I said EA is inflexible, do you even read? They listened to fans with fallen order tho and look what happened. I took them as an example because they didn't listen with battlefront and did with fallen order listening to fans sometimes is not a bad thing. I'm not saying do everything fans want but sometimes they do have some ideas that are worth considering and by implementing it the dev stands to gain more money by not implementing it they stand to lose.
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Nah man, make the game you wanna make or risk getting burned out on the bullshit. The fact that people kick up a fuss, means that your game had them invested to some level, and that for a porn game. And not every critique was bad, some had merit. Things to maybe take in consideration, or don't it's your prerogative and I don't think you should compromise on vision.
hah, vision. The shit we talk about when discussing porn games.
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Learn the subject first my friend. Fallen order was developed by Respawn Entertainment, EA just published it. End Respawn Entertainment was not a part of EA at the start of Fallen order development. So contractually EA could not interfere in Fallen order development. EA is not flexible, EA just want's your money
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Anyone calling Molly vanilla hadn't seen the perfect ending..... which part of sucking Tales under his "childhood friend's " guidance is vanilla ?
You really think Fallen Order was good because of EA ?
Also you really think that was a case of them being Flexible....
How far in the sand is your head burried.
Fallen Order is literally the bare minimum they could do to appease fans of an already established brand who they have taken several shits on. That wasn't being flexible, that was an attempt to salvage the brand before big poppy Disney stripped them of the rights.
Again your analogy falls flat once you know the context.
Yes that being the perfect ending however where was the steps for getting Molly to behave like that under MC's supervision or perhaps he takes another trip home while they have a girl's night like Nikki did before with the R.A
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well.. of course many of us would find it lackluster since soo many were invested into nikki more than into the other girls..
But the dev had warned us about that a LONG time ago.. so i was kinda prepared lol.
For ppl that focused on Molly for example, it will be very satisfactory.
Still.. game is great and the story is good..
iam glad the dev had finished it..
if the game is not sold outside of patreon, i will even pledge for a couple months just to show some support.
It was a great job.
But the dev had warned us about that a LONG time ago.. so i was kinda prepared lol.
For ppl that focused on Molly for example, it will be very satisfactory.
Still.. game is great and the story is good..
iam glad the dev had finished it..
if the game is not sold outside of patreon, i will even pledge for a couple months just to show some support.
It was a great job.
Why do I even bother if I have to write a whole essay just so people can get my point.
EA could have turned fallen order into a micro transactions shit storm if they wanted to but they held back. I didn't say they made it good or anything. It was an example they did something that they do not want to do and they got rewarded for it. But this is not about EA this is about patreon devs and as I said they stand to gain more money if they implement an idea or two from fans, more fans will be hopeful that their idea might get chosen and they will support the dev but if they don't then some supporters will stop giving them money. Is that so hard to get through your thick skulls? I never said they had to, they can do whatever the fuck they want it is their game. I'm just arguing that doing something the fans want might not be such a bad idea. Sheesh.
EA could have turned fallen order into a micro transactions shit storm if they wanted to but they held back. I didn't say they made it good or anything. It was an example they did something that they do not want to do and they got rewarded for it. But this is not about EA this is about patreon devs and as I said they stand to gain more money if they implement an idea or two from fans, more fans will be hopeful that their idea might get chosen and they will support the dev but if they don't then some supporters will stop giving them money. Is that so hard to get through your thick skulls? I never said they had to, they can do whatever the fuck they want it is their game. I'm just arguing that doing something the fans want might not be such a bad idea. Sheesh.
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weak game with a very weak end 
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Hated the endings.
Loved the game and the fact the dev stuck to his vision of the game.
Unfortunately, Molly was way too bland as a character for me, so having the ending basically focused on her didn't work quite well for me. But yeah, that's my personal, totally subjective point of view. Others may think differently.
About the hate? That's to be expected. When you call a game "My Sister, My Roommate" and it does not include said sister as one of the possible endings, people will get frustrated. The problem here is that a "presumption" is artificially created. But, truth be told, the dev was, always, crystal clear about what part Nikki would play, on forums and such. Still, quite a few people probably missed that.
