been cropped.
hmmm
no wedding ring
Not necessarily an in-game render, as above.
...losing her son... not saying hutch and vivian's son but her son. i already posted about this but no one understood or people just had a case of selective reading syndrome when reading it ;). as after the sneak peak by the dev with vivian in a bikini she is likely to go to a pool with her son's roommates.
I don't think it's unusual for her to say "my son" at all. It's quite natural, as when Hutch is not there, there's no "our" present (saying "our son" in that conversation, grammatically speaking, might indicate she means Christian's and her son!) and it would definitely be odd to say "Hutch's and my son" or whichever way around she might want to word it. She is talking emotionally, and in fear of losing something (someone) who metaphorically "belongs" to her, hence "my".

Again, not necessarily with the bikini, but the twins were talking about going to the beach as well, rather than a pool.
It is interesting that she said, "my son" and not our son. I don't think I caught that until you pointed it out. It is not conclusive proof, but it does raise a little doubt. Even if Sawyer isn't biologically Hutch's, which is not clear at this point, Hutch probably loves him just the same. If Sawyer is not Hutch's son biologically, there are a bunch of other questions that would come up, and lots more drama. I am enjoying the drama. I also enjoy watching Vivian get fucked, even though I don't like Vivian.
As above. I don't think it raises the slightest bit of doubt, and it's only people trying to pick the minutest detail apart to make new theories, leading to someone coming up with "Hutch isn't Sawyer's father". If it wasn't for that, no one would give this line of dialogue a second glance.
 

Hattyrulz

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The key word there is "possible" - dev didn't at any point say the bikini pic was a sneak peek/preview. Someone asked for a pic showing the bikini that gave her those tanlines and dev showed a pic. Given the number of Vivian and non-Vivian pics dev has put out there under "show your skills" etc., and the format of this pic (portrait rather than the usual full landscape render) it might suggest that it's just a random or test image. Obviously though, it could also be a genuine render for the game that's just been cropped.

Not necessarily an in-game render, as above.

I don't think it's unusual for her to say "my son" at all. It's quite natural, as when Hutch is not there, there's no "our" present (saying "our son" in that conversation, grammatically speaking, might indicate she means Christian's and her son!) and it would definitely be odd to say "Hutch's and my son" or whichever way around she might want to word it. She is talking emotionally, and in fear of losing something (someone) who metaphorically "belongs" to her, hence "my".

Again, not necessarily with the bikini, but the twins were talking about going to the beach as well, rather than a pool.

As above. I don't think it raises the slightest bit of doubt, and it's only people trying to pick the minutest detail apart to make new theories, leading to someone coming up with "Hutch isn't Sawyer's father". If it wasn't for that, no one would give this line of dialogue a second glance.
well kinda expecting this from you. so no surprises there. well let's just leave it at that.
 

TonyMurray

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well kinda expecting this from you. so no surprises there. well let's just leave it at that.
What's that supposed to mean? If I'm suggesting an alternative view, am I supposed to keep quiet and not post anything? Are my thoughts not welcome here?
 

DarkArchon

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The key word there is "possible" - dev didn't at any point say the bikini pic was a sneak peek/preview. Someone asked for a pic showing the bikini that gave her those tanlines and dev showed a pic. Given the number of Vivian and non-Vivian pics dev has put out there under "show your skills" etc., and the format of this pic (portrait rather than the usual full landscape render) it might suggest that it's just a random or test image. Obviously though, it could also be a genuine render for the game that's just been cropped.

Not necessarily an in-game render, as above.

I don't think it's unusual for her to say "my son" at all. It's quite natural, as when Hutch is not there, there's no "our" present (saying "our son" in that conversation, grammatically speaking, might indicate she means Christian's and her son!) and it would definitely be odd to say "Hutch's and my son" or whichever way around she might want to word it. She is talking emotionally, and in fear of losing something (someone) who metaphorically "belongs" to her, hence "my".

Again, not necessarily with the bikini, but the twins were talking about going to the beach as well, rather than a pool.

As above. I don't think it raises the slightest bit of doubt, and it's only people trying to pick the minutest detail apart to make new theories, leading to someone coming up with "Hutch isn't Sawyer's father". If it wasn't for that, no one would give this line of dialogue a second glance.
In the context of her thinking that Hutch might turn Sawyer against her, Vivian saying, "my son" or "our son" would be equally natural to say. I am not saying that Sawyer isn't Hutch's. It could be a slip of Vivian's or it could be nothing. My point was that I did not consider that until I reread the dialogue in Hattyrulz's posted. I am perfectly fine if there is nothing to it. Sometimes authors throw little things like that in the dialogue with a payoff later, and sometimes they are just writing dialogue and choosing one word over another, "my" vs "our." I am OK with either choice by the author.
 

