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It'll have NTR, eventually that dude sleeping in the woods will wake up and take all the ladies down the well.
That's when the real game starts.
That's when the real game starts.
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Be careful, this is a dangerous wish!I'm not calling for anything, but this game has space for the development of ntr/prostitution content
By taking the literal meaning of NTR as a definition (Netori + Netorare), since no one is in a stable relationship in this game, i see zero leeway for NTR. Unless one of the guests is married
Other men could be sexual active, but only one of the male guests looks attractive in my eyes. I would have no problem with that. Assuming it's tied into a good story, I'm actually up for NTR, sharing, swinging, and so on. So, for me, other men and women are welcome to be sexually active in a game. But I'm sure I'm almost alone. The forum generally likes to go stormy when a different penis appears than that of the MC.
Kay on the other hand has already been actively interested in several women. So there will be sharing. That's the way it is: women are tolerated, men are not. I would wish it differently. But the forum is not that far yet
As far as I know, the game is not planned that way (with the exception of Kay). And most fans will also be strictly against it. They will not accept anything other than their harem. So, I doubt your wish will be fulfilled.
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I agree with a lot of what you said, however I'll pick on the "The forum is not that far yet". If we were talking about real life acceptance, I'd be on board, there would be no way to accept one but not the other without being hypocritical. However, this isn't real life, it is wish fulfillment, and here I will accept a lot of things I wouldn't in real life, because it will satisfy my kinks. Yes, that may make my character a hypocritical asshole, but I've done worse in games, I killed innocent people by the millions without anybody thinking I'd behave or think the same way as a person. A bit of "these are myyyyyyyyy girls, my preeeeeeciouuuuuus" should pale in comparison.Be careful, this is a dangerous wish!
By taking the literal meaning of NTR as a definition (Netori + Netorare), since no one is in a stable relationship in this game, i see zero leeway for NTR. Unless one of the guests is married
Other men could be sexual active, but only one of the male guests looks attractive in my eyes. I would have no problem with that. Assuming it's tied into a good story, I'm actually up for NTR, sharing, swinging, and so on. So, for me, other men and women are welcome to be sexually active in a game. But I'm sure I'm almost alone. The forum generally likes to go stormy when a different penis appears than that of the MC.
Kay on the other hand has already been actively interested in several women. So there will be sharing. That's the way it is: women are tolerated, men are not. I would wish it differently. But the forum is not that far yet
As far as I know, the game is not planned that way (with the exception of Kay). And most fans will also be strictly against it. They will not accept anything other than their harem. So, I doubt your wish will be fulfilled.
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I think the nun is married. Just Sayin'.
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Who's got the 3? Sofia is married. Her husband (Miguel) and son (Diego) are both guests.
I'd happily fuck her (& Denise & Sister Nora!). lol
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Hey, I run this hotel and I KNOW how Miguel looks at Amber and Kay in the bar.
I'll let Hana slip Sofia a webm of the Big M on the K Bum, and she'll execute the P Nup.
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lol I'm not interested in Miguel - look but don't touch! Siccing Hana on him would be funny!
The female guests, however...
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But then you actually ARE interested: You need him out of the picture for Sofia, right???lol I'm not interested in Miguel - look but don't touch! Siccing Hana on him would be funny!
The female guests, however...
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lol Fortunately, as guests, they don't come as a package deal.But then you actually ARE interested: You need him out of the picture for Sofia, right???
I can accept her and refuse him.
That's not because I'm interested in him. It's because I'm interested in her and he's a potential obstacle that needs removing.
Once removed, no more obstacle = no more interest in removing it.
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Did you know that the cheat mode only becomes active once you have finished le tuto?
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If people want to run a business with NTR, just play Secret Care Cafe(It's very good). I like how this is it's own thing. with it's own atmosphere.
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Yes, there are. A number of oral sex scenes, a couple of tit sex scenes, plus a few vaginal.
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That's exactly the point. The people here take the games too seriously and personally. They regard every woman as their property, they have to be faithful, they are not themselves. And other men are just impotent decoration.