The fact that Taylor and Nikki did develop some sort of relationship throughout the whole game didn't help. It only added more fuel to the furnace.
That's why the title of a game is such an important deal. And why devs should really be extra careful when choosing one for their game.
And also why a game should be crystal clear about what it IS and ISN'T about. Obviously, this game did not make it clear enough, apparently.
But, all in all, great game. And a finished one! Those are way too few and far between, for us to not celebrate this. Kudos to the dev.
And yes, I'm curious about his next game as well. Perhaps this time I'll become a patreon of his. ^^
Loved the game and the fact the dev stuck to his vision of the game.
Unfortunately, Molly was way too bland as a character for me, so having the ending basically focused on her didn't work quite well for me. But yeah, that's my personal, totally subjective point of view. Others may think differently.
About the hate? That's to be expected. When you call a game "My Sister, My Roommate" and it does not include said sister as one of the possible endings, people will get frustrated. The problem here is that a "presumption" is artificially created. But, truth be told, the dev was, always, crystal clear about what part Nikki would play, on forums and such. Still, quite a few people probably missed that.
The fact that Taylor and Nikki did develop some sort of relationship throughout the whole game didn't help. It only added more fuel to the furnace.
That's why the title of a game is such an important deal. And why devs should really be extra careful when choosing one for their game.
And also why a game should be crystal clear about what it IS and ISN'T about. Obviously, this game did not make it clear enough, apparently.
But, all in all, great game. And a finished one! Those are way too few and far between, for us to not celebrate this. Kudos to the dev.
And yes, I'm curious about his next game as well. Perhaps this time I'll become a patreon of his. ^^
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Haters gonna hate, complainers gonna complain, these days it's like that's all we ever see. So I'm gonna buck that trend and say a very heart-felt "Thank You". Thank You for writing and developing this game, Thank You for sticking to your story despite all the "requests" to change direction, Thank You for the humor (the beach/bar scene had me in fits of laughter) and Thank You for taking the time to try and explain just why the game ended in the way it has (still downloading so I've not yet played through the new update).
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As i said above. EA could not turn Fallen order into macro transaction shit, because EA didn't take any part through development cycle.
As I said above this is not about EA I just used it as an example. And I'm not here to debate EA.
Forgot Jessica. Surprised D got with one of the other ladies, much less marrying them. Didn't see that coming.
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Of all the game companies you choose to use EA as an example?
The company that won "Worst company in America" not once but twice (actually two years in a row)! Seriously, such a bad choice to use as an example! 
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Take this with a pinch of salt but I would say the "problem" is that the initial setup and name of the game really suggests there's going to be some type of major open-ended choice rather than have things narrow down to Molly = good ending, everyone else = not so good.
The thing is that Discord, Patreon, even this thread is like an extended universe/tie-in material for a piece of media. You may have a fantastic reason for a character to do an action that comes out of the blue but if that reason is only given in author notes/threads/outside material and the main project makes it out to be a nonsensical act then the author has failed in their creative process.
I'm talking from the position of a writer so it's not me ragging on you. But to paraphrase the Rock - "It doesn't matter if you told your Patreons this was the path the story was on" if the story itself didn't suggest this until the ending. It's almost similar to "The Bell" game that has the MC Pavlov control his wife only to find out she's play-acting and set the entire situation up. If you don't lay the groundwork then it comes out of nowhere and you get upset fans.
Honestly, I think the game's main failure in this part is there wasn't enough hesitation when dealing with Nikki. You wrote those scenes almost too well with a real groundwork for the two characters having a type of relationship at the end (incest patch ignored). I'm not someone who reads through every announcement a game dev releases so the only way you're going to make sure I know she's not a viable LI is by telling me through the story.
Anyone who is a story creator can't use the crutch of pointing to an external statement to provide proof their story makes sense. It's a failure of the storytelling.
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Having read the comments here, and since my saves for this release are not working, I do not think I will waste my time starting over again.
Based on the other players comments, the end is complete bullshit, and not worth worrying about playing it.
Based on the other players comments, the end is complete bullshit, and not worth worrying about playing it.