Unity Completed Mystwood Manor [v1.1.2] [Faerin]

[konabwo]

Personal preference, maybe?

well we were talking about games in general.
but her eyes are narrowish as well (though in her case it doesnot look unnatural. more like some cheeks tention when making a fake smile ...or protecting yourself from wind with dust and sand)
check the mom from tyrant. that is how eyes should look like. like normal human eyes. 75% of all daz renders have some sort of crackization (see 3 examples)
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yeah it stays but i mean i would have made a choice i need had i known the tips (instead of waiting until the next day) . but i cannot access it if i (1)left that screen on my own volition (2) did something here and there and the game threw it in my face

 

[konabwo]

"eye sockets"
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The reason I said personal preference, is because I do not find them weird & you seemingly do.
Different strokes for different folks.

Honestly, don't worry about missing something.
Even if you miss it one day, it will still be available (at the correct time and in the correct place) the following day.

but how would u call narrow eye sockets?. (hint: crackholes! ;] )
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i mean....i can understand that it is a preference to play or not and to choose to like /tolerate it for whatever reason (for example i was ok with playing the twist ...but isnt there some objective reality ...like such renders (faces) are of low quality...but the overall game feel environment was kinda sims-like and 'arcadish' so i disregarded any 'objective' judgement and was fine with what i saw . though i failed to detach myself that way with honeyselekt renders. they are more like real asian humans...yet trying to be not asian humans and morphing to something weird european or animeish)

i find weird everything which is unnatural (and 3/4 of 3d western renders i saw are that. whether it is cracks or some animeish and caricaturish eyes [ditched Photo Hunt because of that] ...ofc add there skin color of wax figures or of overcooked turkey, triangle butts, weird sexdoll and mannequine faces ...all that is a turn off for me. ...and all abovementioned is objectively unnatural (so i cannot call it a preference to consider something weird as being weird)
now im just less tolerant and started to avoid games with such imperfections.

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bar and kitchen are closed now... i have no idea how to repair it. maybe the girl with mantainance skill will help.

 

[konabwo]

This is a tautological question.
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"Unnatural" in your opinion. Hence "personal preference".

not if there is some metaphorical or slang wording
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"Unnatural" by objective standards. if a game (and thus render) tries (some obviously dont) to replicate a human being then you can tell what is natural or not.

almost full package: mannequin with cracksockets. do those sockets look normal to you?

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[jmcronshaw]

i'd be curious how many people who complain about this game not being as good as Man of the House actually played that game during it's development and not just the finished product.

 

[larry5168]

You think it's unnatural. This is your opinion.
Other people do not.
The word unnatural only applies in your opinion.

I'm afraid that your opinion is incorrect. Having her eyes half closed is not unnatural.

Spoiler: Real people have eyes like that, too.

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They exist in nature, so it's perfectly natural. By literal definition.
This is an objective fact. Not an opinion.

He might have watched a little too much anime and is looking for this

 

[DrakaF]

but if any of you like to give feedback on what you would like to see rebalanced/added/changed to make it more enjoyable, just know that I read all suggestions and take them into consideration.

Somehow I always find it enjoyable to search for 'hidden items'.
So for instance when you hover over one of the towels in attached screenshot it 'lights up'. This way in the gallery an extra render is unlocked.

 

[whichone]

feels like there is a need for another working girl

There's room for an 8th.

I can't remember now, but I'm sure Hana's sister was discussed a while back, before she made her appearance in the last update.
Either way, I presume, due to the empty slot, that an 8th girl is/was planned.

hopefully the guests will get some action

This one I definitely saw a statement saying more of these will happen.
I think the plan was to get all the girls to full Tier 4 first.
That's done now, so more guest interactions & possibly another girl in the coming updates.

 

[konabwo]

They exist in nature, so it's perfectly natural

never thought about half-eyed people as in nature it does look ...natural
which is not a case for most existing 3Drendered eyes areas (even if everything else is fine).
(wheter there was an attempt to replicate 'half-closed' eyes or just a fail to recreate eyes of a human being. sometimes cracks are permanent and seen from any any angle sometimes it appears with certain facial expressions)

lets take main op pic of badik .

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larry5168

He might have watched a little too much anime and is looking for this

shameless propaganda! im not into anime and i mentioned one game which i ditched (Photo hunt) where there is a npc with caricaturish features (including some too wide eyes)

 

[Nerttu]

Need help !!!!
How can I rice Sophias VIP level above 1 ????? Every else has VIP level 5 except Nora has 4 and it seems to be stuck at that !!!! I loaded the game couple of days ago first time and played about 40+ hours now (no mod) and unlocked every tier and photos !!!!

 

[S3pHiroTh]

Need help !!!!
How can I rice Sophias VIP level above 1 ????? Every else has VIP level 5 except Nora has 4 and it seems to be stuck at that !!!! I loaded the game couple of days ago first time and played about 40+ hours now (no mod) and unlocked every tier and photos !!!!

It is the same way as you have done for the other people, check in Sophia and Nora with level 5 in the lobby than satisfy them without any complains.
In the game you can achieve at max 95% of satisfaction score at level 5, so if you don't reach that point I think you have missed some required cards or the girls you have haven't enough experience or you haven't items for the job or you haven't upgraded the room.
Also now with the Office room, it should be a bit easier to get them at vip level 5

 

[Cartageno]

never thought about half-eyed people as in nature it does look ...natural
which is not a case for most existing 3Drendered eyes areas (even if everything else is fine).
(wheter there was an attempt to replicate 'half-closed' eyes or just a fail to recreate eyes of a human being. sometimes cracks are permanent and seen from any any angle sometimes it appears with certain facial expressions)

lets take main op pic of badik .

