VN Ren'Py Completed My Sister, My Roommate [v1.69] [Sumodeine]

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Anyone calling Molly vanilla hadn't seen the perfect ending..... which part of sucking Tales under his "childhood friend's " guidance is vanilla ?

 

[ZTex]

I said EA is inflexible, do you even read? They listened to fans with fallen order tho and look what happened. I took them as an example because they didn't listen with battlefront and did with fallen order listening to fans sometimes is not a bad thing. I'm not saying do everything fans want but sometimes they do have some ideas that are worth considering and by implementing it the dev stands to gain more money by not implementing it they stand to lose.

You really think Fallen Order was good because of EA ?
Also you really think that was a case of them being Flexible....
How far in the sand is your head burried.

Fallen Order is literally the bare minimum they could do to appease fans of an already established brand who they have taken several shits on. That wasn't being flexible, that was an attempt to salvage the brand before big poppy Disney stripped them of the rights.

Again your analogy falls flat once you know the context.

 

[HBKTheIcon69]

Anyone calling Molly vanilla hadn't seen the perfect ending..... which part of sucking Tales under his "childhood friend's " guidance is vanilla ?

Yes that being the perfect ending however where was the steps for getting Molly to behave like that under MC's supervision or perhaps he takes another trip home while they have a girl's night like Nikki did before with the R.A

 

[CassidyPRO]

well.. of course many of us would find it lackluster since soo many were invested into nikki more than into the other girls..

But the dev had warned us about that a LONG time ago.. so i was kinda prepared lol.


For ppl that focused on Molly for example, it will be very satisfactory.


Still.. game is great and the story is good..

iam glad the dev had finished it..

if the game is not sold outside of patreon, i will even pledge for a couple months just to show some support.

It was a great job.

 

[TheVengefulOne]

Why do I even bother if I have to write a whole essay just so people can get my point.
EA could have turned fallen order into a micro transactions shit storm if they wanted to but they held back. I didn't say they made it good or anything. It was an example they did something that they do not want to do and they got rewarded for it. But this is not about EA this is about patreon devs and as I said they stand to gain more money if they implement an idea or two from fans, more fans will be hopeful that their idea might get chosen and they will support the dev but if they don't then some supporters will stop giving them money. Is that so hard to get through your thick skulls? I never said they had to, they can do whatever the fuck they want it is their game. I'm just arguing that doing something the fans want might not be such a bad idea. Sheesh.

 

[CarlaDaniela]

weak game with a very weak end

 

[D3ssel]

Hated the endings.

Loved the game and the fact the dev stuck to his vision of the game.

Unfortunately, Molly was way too bland as a character for me, so having the ending basically focused on her didn't work quite well for me. But yeah, that's my personal, totally subjective point of view. Others may think differently.

About the hate? That's to be expected. When you call a game "My Sister, My Roommate" and it does not include said sister as one of the possible endings, people will get frustrated. The problem here is that a "presumption" is artificially created. But, truth be told, the dev was, always, crystal clear about what part Nikki would play, on forums and such. Still, quite a few people probably missed that.

The fact that Taylor and Nikki did develop some sort of relationship throughout the whole game didn't help. It only added more fuel to the furnace.

That's why the title of a game is such an important deal. And why devs should really be extra careful when choosing one for their game.

And also why a game should be crystal clear about what it IS and ISN'T about. Obviously, this game did not make it clear enough, apparently.

But, all in all, great game. And a finished one! Those are way too few and far between, for us to not celebrate this. Kudos to the dev.

And yes, I'm curious about his next game as well. Perhaps this time I'll become a patreon of his. ^^

 

[GrizzlyUK]

Well, I expected a lot of hate from this “community” for the game endings, so I’m happy that you guys didn’t disappoint me there, even though I’ve clearly disappointed so many of you. The amount of hate you’ve given me and this game has exceeded even my expectations! I go back and forth on whether or not to respond to criticism here. Sometimes it feels like pissing in the wind, and other times it can be productive.

I told everyone probably hundreds of times that there wasn’t going to be a Nikki and Taylor romantic ending, yet it doesn’t seem like a lot of people wanted to listen. And now you guys are so upset that what I said was going to happen, happened. I even told the people looking for that to add the game to their ignore list and don’t play the last chapter because it wasn’t going to happen. Now these people are here shitting on my game. Again. And leaving bad reviews. Again. There are probably hundreds of games out there where the main character ends up with the “childhood friend” or “roommate” and I wanted to make something different, where the childhood friend isn’t the end goal, but simply helps the main character along his journey. Sure, I could have caved to the pressure of these voices and added that in, but then I’d be lying to those that supported me BECAUSE of this.