Privately I am absolutely honest, I have a wife and children. I've never cheated on her. Do not intend to. Neither do my wife.
But:
In games I enjoy all stories if they are good. It can be romantic and vanilla, but it can also really crack, with swinging, cheating, NTR etc. Provided the story is good. I also never really identify with the MC. He's just the avatar through whom i experience the story. There are games where I even find the male MC boring, but the other men, if available, are much more interesting. And in my imagination i slip into every imaginable role from whose perspective i then experience what happens. Always the way I like it. I'm not the MC, i'm every character in this game! This way I enjoy all the lewd scenes and the stories that lead there. It's okay if my ingame wife has sex with others if there's a hot, understandable story behind it. Story is half of all the fun. My real wife is watching too. And she just wants to see other men too. Why not? And it's just that if gamers are open-minded that all characters in the game can have sex, the developers get a lot more possibilities to create good stories for us that are often not possible with harem and vanilla. In principle you can turn every imaginable film into an erotic parody. An erotic thriller is hardly possible with vanilla and harem.
And that's the reproach I make against the so-called NTR haters (in truth, any other guys dick hater). By their stubbornness they restrict the developers massively. This way, an extremely large amount of potential remains unused. Almost all vanilla / harem titles are essentially the same. At some point that is dead boring. And that shouldn't be at all. It's up to the players that almost everything is the same.
It doesn't matter who has sex with whom in the game, nothing is taken away from me. I definitely get everything because i'm the only real person in front of the computer. I do the choises, so everything i earn is mine. And that's actually how it is intended to consume such games. I don't know why so many don't want to understand that.
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See, I think this is the central point. Some people watch a story completely from the outside, like they would most movies or books. Some identify with the MC but will play him, e. g. the MC is not them, they would do things they wouldn't do in real life. Others will play the MC like they themselves would act (I don't mean the whoring around as such, which is kind of a central point to the premise of the game, and as you, I don't intend to nor would I want to in real life, but other decisions - being comforting, being spiteful). I don't think this is a choice you make, it is just how you experience the medium. And it will affect how you react to what's going on. And while you do slip into every role in the story you want, others do not.
You can in my opinion when you place enough obstacles (which many harem games don't and go the "look, there's 13 girls/women who all want to fuck you, have fun" route which I do find boring as hell). However, this I say again is not a choice, the being open about everything. If people were musically more open, composers would have way more options to make music. Yet I don't like twelve-tone music. It's not about being not open, it bores me. Others find it intellectually stimulating.
If devs go along with it to have more subscribers, yes, it is. However devs can (and do) offer other options. And if people like what they like, we can consider it boring, but it needn't be for them. There are people who always drink the same kind of beverage, who will eat the same lunch 4 times a week, yet they enjoy it. I wouldn't but who am I to tell them what they like? Maybe it is being "stubborn" because they never tried anything else. But maybe they did and found they just didn't enjoy it? To avoid the dreaded NTR example: I've played some female protag games. But I identify with the lead character, so I do not watch from the outside, and it is difficult for me to play them, in the end I do not enjoy this. And neither will you get people who dislike NTR to like it if they were "less stubborn". We enjoy what we enjoy, not what is more advanced in techniques, offers more options, is better.
The problem is when people actively go out and request a kink in a game or a kink being removed instead of just ignoring it when it is not to your liking. But being an "other dick hater" myself, in general I couldn't care less about what opportunities non-haters miss, because I would not like any of these anyway. I mean, I am not against it existing and people enjoying it, but I just do not care. Like I do not care about Trance music, or extra extra extra hot sauces, or bungee jumping - do what you want, I don't care. Only if you then try to convince me to enjoy any of it, if I have to eat any overspiced food just to get to my rib eye steak, I might object.
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I don't want to persuade anyone to like or dislike something. This is simple impossible.
But i want to turn people away from hatred in general, especially when it comes to NTR. It starts with the definition. Said hater, define everything as NTR, which includes another guy. In most cases this is completely wrong. Netori, on the other hand, which is also NTR, doesn't bother them at all. Which proves it's not about NTR at all.
