VN Ren'Py Completed My Sister, My Roommate [v1.69] [Sumodeine]

[mafarus]

As for the game - as a standard, nothing to distinguish it from the masses, however, one thing the authors really succeeded in was Nikki's model. They turned out to be an awesome girl, it’s a pity that it’s virtual

 

[Lolly - Molly]

The ending's kinda leaving me scratching my head, gotta admit. Nikki's a real stunner though, and overall, the game's not too shabby. Big shoutout to the dev for this, and may luck be on their side for their next endeavors!

 

[pavanmce]

All the links are dead. Kindly update the links. Thank you

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

All the links are dead. Kindly update the links. Thank you

To manage this, you'll want to go to the OP (original post, on the first page of the thread) and click the Report option, similar to what you see on my reply here. In the form that appears, choose "Other" and then in the description text box, state that the links are all broken. An uploader, moderator, or staff member can then see the report and update the links accordingly.

 

[doccop63]

I've played through 2/3 of the game now and I can't see the reasoning for having the IC tag. Early in the story and throughout, it's established that the MC and the main female NPC are unrelated. Did I miss something?

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I've played through 2/3 of the game now and I can't see the reasoning for having the IC tag. Early in the story and throughout, it's established that the MC and the main female NPC are unrelated. Did I miss something?

On the OP, you can see a link for an incest patch (it takes you to LewdPatcher.com where the patch resides). That patch puts incest in the game, thus the tag gets applied. You don't have to use the patch, but the tag remains because of it.

 

[doccop63]

Thanks

 

[Walter Victor]

I've played through 2/3 of the game now and I can't see the reasoning for having the IC tag. Early in the story and throughout, it's established that the MC and the main female NPC are unrelated. Did I miss something?

On the OP, you can see a link for an incest patch (it takes you to LewdPatcher.com where the patch resides). That patch puts incest in the game, thus the tag gets applied. You don't have to use the patch, but the tag remains because of it.

The patch contains one variable. The game tests for the presence or absence of that variable, and either turns the relationship into brother-sister or boy-unrelated-friend.

Because the scripts are written this way, it is obvious that the developer wanted each player to have the choice as to how they played the game, hence the tag.

 

[Bigapee]

Because the scripts are written this way, it is obvious that the developer wanted each player to have the choice as to how they played the game, hence the tag.

i think its far more likely he wanted to keep Patreon money coming and they don't allow that sort of thing. the game is called "My sister my roommate" the sister part was always intended.

 

[SisterFucker3099]

i think its far more likely he wanted to keep Patreon money coming and they don't allow that sort of thing. the game is called "My sister my roommate" the sister part was always intended.

I think the dev should have added it him/herself, that's the only way to get a good incest patch, and not a fix where a few lines are exchanged..

 

[Walter Victor]

I think the dev should have added it him/herself, that's the only way to get a good incest patch, and not a fix where a few lines are exchanged..

I don't understand what you mean. The developer created the patch and worked it into the script.

The developer wanted to get paid, and at the time, Patreon was the best source for that. But Sumodeine wanted incest in the game, so because of Patreon's rules, the patch was created BY THE DEVELOPER.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I think the dev should have added it him/herself, that's the only way to get a good incest patch, and not a fix where a few lines are exchanged..

It's literally just a variable in the original script to check for patch or not-patch, like Walter Victor said two posts above yours. So the dev added how dialogue changes himself; the patch only turns that variable to True or False to decide what variant it will show. For instance (from v4.rpy if you want to have reference for where this specific example is found):

460    scene v4nafternoon
461
462    if nikcest:
463        N "Hey Little Bro!"
464    else:
465        N "Hey Tales!"
466
467    scene v4nafternoon2

As you can see, it's all 100% controlled by the dev himself.

 

[SisterFucker3099]

It's literally just a variable in the original script to check for patch or not-patch, like Walter Victor said two posts above yours. So the dev added how dialogue changes himself; the patch only turns that variable to True or False to decide what variant it will show. For instance (from v4.rpy if you want to have reference for where this specific example is found):

460    scene v4nafternoon
461
462    if nikcest:
463        N "Hey Little Bro!"
464    else:
465        N "Hey Tales!"
466
467    scene v4nafternoon2

As you can see, it's all 100% controlled by the dev himself.