TonyMurray

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In the context of her thinking that Hutch might turn Sawyer against her, Vivian saying, "my son" or "our son" would be equally natural to say. I am not saying that Sawyer isn't Hutch's. It could be a slip of Vivian's or it could be nothing. My point was that I did not consider that until I reread the dialogue in Hattyrulz's posted. I am perfectly fine if there is nothing to it. Sometimes authors throw little things like that in the dialogue with a payoff later, and sometimes they are just writing dialogue and choosing one word over another, "my" vs "our." I am OK with either choice by the author.
Yeah absolutely, it's fine either way. It just means that there's no hidden meaning in picking one over the other. Yes, it's possible, but I would say unlikely.
 
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In the context of her thinking that Hutch might turn Sawyer against her, Vivian saying, "my son" or "our son" would be equally natural to say. I am not saying that Sawyer isn't Hutch's. It could be a slip of Vivian's or it could be nothing. My point was that I did not consider that until I reread the dialogue in Hattyrulz's posted. I am perfectly fine if there is nothing to it. Sometimes authors throw little things like that in the dialogue with a payoff later, and sometimes they are just writing dialogue and choosing one word over another, "my" vs "our." I am OK with either choice by the author.
A lot of mothers say "my son/daughter", depending on the context and on the relationship to the father. So I agree, I wouldn't read too much into it.

BTW I value the opinion of everyone here, especially alternative views...
 
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A lot of mothers say "my son/daughter", depending on the context and on the relationship to the father. So I agree, I wouldn't read too much into it.

BTW I value the opinion of everyone here, especially alternative views...
You were right to call me out on being sensitive to assumptions. I was being hypocritical to assume you were Gen Z.
 

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You were right to call me out on being sensitive to assumptions. I was being hypocritical to assume you were Gen Z.
No, I have already totally forgotten about it, no problem at all. I would hate to be so easily hurt. Here I just referred to Tony Murrays post (in a positive sense of course).
 
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Hattyrulz

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What's that supposed to mean? If I'm suggesting an alternative view, am I supposed to keep quiet and not post anything? Are my thoughts not welcome here?
there is nothing to read into... all of us post what we think. no one is saying anyone shouldn't. if you feel that way then that's your issue... i post my view and you refuted end of story... and i quoted you post just didn't want to post a like. dunno y you are so bothered by that.
You were right to call me out on being sensitive to assumptions. I was being hypocritical to assume you were Gen Z.
not letting go about the genz ??? :D. but we are all in a sense(assuming a lot in relation to the characters) .... because of the story.
 

TheDuke9999

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In the context of her thinking that Hutch might turn Sawyer against her, Vivian saying, "my son" or "our son" would be equally natural to say. I am not saying that Sawyer isn't Hutch's. It could be a slip of Vivian's or it could be nothing. My point was that I did not consider that until I reread the dialogue in Hattyrulz's posted. I am perfectly fine if there is nothing to it. Sometimes authors throw little things like that in the dialogue with a payoff later, and sometimes they are just writing dialogue and choosing one word over another, "my" vs "our." I am OK with either choice by the author.
The discussion we should be having on here is not is Vivian a hoe but how much of a hoe she will become.. i think Wifey is going to pound her son and hutchy into the ground and piss on the heads.. just my thoughts though.
 

TonyMurray

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Dev does not have incest in the Genre ...yet ?? Also no Anal ??? That one I hope for !
Tags reflect what's in the game at present. I wouldn't expect any incest, but there are family members who could do something (Sawyer for Vivian or Hutch, Addison for Christian, the twins), so I guess there's always a possibility unless the dev says otherwise. Anal has been brought up a couple of times in dialogue, and it suggests that it is likely to happen, but until it does (or the dev confirms it as a future tag) we won't know for sure.
 
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TonyMurray

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Future tag would be a giveaway . This Dev likes to keep us guessing.
There are some future tags that someone found in one of the game files, but the way dev goes, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are red herrings sent to throw people off! I don't know if any other game has tags listed in the files - my guess it that it's an unusual move, but I could be wrong.
 
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