But a real war is raging in this forum. Especially from the so-called NTR haters. They discover a scene in a game that they don't like. That is burned as NTR and the eternal flaming starts. They are pretended to have committed a serious crime against them. And they really band together. This not only breaks eternal arguments, but also makes outrageous demands on the developers. Instead of simply accepting that they have decided to put something in there.
And that is actually a childish behavior that cannot be tolerated. Most of these scenes are avoidable unless a game is designed for them. No problem either, there are enough alternatives, nobody is forced to play anything. Everyone has his own taste, no question. But in this forum fair play must become a matter of course. It cannot be that a group imagines that every product here is tailored to its needs, and then grumble aggressively until they get it.
When I logged into this forum, I am pretty sure that I have been shown rules that I have to adhere to. One of them was respect for others and their tastes. And said haters often lack this respect. I don't know of a single thread about a game with actual or supposed NTR content where these problems do not exist. And I wonder why the admins hardly intervene. Bans really have to be pronounced. This is an adult forum, not a kindergarten. If people can't pull themself together, they don't belong in this forum. It can't be that difficult.
It is absolutely fine to be against a fetish. But to be thoroughly intolerant of him, to insult their fans and to wage war in the entire forum about it, that is not okay.
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Well, this is another issue. The NTR tag on this forum has a certain definition (it is the MC who is the passive person) which deviates from how NTR is defined from outside of this forum. But the forum definition of course affects how people will talk here.
But yes, it is not a discussion about fairness or hypocrisy - of course in real life it would be severely hypocritical to say "I am allowed to do so but others are not". But in a fantasy - anything goes. I don't have to be fair to others in my power fantasies. (For the record, I dislike it both ways)
Disregarding some of the more extreme cases, where people have complained about NTR even when the girl did nothing more than order a pizza from a male waiter and no relationship whatsoever between the MC has been established in the story, yes, there are quite a few overreacting to actual NTR scenes. One of the questions would be however: was this in line with how the story developed, was this expectable. Because there are a lot of scenes that can severely diminish the enjoyment of a game to a player if it just isn't their thing. A gay sex scene. A futa character. Loli. Rape. Blood and gore. And NTR. Sometimes we do not like the scene but can continue. Sometimes the deal is off. So yes, unhappiness is in order. Complaints only if there was ample reason to believe that NTR would not be included. But in the end the solution would and should be "I don't like this game because of NTR (or the main LI is named like an ex, or whatever other reason), I will stop following it" and not harassing the dev or the people who like the content.
I agree, but that is a two way street. There is also an aggressive "NTR guerilla" who will drop into any thread of a game which does not include it, will never include it according to the dev, and attack that game and its fans. That's also not okay.
But yes, you are correct, many people would be better off realizing "this game isn't for me, let's move on" instead of being entitled to getting it changed to their every whims. Evern worse than NTR guys on either side are incest lovers (I am one myself). The amount of hatred if a game introduces a female family member which is off limits is next level. The amount of requested "relationship changes" in games where it makes no sense, so you can have a sister to fuck, is way smaller but still mindnumbing.
You are correct that "no kink shaming" is a rule on here. However, I don't think it extends to not being allowed to express you do not like a kink. Or to point out that a suggested or requested kink already has been denied. However, I think it extends to the opposite of "no non kink shaming" - and the "NTR guerilla" mentioned above often also gets overboard, arguing that NTR avoiders are inferior because they have to be insecure people and similar. Most are not that way, neither are the NTR haters, you just only notice the idijits because sensible people mostly just ignore threads of games they don't like and thus are invisible there. Also with other kinks where people regularily state that the fact that they have kink X proves that they are more mature and the others just haven't grown up enough to enjoy it.
In the end though I agree that some more strict moderation could help at times, doesn't even have to be specific rules, just general better behaviour. However, when the mods start working on stuff, I am also not always on board. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
I am also not sure how high the percentage of people on this forum apparently not yet adults is, but I am pretty certain it is significant. But that shouldn't be a concern, let's kick 'em out.