401Grem

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Imagine it this way, you go out for a meal with all your friends and they are sat around eating steak, burgers, bacon, chicken, fish and whatever other meat you can throw at a party without it getting weird.

And you get to sit there, with the love of your life .... and your green salad.

Just imagine how much healthier you'd be.
Rabbits die from that
 

Sural Argonus

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This is a ridiculous argument as sodomy is illegal in most states as well which would include oral and anal sex with anyone so about 98% of the games show sodomy.
Which part is "ridiculous"?

Lots of things are illegal. Doesn't mean doing them will automatically get you thrown in jail...

Incest, Beastiality, Sodomy, Drugs...

Hell...according to some laws that have been on the books for over a hundred years...Women are forbidden to drive within the city limits of some cities.

Also teenage boys are required by law to learn archery from the clergy in England.

Also it's legal to kill Welshmen with a bow and arrow, except on Sundays.
 

Sural Argonus

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Just these two together, makes you wonder how those laws came about lol.
Well...You know how The Church likes little boys...It gave them an excuse. ahaha

As for the Welshies...That law is quite old. Back from when Welshies were the enemy.

For the record...there are actually 2 Welshie related laws in the UK.

"You can only shoot a Welsh person with a bow and arrow inside the city walls and after midnight. "

and...

"You may not shoot a Welsh person on Sunday with a longbow in the Cathedral Close. "

Attained from in case anyone was curious.
 

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Well, seeing the end of this update, I guess my theory about why Nikki and Tails will never end up together despite her definitely being in love with him has become a definitive possibility.
 
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Look-see

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sooooo Nikki and taylor are not going to end up together regardless of choices made in game? that really blows i would have liked to see an ending where that happens.... actually its the main ending i wanted to see happen

edit: by the way has the dev said why he doesnt want an ending with nikki? i tried looking at threads but i could only find that nikki wasnt an option just not why.
 

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I'm not sure what WTHI is, but there was another girl in a game I can't quite remember where I think the MC was named Mark, the mom was away quite a bit, and the sister didn't mind you stealing her laptop, she could teach you cooking, and you could go to school. There was a pizza place and a convenience store owned by twins. Game also had a fast mode and a checklist
That is Life from Fasder I think. @Avaron1974 if you have not played the game yet , there are also two lesbian/bisexual sisters to entertain you in the game.
 
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by the way has the dev said why he doesnt want an ending with nikki? i tried looking at threads but i could only find that nikki wasnt an option just not why.
If I remember correctly, it was simply that the story the dev wanted to tell was about an inexperienced guy getting "help" with sexual experience from his much more experienced sister. She helps get him out of his shell, helps him break down his internal sexual barriers, pulls some strings with the girls he's interested in, and generally is just there as a sexual compass directing him to the putang.

A lot of people, including me, have wondered "Why not?" when it comes to the question of Nikki being a primary option for the MC. But even if you're disappointed that won't be an option, I respect @Sumodeine for sticking to his guns and making the game he wants to make. The fact that the last few updates... complicates things... between the MC and his sister makes it even more compelling in my opinion.
 

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If I remember correctly, it was simply that the story the dev wanted to tell was about an inexperienced guy getting "help" with sexual experience from his much more experienced sister. She helps get him out of his shell, helps him break down his internal sexual barriers, pulls some strings with the girls he's interested in, and generally is just there as a sexual compass directing him to the putang.

A lot of people, including me, have wondered "Why not?" when it comes to the question of Nikki being a primary option for the MC. But even if you're disappointed that won't be an option, I respect @Sumodeine for sticking to his guns and making the game he wants to make. The fact that the last few updates... complicates things... between the MC and his sister makes it even more compelling in my opinion.
I am not sure about this but did Sum not say once he wanted to do a spin-off with Nikki? I might remember it wrong though. Many threads and games. :p

I am with the many that it would seem weird if Nikki would not be around at the end, she definitely has feelings for Tales that go way beyond that of a wingman/sister. Think someone made the comparison with Haley from haley's story and I can understand that comparison quite well. It is the devs story though and I am happy he lets us get along for the ride since it is a very enjoyable game, even if I am pretty curious how he will resolve the relationship between Tales and Nikki. I doubt they would be able to go back to just be twins and best friends/siblings completely.
 

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I was hoping Tales "relationship" with Nikki would be like the MC's and his sister from Parental Love where they just have casual sex once in a while. That would be the next best thing to having him end up with her, as well as Tales having a girlfriend who wanted to join in.
 

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If I remember correctly, it was simply that the story the dev wanted to tell was about an inexperienced guy getting "help" with sexual experience from his much more experienced sister. She helps get him out of his shell, helps him break down his internal sexual barriers, pulls some strings with the girls he's interested in, and generally is just there as a sexual compass directing him to the putang.