My answer is not specific for this game, I meant it in general, if the dev himself added it from the start it's something that can be turned on/off for patreon and other crazies. But often you see a patch that needs to be updated every update, that just exchange all the texts for incest versions. So the last one is where it artifical suggested.

This is better... just 1 variable...

Or a few where you can choose the relations, al be it, I rather have a patch which just sets those relationships...

 

[SisterFucker3099]

I don't understand what you mean. The developer created the patch and worked it into the script.

The developer wanted to get paid, and at the time, Patreon was the best source for that. But Sumodeine wanted incest in the game, so because of Patreon's rules, the patch was created BY THE DEVELOPER.

Like other answer, I was talking in general, a turn on/off patch like here is probably the best way to go...

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

My answer is not specific for this game, I meant it in general, if the dev himself added it from the start it's something that can be turned on/off for patreon and other crazies. But often you see a patch that needs to be updated every update, that just exchange all the texts for incest versions. So the last one is where it artifical suggested.

This is better... just 1 variable...

Or a few where you can choose the relations, al be it, I rather have a patch which just sets those relationships...

I agree it's definitely better if the dev themselves does the patch. I know of several games like that, but very often the dev doesn't bother since they know inevitably someone on F95Zone (or elsewhere) will create an incest patch. If someone else is pretty much guaranteed to do the work, why would you bother doing it yourself? I'm not saying I necessarily agree, but I believe that's likely what a lot of developers think.

I'd guess the biggest problem with a patch made by someone else is that you might need to do a ton of work in changing sentences spoken (or thought) in the game, depending on what you're playing. Some games have the dialogue written relatively neutrally and use variables like [sisRel] and [mcNickJane] that makes it work much more easily because an i-patch just has to specify those variable replacements. ("That's my best friend, dickweed! Gingersnap, are you all right?" might become "That's my sister, dickweed! Sis, are you all right?") Clearly, those work well also.

Sometimes, though, there are no variables for relationships or the like. In those cases, patches work much less effectively and often rely on finding and replacing text in the dialogue. It sounds simple enough, but depending on who the speaker is it can go badly too. If Alice, the MC's roommate/sister, is talking with her best friend, she might say, "I can't believe Sarah won't let me go!" so if Sarah is the mother of the MC and Alice, the sentence would read, "I can't believe Mom won't let me go!" That's fine, but what happens if the best friend says the sentence? "I can't believe Mom won't let you go!" doesn't work, because Sarah is Alice's mom, not her friend's mom. And Ren'Py does not have the ability to identify who the speaker is when replacing text, so when it finds an instance of "Sarah" in dialogue, it doesn't know who is saying the word. Therefore it can't be situational and becomes a bit sloppy.

The workaround, ofc, is to rewrite entire lines of dialogue, but that's potentially a lot of work for no pay. Additionally, it might require replacing an entire script file in the /game folder rather than just being an additional file. If the patch creator makes a seemingly simple mistake, it's possible the game will break. Unlikely, but still technically a risk.

These are some examples of why it's best if the dev themselves makes the patch. And it works very well in My Sister, My Roommate precisely for that reason.

 

[SisterFucker3099]

I agree it's definitely better if the dev themselves does the patch. I know of several games like that, but very often the dev doesn't bother since they know inevitably someone on F95Zone (or elsewhere) will create an incest patch. If someone else is pretty much guaranteed to do the work, why would you bother doing it yourself? I'm not saying I necessarily agree, but I believe that's likely what a lot of developers think.

I'd guess the biggest problem with a patch made by someone else is that you might need to do a ton of work in changing sentences spoken (or thought) in the game, depending on what you're playing. Some games have the dialogue written relatively neutrally and use variables like [sisRel] and [mcNickJane] that makes it work much more easily because an i-patch just has to specify those variable replacements. ("That's my best friend, dickweed! Gingersnap, are you all right?" might become "That's my sister, dickweed! Sis, are you all right?") Clearly, those work well also.