This game has always been about Taylor, Molly, and Nikki’s relationships. I don’t know what else I could have done to telegraph that more, other than coming out and saying it. But even if I did, I question what percentage of people would actually listen to that.

Spoilers ahead on why the game ends the why it does with each character…


Cory was never going to be a good happy ending for Taylor. They are too different and Taylor lies to her constantly, saying what he thinks she wants to hear. That is not the basis of a good relationship.

Chelsea was more attracted to Cory than she was Taylor. She saw Taylor as a way to get closer to Cory. She knows the Cory likes Taylor and thinks that maybe bringing the three of them together will make her and Cory closer. If Taylor has a threesome with C&C, that leads to C&C opening up their relationship, getting a lot close, and ultimately winning a Gold Medal in the Olympics because they are now more in sync than they’ve ever been.

Skylar may have been a decent option, but her and Taylor barely spent any time together, actually getting to know each other. It was always they run into each other and hook up. Not a bad thing, but certainly not enough base a “they lived happily ever after” scenario on.

Sarah is in a similar boat that Skylar is. She’s gorgeous and there could have maybe potential there, but they’ve had even less interaction than Taylor and Skylar. Giving them an ending based on their interactions would make less sense than Molly pulling an easel out of her purse.

Mrs. Sollain was never going to happen long term. Taylor and her are at two very different points in their lives. Besides, Taylor doesn’t even know her first name!

Ashley is in jail and conjugal visits are hard. Besides, Taylor could never be a vegan and that’s what Ashley was looking for.


So why are these characters included if a happy ending isn’t possible with each of them? First and foremost, BECAUSE THIS IS A PORN GAME! Secondly, each of these characters help Taylor get out of his shell and gain confidence. Something that is ultimately necessary to have a good relationship with anyone in the end. The only one he ever had a real, complete connection with was Molly.

It’s sad that it seems so many people enjoyed the journey of this game, but hated the destination, whereas I feel like I wrote the most logical conclusion and the one that I’ve been moving toward the whole time. Clearly there is a disconnect happening somewhere. At any rate, I’m happy there’s a spirited debate and happy people cared enough about the story and characters to take the time to tell me how stupid/lazy I am. Maybe next time, I’ll make a game that follows the formula that so many other games do. I don’t know yet. Please just keep the discussion peaceful and know that, even though some didn’t like it, I did think long and hard about the endings that were ultimately included in the game.

Best,
Sumodeine

Haters gonna hate, complainers gonna complain, these days it's like that's all we ever see. So I'm gonna buck that trend and say a very heart-felt "Thank You". Thank You for writing and developing this game, Thank You for sticking to your story despite all the "requests" to change direction, Thank You for the humor (the beach/bar scene had me in fits of laughter) and Thank You for taking the time to try and explain just why the game ended in the way it has (still downloading so I've not yet played through the new update).

 

[rockthehell]

Why do I even bother if I have to write a whole essay just so people can get my point.
EA could have turned fallen order into a micro transactions shit storm if they wanted to but they held back. I didn't say they made it good or anything. It was an example they did something that they do not want to do and they got rewarded for it. But this is not about EA this is about patreon devs and as I said they stand to gain more money if they implement an idea or two from fans, more fans will be hopeful that their idea might get chosen and they will support the dev but if they don't then some supporters will stop giving them money. Is that so hard to get through your thick skulls? I never said they had to, they can do whatever the fuck they want it is their game. I'm just arguing that doing something the fans want might not be such a bad idea. Sheesh.

As i said above. EA could not turn Fallen order into macro transaction shit, because EA didn't take any part through development cycle.

 

[TheVengefulOne]

As i said above. EA could not turn Fallen order into macro transaction shit, because EA didn't take any part through development cycle.

As I said above this is not about EA I just used it as an example. And I'm not here to debate EA.

 

[magus448]

Spoilers ahead on why the game ends the why it does with each character…


Cory was never going to be a good happy ending for Taylor. They are too different and Taylor lies to her constantly, saying what he thinks she wants to hear. That is not the basis of a good relationship.

Chelsea was more attracted to Cory than she was Taylor. She saw Taylor as a way to get closer to Cory. She knows the Cory likes Taylor and thinks that maybe bringing the three of them together will make her and Cory closer. If Taylor has a threesome with C&C, that leads to C&C opening up their relationship, getting a lot close, and ultimately winning a Gold Medal in the Olympics because they are now more in sync than they’ve ever been.

Skylar may have been a decent option, but her and Taylor barely spent any time together, actually getting to know each other. It was always they run into each other and hook up. Not a bad thing, but certainly not enough base a “they lived happily ever after” scenario on.