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larry5168
shameless propaganda! im not into anime and i mentioned one game which i ditched (Photo hunt) where there is a npc with caricaturish features (including some too wide eyes)

I cannot say I see your point. Yes, they all do have a certain "daz3d" look - as with every other software used on here you can tell where they were made, which gives them a similar look and which may seem unnatural once you notice the peculiarities. Maybe it's worse for daz3d since generally it has more realistic features than HS or Koikatsu, so the "sameness" stands out more, triggering your "uncanny valley" feel. Which you seem to be seeing in the eyes.

But I gotta admit that I don't see anything specifically wrong with them even after you pointed out what you mean. Yes, as artificially generated characters do, they have a plastic-y look, but I guess your brain is trying to rationalize something that cannot be clearly defined here (that's not meant negatively in any way, it's what a working brain does) and came to the conclusion "the eyes, gotta be the eyes". Personally I have a different effect in that my brain tells me is that the skin always looks a bit "waxy" to me with daz3d characters.

It doesn't trigger uncanny valley for me - luckily, that would be really bad in this kind of game - but it is noticeable.

Also, in many games the proportions especially of tits-waist-ass, feel unnatural to me, but that is probably not a software problem ...

But in the end: these are no renders which makes one believe they're seeing an actual picture of an actual person. Your brain tells you it's the eyes, mine doesn't. It is a bit unnatural either way for everything. Maybe in real life you are an eye person, eyes can make a girl attractive to you, so you spend extra attention where we others still linger on the boo... general beauty?

 

[Michel Mak]

There's room for an 8th.
View attachment 1272703
I can't remember now, but I'm sure Hana's sister was discussed a while back, before she made her appearance in the last update.
Either way, I presume, due to the empty slot, that an 8th girl is/was planned.

This one I definitely saw a statement saying more of these will happen.
I think the plan was to get all the girls to full Tier 4 first.
Это сделано сейчас, так что больше гостевых взаимодействий и, возможно, еще одна девушка в ближайших обновлениях.

Yea, Faerin wants to introduce 1 more girl. Catalina

 

[S3pHiroTh]

Yea, Faerin wants to introduce 1 more girl. Catalina View attachment 1273057

I thought that this should be next girl "Catalina"

 

[Grizzly^_^]

Just some feedback after playing for a good bit (nearly to end of update).
I know that mostly the relationship and events will come as the game goes along so this isn't about that. So instead of talking about the Naughty Bits, lets talk about the Mechanics...

Spoiler: 1: The Office

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Spoiler: 2: Modifiers and Boosts

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Spoiler: 4: About the Guests

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Spoiler: 5: MC Inclusion

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[konabwo]

on that photo a person i assume is smiling so yeah some cheek and other facial muscles have some effect on eyes area but it doesnot look weird* (along with earlier half-opened eyes ppl photos) within our context.

(*well, unless it is all the time and when not smiling but still it will far from the rendered eyes i mostly see. if being messed up - from any angle and with any emotion such will look like unnatural cracks)

to use such photos is to flatter rendermakers ...because the most blatant examples of their eyes rendering f ups* should be compared with RL cheek botox injecting and-or face lifting procedure went wrong (or not necessarely wrong but with the same result) ...

(*)another set of examples, looks like everyone in FILF, daughter from summer with mia, mother and doctor from CMA. nothing of that can be considered normal/natural.

 

[Michel Mak]

on that photo a person i assume is smiling so yeah some cheek and other facial muscles have some effect on eyes area but it doesnot look weird* (along with earlier half-opened eyes ppl photos) within our context.

(*well, unless it is all the time and when not smiling but still it will far from the rendered eyes i mostly see. if being messed up - from any angle and with any emotion such will look like unnatural cracks)

to use such photos is to flatter rendermakers ...because the most blatant examples of their eyes rendering f ups* should be compared with RL cheek botox injecting and-or face lifting procedure went wrong (or not necessarely wrong but with the same result) ...

(*)another set of examples, looks like everyone in FILF, daughter from summer with mia, mother and doctor from CMA. nothing of that can be considered normal/natural.

To be honest, you're fucked up with your research.

 

[PyoT]

Yea, Faerin wants to introduce 1 more girl. Catalina

Mhmmm. Bit disappointingly "generic porn character #7", gotta say, but whatever.

 

[Cartageno]

my point was that some renders are objectively weird and-or ugly.

Sorry, I might have not expressed myself well. I did get the point you're trying to make about the images (eyes of characters) looking unnatural to you. What I did not get was the feeling "ah, I see it" even after you pointed out what precisely it is that is bothering you.

But, as whichone already pointed out, neither "weird" nor "ugly" are in any way objective criteria. Even if we all agreed, it would only be a majority opinion, maybe even one shared by 100%, but it would still be an opinion. And here I just do not happen to share the opinion that all the characters you mentioned are "weird" or "ugly", neither because of the eyes nor otherwise. I can show you a shipload of images from characters I consider looking weird and/or ugly, but it would be mostly other characters and mostly other reasons.

 

[Cartageno]

Mhmmm. Bit disappointingly "generic porn character #7", gotta say, but whatever.

Well, most characters do look a bit like that, don't they? It's just the question whether this generic porn character hits our sweet spots or not - and to some what the story makes of their character.

 

[whichone]

Well, most characters do look a bit like that, don't they? It's just the question whether this generic porn character hits our sweet spots or not - and to some what the story makes of their character.

lol Agreed. One man's meat is another man's gravy.
I think the 2nd part of this is hugely important.
A decent writer can change how a character appears (despite looking identical to a stock asset seen in other games) by crafting their personality well.