VN Ren'Py Abandoned My Sweet Neighbors [v0.12] [Pandelo]

[Sonico]

I see the pic now of MSN & it looks like they're blondes ...buuut I Swear I remember them as platinum blondes (so light blonde it was almost grey/silver but neither looked older for it) but maybe I'm getting some form of memory bias lol

Memory bias, screen resolution and setting could have been slightly different back then or a mix of both, not to mention there are different shades of color within any broad type and the tone in a certain scene stick more in one's mind than another.

 

[Orangepocalypse]

Seconding the WoS dev aggressively pushing his game on MSN fans. And it angered me, because they’re nothing alike.

This is exactly the sentiment I was trying to get at when I used the word "parasitic". I suppose the best advice I could give to the kind soul who is resurrecting the project is to try and stay true to the spirit of the original and let the work speak for itself. Let other people make the claim about how well you've done your thing.

I might be presuming too much, but my take on the story was that it was always going to be about juggling mom and daughter and that any MFF scenes would involve one or the other along with side characters that had been introduced. The mother-daughter dynamic was always going to be tension between them as they both get more deeply involved with MC, but sex with both of them at the same time was not only off the table due to Patreon restrictions, but because that's not what was driving the plot.

The story was already introducing the dynamic of navigating around the mother's suspicions (at the point where the story leaves off, mom is realizing that daughter is crushing on MC) and likely the daughter's developing attitude towards her mother as a romantic rival whom she couldn't directly confront.

What MSN wasn't going to be based on the story development thus far was a mindless hump fest. My spider sense tells me that it is precisely for this reason that the game was so popular. The building tension in the relationships was making the story very interesting, and I have my fingers crossed we are going to finally get to the "navigating the stormy seas" part of the story.

 

[micmitja]

This is exactly the sentiment I was trying to get at when I used the word "parasitic". I suppose the best advice I could give to the kind soul who is resurrecting the project is to try and stay true to the spirit of the original and let the work speak for itself. Let other people make the claim about how well you've done your thing.

I might be presuming too much, but my take on the story was that it was always going to be about juggling mom and daughter and that any MFF scenes would involve one or the other along with side characters that had been introduced. The mother-daughter dynamic was always going to be tension between them as they both get more deeply involved with MC, but sex with both of them at the same time was not only off the table due to Patreon restrictions, but because that's not what was driving the plot.

The story was already introducing the dynamic of navigating around the mother's suspicions (at the point where the story leaves off, mom is realizing that daughter is crushing on MC) and likely the daughter's developing attitude towards her mother as a romantic rival whom she couldn't directly confront.

What MSN wasn't going to be based on the story development thus far was a mindless hump fest. My spider sense tells me that it is precisely for this reason that the game was so popular. The building tension in the relationships was making the story very interesting, and I have my fingers crossed we are going to finally get to the "navigating the stormy seas" part of the story.

msn was always gona be harem game , let the dev tells you

https://f95zone.to/threads/my-sweet-neighbors-v0-12-pandelo.3304/post-537363

https://f95zone.to/threads/my-sweet-neighbors-v0-12-pandelo.3304/post-552542

 

[Ignatz]

What we will never get is the ending that was intended. As good as the intentions on the completion attempt is and as true to the story "so far" as it can be, we will never know what Pandelo intended.

We have some clues based on his responses to posts. He never saw this as a harem game. And he always seemed to feel that the mother and daughter were on equal footing as rivals for the MC, each with their own allure.

My thought was that he was going to have a final clear choice, mother or daughter, with a split finish for each path. Considering the emotional investment he put into each character, those endings would have been intense.

Regardless, someone's goodwill attempt to revive/finish this game gives potential hope for this long-lost treasure.

 

[Ignatz]

msn was always gona be harem game , let the dev tells you
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I have some direct conversations with him that seem to refute that. Again, we will never know, I suppose.

 

[micmitja]

I have some direct conversations with him that seem to refute that. Again, we will never know, I suppose.

yeah we wont see the end of this game sadly and i would be happy with m+d ending as it was planed

 

[elsanna_iduna]

I very much hope for M+D action should this game finally get finished. I remember a scene where they both kissed on the lips in front of the MC and he thought it was hot. This was always headed that route IMO.

 

[micmitja]

I very much hope for M+D action should this game finally get finished. I remember a scene where they both kissed on the lips in front of the MC and he thought it was hot. This was always headed that route IMO.

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[pippippero]

Currently working on a remake/remaster.
This game along with DmD is what got me into VNs and 3d art. I've been hesitant in starting my own projects for a while since none of them have been able to really interest me in the long term like these older games did.