Sometimes, though, there are no variables for relationships or the like. In those cases, patches work much less effectively and often rely on finding and replacing text in the dialogue. It sounds simple enough, but depending on who the speaker is it can go badly too. If Alice, the MC's roommate/sister, is talking with her best friend, she might say, "I can't believe Sarah won't let me go!" so if Sarah is the mother of the MC and Alice, the sentence would read, "I can't believe Mom won't let me go!" That's fine, but what happens if the best friend says the sentence? "I can't believe Mom won't let you go!" doesn't work, because Sarah is Alice's mom, not her friend's mom. And Ren'Py does not have the ability to identify who the speaker is when replacing text, so when it finds an instance of "Sarah" in dialogue, it doesn't know who is saying the word. Therefore it can't be situational and becomes a bit sloppy.

The workaround, ofc, is to rewrite entire lines of dialogue, but that's potentially a lot of work for no pay. Additionally, it might require replacing an entire script file in the /game folder rather than just being an additional file. If the patch creator makes a seemingly simple mistake, it's possible the game will break. Unlikely, but still technically a risk.

These are some examples of why it's best if the dev themselves makes the patch. And it works very well in My Sister, My Roommate precisely for that reason.

To add to your story, we also got those dev's that constantly feel the need to go back and fix dialogs in previous chapters, without really progressing the story.

But I would suggest, if the dev didn't think about it, and implement it, it's really a game that doesn't have incest, so the patch would only be artifical, to just make some 'incest freaks' happy.

I personally just want what the dev original intended, and that is 99.9% not having MC living with his landlady who he treats like his mom and calling a girl who lives in another room a roomie. It's my understanding that a roomie is someone who lives in the same room. And a landlady is only there to collect the money, not to make food for him or wash his clothes.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I personally just want what the dev original intended, and that is 99.9% not having MC living with his landlady who he treats like his mom and calling a girl who lives in another room a roomie. It's my understanding that a roomie is someone who lives in the same room. And a landlady is only there to collect the money, not to make food for him or wash his clothes.

This is my view exactly. I'm neutral on a lot of fetishes, including incest and others. So having them related doesn't bother me in the slightest. Having them unrelated doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just want to see a story as the creator intended to enjoy the work they've done. That's pretty much it TBH.

My little tagline at the bottom of my signature about taboos is there for a reason. It describes my attitude about things perfectly. There are fetishes I don't enjoy, ofc, but I have no problem with their existence in a game. Even if they're not optional, as long as things I don't enjoy aren't heavily in the game I don't mind it much. And, if there's a game where that stuff is abundant, I can always just not play the game. No harm, no foul.

 

[SisterFucker3099]

This is my view exactly. I'm neutral on a lot of fetishes, including incest and others. So having them related doesn't bother me in the slightest. Having them unrelated doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just want to see a story as the creator intended to enjoy the work they've done. That's pretty much it TBH.

My little tagline at the bottom of my signature about taboos is there for a reason. It describes my attitude about things perfectly. There are fetishes I don't enjoy, ofc, but I have no problem with their existence in a game. Even if they're not optional, as long as things I don't enjoy aren't heavily in the game I don't mind it much. And, if there's a game where that stuff is abundant, I can always just not play the game. No harm, no foul.

Yeh exactly. A nice example to taking fetishes to extreme is lunar's chosen. I thought it was funny with the magic and the dicks. But it got irritating, one way is no dicks, which misses half the story, and the other option is getting fucked by every woman having a dick. Which got old very soon.

But I'm not allowed to say anything about it, or the dev gives me a facepalm. Well this (my sister my roommate) game is great, unfortunately I already played it twice. Might be a third time sometime soon...

 

[AntonioGustavo]

What is the deal with the dev? Is he still working on a new game?

 

[SisterFucker3099]

What is the deal with the dev? Is he still working on a new game?

Hasn't posted on his patreon for 2 years, not sure if he is still alive...