Sarah is in a similar boat that Skylar is. She’s gorgeous and there could have maybe potential there, but they’ve had even less interaction than Taylor and Skylar. Giving them an ending based on their interactions would make less sense than Molly pulling an easel out of her purse.

Mrs. Sollain was never going to happen long term. Taylor and her are at two very different points in their lives. Besides, Taylor doesn’t even know her first name!

Ashley is in jail and conjugal visits are hard. Besides, Taylor could never be a vegan and that’s what Ashley was looking for.



Best,
Sumodeine

Forgot Jessica. Surprised D got with one of the other ladies, much less marrying them. Didn't see that coming.

 

[crewfalcons]

Sumodeine Substitute "sister ending/content/relationship" for bass drop

Here we see a young DJ Sumodeine finally placating all those asking for sister ending:

 

[GrizzlyUK]

I'm not disappointed or anything just saying they will lose patrons and it would be their own fault. In order to succeed in something you have to be flexible. Take a look at EA they thought they knew what fans wanted but they were wrong. So yeah if I don't like a story I won't support them.

Of all the game companies you choose to use EA as an example? The company that won "Worst company in America" not once but twice (actually two years in a row)! Seriously, such a bad choice to use as an example!

 

[EliteForever21]

Can you fuck the sister in this game? That is my only question!!Thanks!!

 

[Odin's Eye]

It’s sad that it seems so many people enjoyed the journey of this game, but hated the destination, whereas I feel like I wrote the most logical conclusion and the one that I’ve been moving toward the whole time. Clearly there is a disconnect happening somewhere. At any rate, I’m happy there’s a spirited debate and happy people cared enough about the story and characters to take the time to tell me how stupid/lazy I am. Maybe next time, I’ll make a game that follows the formula that so many other games do. I don’t know yet. Please just keep the discussion peaceful and know that, even though some didn’t like it, I did think long and hard about the endings that were ultimately included in the game.

Best,
Sumodeine

Take this with a pinch of salt but I would say the "problem" is that the initial setup and name of the game really suggests there's going to be some type of major open-ended choice rather than have things narrow down to Molly = good ending, everyone else = not so good.

The thing is that Discord, Patreon, even this thread is like an extended universe/tie-in material for a piece of media. You may have a fantastic reason for a character to do an action that comes out of the blue but if that reason is only given in author notes/threads/outside material and the main project makes it out to be a nonsensical act then the author has failed in their creative process.

I'm talking from the position of a writer so it's not me ragging on you. But to paraphrase the Rock - "It doesn't matter if you told your Patreons this was the path the story was on" if the story itself didn't suggest this until the ending. It's almost similar to "The Bell" game that has the MC Pavlov control his wife only to find out she's play-acting and set the entire situation up. If you don't lay the groundwork then it comes out of nowhere and you get upset fans.

Honestly, I think the game's main failure in this part is there wasn't enough hesitation when dealing with Nikki. You wrote those scenes almost too well with a real groundwork for the two characters having a type of relationship at the end (incest patch ignored). I'm not someone who reads through every announcement a game dev releases so the only way you're going to make sure I know she's not a viable LI is by telling me through the story.

Anyone who is a story creator can't use the crutch of pointing to an external statement to provide proof their story makes sense. It's a failure of the storytelling.

 

[Avaron1974]

Can you fuck the sister in this game? That is my only question!!Thanks!!

You can fuck her, yes, she just isn't a relationship option.

 

[DigDug69]

Having read the comments here, and since my saves for this release are not working, I do not think I will waste my time starting over again.
Based on the other players comments, the end is complete bullshit, and not worth worrying about playing it.

 

[Xclonic]

Having read the comments here, and since my saves for this release are not working, I do not think I will waste my time starting over again.
Based on the other players comments, the end is complete bullshit, and not worth worrying about playing it.

Yup, unless you're interested in ONLY Molly, you're gonna be sad lol

 

[DA22]

Well congrats on ending your first game. Well we did know that Nikki was not an end love interest, though I still think it is a pity you have condemned Nikki to a live of unhappiness with someone that at best is second best in her mind and she will always know that. (Well that ending was not really convincing concerning marc, who does not really suit her, especially since you wrote Nikki as someone that likely was already in love with her brother at age 12 and before and has been fighting against that for years and years before crossing the line with him)

Aside from that thanks, game did have a lot of humor and great moments even if I do feel sorry for Nikki at the end of the game whether you chose for her to be happy or not. Neither outcome seems to me one where she could be really happy long term.

Edit: i guess that is why many have a sad taste in the end with the game, though Molly is a very nice girl and Tales might be happy after, loads of us care more for Nikki and her endings are sad, even if you probably think you gave her one happy ending ......

 

[edgedy]

Congrats on the finale, it was a very fun game.