A lot of people, including me, have wondered "Why not?" when it comes to the question of Nikki being a primary option for the MC. But even if you're disappointed that won't be an option, I respect @Sumodeine for sticking to his guns and making the game he wants to make. The fact that the last few updates... complicates things... between the MC and his sister makes it even more compelling in my opinion.
ah i see thanks for the explanation...yeah i can respect his choices but cant say i've been focusing on molly if thats the end girl here. when the option came up my first playthrough was to break up/not commit. personally skylar more my speed. which is weird cuz i normally really like shy cute girls. if molly is the MAIN girl here and the relationship with her is forced to happen regardless, then maybe thats why i kinda lost interest in her. buuut if he decided to do a "Dreaomin of Dana" ending with molly being ok with a triangle relationship with Nikki that would be awesome. however that seems unlikely since it seems she wants Tales for herself.
 
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The fact that the last few updates... complicates things... between the MC and his sister makes it even more compelling in my opinion.
Not really, he's also said from day 1 that would happen. They were always going to fuck.

She even explains it when she says it has to stop. She's young and she's his sister. If they carry on she'll be a social pariah and never have a normal life, she may love Tales but giving up on any kind of future is a bit much for an 18 year old.

edit: by the way has the dev said why he doesnt want an ending with nikki? i tried looking at threads but i could only find that nikki wasnt an option just not why.
It just wasn't the story he wanted to tell.

Brother and sister relationships have been done to death and he wanted to do something different. Nikki ending up with Taylor isn't what he wants to happen and he's stuck by that. He had his story laid out and never changed it which is how it should be.

if molly is the MAIN girl here and the relationship with her is forced to happen regardless,
I don't think it is. Molly is just the first to ask for a relationship. I think saying no to her will open up Cory, Solaine and Skylar. The only one I don't think is going to be an option is Jessica, she's coming across more of a casual sex kind of thing than wanting anything deeper.

Could be a shock and have an Ash ending. I know a few people love the crazy vegan wench, she's probably one of my faves in the game behind Cory.
 
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Have to say, the last two updates were doing quite a push for Molly, regardless of previous choices.

I have a playthrough were I concentrated on Cory and despite that I got the same reaction by NIkki when I wouldn't commit to Molly, all the while the new update also emphasized Cory's romantical relationship with her roommate, which seemed forced as well, because Cory was so into the MC up to that point.

Then I have one were I did everything with Jessica and Skylar and both of them aren't mentioned, same as the hot milf.

I hope we can choose anyone but Molly in the end. I like her a lot, but in the beginning when the routes were really diverse, I decided on several playthroughs and I do admit it is kind of a bummer how similar they have become by now.
 

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So the, "Times they are a changing." 16 states to go... but still it's a pity argument, under the UCMJ adultery is illegal.

As of March 2019, 16 states either have not yet formally repealed their laws against sexual activity among consenting adults, or have not revised them to accurately reflect their true scope in the aftermath of Lawrence v. Texas. Often, the sodomy law was drafted to also encompass other forms of sexual conduct such as bestiality, and no attempt has subsequently succeeded in separating them. Thirteen states' statutes purport to ban all forms of sodomy, some including oral intercourse, regardless of the participants' genders: , , , , , , , , , , , and . Three states specifically target their statutes at same-sex relations only: , , and .

What a pointless argument to have. Adultery happens, those laws are obviously absurd leftovers.
Are people even actually tried for it, because I honestly don't see that happen.
The whole bs with laws about sodomy has never stopped anything happening, why have them in the first place and even more absurd, why use these ridiculous laws to base an argument on in a forum for sharing porn games with every kink and fetish imaginable?
 

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Which part is "ridiculous"?

Lots of things are illegal. Doesn't mean doing them will automatically get you thrown in jail...

Incest, Beastiality, Sodomy, Drugs...

Hell...according to some laws that have been on the books for over a hundred years...Women are forbidden to drive within the city limits of some cities.

Also teenage boys are required by law to learn archery from the clergy in England.

Also it's legal to kill Welshmen with a bow and arrow, except on Sundays.
Their argument using antiquated laws is what is ridiculous.
Especially given we're on a porn site in a thread where incest is tagged and incest happens to be the most popular genre of the era and they were using the antiquated laws to justify attacks on the genre.
 
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Avaron1974

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I have a playthrough were I concentrated on Cory and despite that I got the same reaction by NIkki when I wouldn't commit to Molly, all the while the new update also emphasized Cory's romantical relationship with her roommate, which seemed forced as well, because Cory was so into the MC up to that point.
The roommate kinda hinted at caring about her as more than a friend during the gym event. I did see that coming but don't think it changes anything between Cory and Tales, I still think she's going to be an option if you turn Molly down.

As for Nikki getting mad about it, she doesn't know Cory, Jessica fucked both of them and Nikki doesn't think she's right for Tales and Solaine is far too old for her to think she's right for him.

She wants him to have the perfect relationship which in her eyes is Molly, the sweet virgin who only has eyes for him. Everyone else has a past which would put doubts in her mind.

Skylar she's never liked.

Some of those have been hinted at in conversations. I think Molly was always going to be Nikki's end goal for Tales. She tried to open them both up to get them ready for each other.
 
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