I have decided to put my focus into remaking/remastering this classic with the intention of updating the visuals and dialogue while retaining the charm of the original.

Here is a preview of the neighbors, still a work in progress

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Please, try to not vanish from the world or suddenly pass away as everyone else did before you as they tried to reboot this game. This game is cursed, please take care of yourself.

 

[elsanna_iduna]

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I mean...logically the best way to make them happy is to share the love, rather than break them apart. Harem is the best morale choice in this situation (a hint of sarcasm)

 

[Ayhsel]

Please, try to not vanish from the world or suddenly pass away as everyone else did before you as they tried to reboot this game. This game is cursed, please take care of yourself.

Best comment ever.

I mean...logically the best way to make them happy is to share the love, rather than break them apart. Harem is the best morale choice in this situation (a hint of sarcasm)

Absolutely not! If anything, the game worked so well precisely because there was no sharing, keeping the conflict up.

Imagine the game was "of course my baby, you can fuck my boyfriend". Then, story is over as there is no drama. No conflict, no story!

In fact, the last update that was released happened to end precisely when the story was going to get more interesting.

So, sharing between mom and daughter would be a terrible approach to go.

Any story requires conflict.

 

[BYK370]

Likely by the end of next month. Pandelo organized his project files by release so I'm able to follow his original updates and release around those.

hey man if the remake version release at next month it will available in this page or new page?

 

[Deleted member 4407051]

hey man if the remake version release at next month it will available in this page or new page?

it will have it's own post

 

[BYK370]

it will have it's own post

noted thanks can't wait for it~

 

[ubblesnop]

Out of respect for Pandelo, I won't share information on what assets he uses for his game unless he tells me it's alright by him. You are of course welcome to figure it out on your own, though. As a consolation, here's a fan render I did in 10 minutes just now:

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I didn't bother with a lot of accuracy as to the hair's morphs, the nose, and the body's morphs (I didn't even try to match those at all and just used a body I sculpted last week for my own use). Also, the skirt is not the correct one, and the shoes aren't using the same shaders he used and are possibly not even the same shoes.

So… now that three years have passed, would you reconsider sharing those assets?

 

[Deleted member 4407051]

A couple of environment previews of MC's empty apartment. I'm about to start rendering the intro scene while I finish writing 0.1

 

[19Castiel23]

Please, try to not vanish from the world or suddenly pass away as everyone else did before you as they tried to reboot this game. This game is cursed, please take care of yourself.

I totally agree there is a curse in this game

 

[SumTingWong0420]

Best comment ever.

Absolutely not! If anything, the game worked so well precisely because there was no sharing, keeping the conflict up.

Imagine the game was "of course my baby, you can fuck my boyfriend". Then, story is over as there is no drama. No conflict, no story!

In fact, the last update that was released happened to end precisely when the story was going to get more interesting.

So, sharing between mom and daughter would be a terrible approach to go.

Any story requires conflict.

PL did it juuust fine (if my memory wasn't akin to a goldfishes I'd be able to come up with near countless examples of other titles that managed to extend the thril without milking the being caught thing) there are infinite sources of drama in the *real world* now imagine if you don't even need to adhere to reality to come up with dramatic scenarios to advance the plot dynamic. In my personal opinion no one would be considered a good writer if they can't come up with anything more than the 'dont get caught' troupe >;D

 

[drowsy]

Currently working on a remake/remaster.
This game along with DmD is what got me into VNs and 3d art. I've been hesitant in starting my own projects for a while since none of them have been able to really interest me in the long term like these older games did.

I have decided to put my focus into remaking/remastering this classic with the intention of updating the visuals and dialogue while retaining the charm of the original.

Here is a preview of the neighbors, still a work in progress

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Nice. They both look quite close to the original, but not 100%.

The daughter's face looks a bit more 'mature' than the original, the facial structure being a bit different. The original had slightly more neoteny (larger & lower-set eyes, smaller chin). The hair looks great, like the original but maybe a bit longer. The mother is closer imo. Not sure, but the jaw of the original might be a bit weaker.

No idea if these changes were intentional tho.

 

[Deleted member 4407051]

Nice. They both look quite close to the original, but not 100%.

The daughter's face looks a bit more 'mature' than the original, the facial structure being a bit different. The original had slightly more neoteny (larger & lower-set eyes, smaller chin). The hair looks great, like the original but maybe a bit longer. The mother is closer imo. Not sure, but the jaw of the original might be a bit weaker.

No idea if these changes were intentional tho.

that's because I made them with genesis 8.1 and the original were genesis 3. I tried to make them more natural looking without going too photorealistic