Unity Abandoned Neo Free Cities [Alpha v2.0] [Legionary JR-586]

[Legionary JR-586]

Here's a few ideas:
- make it clear when you have a working game with all core mechanics and most secondary mechanics finished
- add more character customization options when you're done with the core parts
- add more font options (I find the current font to be hard to read and annoying; use the original Free Cities font?)
- add a tutorial
- add descrptions for everything on mouse hover
- it might be wise to increase the time between releases so they feel more substantial; once you have a playable version you can increase their frequency again
- Free Cities was text based so it didn't need good graphics but since this game relies on them you'll need to put in some serious work to get some decent looks; normally I would suggest to ignore the graphics completely until you have a working game and then add them once you know exactly what you need because if the gameplay flops then the graphics are worthless

Thank you for the ideas. So:

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- I know. Will do.

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- I must make a bit of everything before i consider the game playable. Customization is indeed a proprity, but at this stage everything is a priority, but i know what you mean.

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- Really?!... I'll address this then.

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- Planned.

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- Also planned.

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- I do this to keep me focused, with a purpose. It helps with other phycological dev aspects as well. And also to keep the "feeling" of a dead project at bay. Right now i do monthly releases (with weekly feedback to supporters), a system i want to maintain trough out the project.

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I know. This i already knew, but I have to set some visual element before the game leaves the demo phase. For the next releases i plan of focusing more on coding and adding options than everything else.

Thank you for the feedback, it's much appreciated.

 

[aspar4gus]

Hi there legionary, first of all i salute you for undertaking this noble project of trying to elevate the game i loved so much to a new height, and i have watched in high anticipation the development of this project and can only hope for the best for you.

I saw that one of the suggestion was for a better font options and i agree with it. Since i have some background in UX/UI design i think at least i can contribute in terms of font suggestion.. i guessed that you're looking for a font that conveys the look&feel of high tech/futurism and recommend this font type:

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It has a lot of font family so u can pick between many thickness option for various uses. It's also from a google fonts website, so any font you used from there has an Open Font License (You can use them freely in your products & projects - print or digital, commercial or otherwise. as long as you don't sell the fonts on their own)

I'll also attach some typographic example i've tried with the font below:

 

[ross smyth]

So far im very interested in this game, I personally won't be downloading it until there is some meat on this game. Although keep going the way you are and im sure in a few short months ill be spending more than a fair few hours dsicovering every little feature.

 

[wenwhop]

Here we go

 

[Idontknowme]

* Good job on trying to remake Free Cities. I wish you the best of luck.
* Love the option to select parts of certain edicts. I sorely issed this in Free Cities.
* Love the idea of defining a beauty/physical standard.
* A few people have already expressed their desire for more paternalistic options. I would like to add my voice to that. I'd also like an option to given an option to give the girls their freedom back. I.e. Confer citizenship on them. In case of high enough devotion in certain roles maybe they could choose to continue in their roles despite being legitimized citizens.
* Like the visual appearance changes for the boobs. May need a turn around button to actually see changes to the butt

* Quite a few typos
* Free Cities had extensive documentation. Some of the policies/ edicts don't make sense without a proper explanation. Maybe add the explanations of what every policy does?
* The blonde hair looks white. Needs more hair length options.

 

[Vreis]

Thank you for the ideas. So:

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- I know. Will do.

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- I must make a bit of everything before i consider the game playable. Customization is indeed a proprity, but at this stage everything is a priority, but i know what you mean.

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- Really?!... I'll address this then.

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- Planned.

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- Also planned.

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- I do this to keep me focused, with a purpose. It helps with other phycological dev aspects as well. And also to keep the "feeling" of a dead project at bay. Right now i do monthly releases (with weekly feedback to supporters), a system i want to maintain trough out the project.

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I know. This i already knew, but I have to set some visual element before the game leaves the demo phase. For the next releases i plan of focusing more on coding and adding options than everything else.

Thank you for the feedback, it's much appreciated.

I know getting so many questions about planned features sucks, but here I go asking again.

I didn't see anything about it by searching, but do you if everything permits it plan on allowing customization of the musculature of slaves as well?
Puny, and buff slaves etc?
Maybe even a fighting pit kind of deal, or bodyguard shindig giving stronk slaves more purpose?

 

[telotelo]

feel nostalgic about the title
this project pique my curiosity and i hope u meet your own expectation about it (nevermind mine).
back then i think we got rendered pack somewhere, but with animation well...
sold (hopefully).

as reminder, oc has no definitive lore after that 3 canon event.
and porting it to unity + upgrade the graphic leave little freedom to develop if u still use that name literally.
i remember at some point in their update the modder naming theirs the 10.8 version (either it typo or intentionally).

what still bug me till now is the penthouse floorplan, the engineering mystery of FC.
there is no limit to its development, you can make another town inside your arcology and other sector didn't affected by it at all.
*really subtle 'penthouse customization that lead to open world' suggestion attempted*

also the fetish scope of FC help broaden my view on lot of obscure thing.
thanks to lot of pervert anon contributor out there i learn to tax my brain to imagine

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i hope you keep the fetish as much as possible, maybe toggle it for the sensitive audience
take a lot of gut to stomach some of that stuff but i remember FC longer than other porn game because of it.

and that tip jar pateron page and content delivery policy might be work to certain degree
its sad that we have to patch thing to see something that should be included in base game. (talk about getting cockblocked)

but overall for your good intention and sake of novelty,

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[SenPC]

Legionary JR-586, Here's my suggestion, and hopefully the only one I will make:

Don't fret yourself with responding to every idea players, and specifically these forums, throw at you. Sure, there's some good advice here, but don't get yourself locked into a feedback loop where you're responding and changing instead of making the game you envision. When you start making someone else's game, you lose your own passion and it becomes a chore. Personally, I would rather see the finished version of your game than the half-finished version of the game you try to make to please everyone else and then give up on out of fatigue and despair. You're doing great, keep on keeping on.

Okay, I lied already, here is another suggestion: Don't fret too much about documentation unless writing explanations about your game is your jam. When your game takes off and develops a loyal following because it's an awesome game, players will WIKI the shit out of it all on their own and all you will have to do is stand back and confirm or refute that they have the mechanics correct.

 

[The3rdOne]

Looking better and better.

 

[kagerx]

Just peaking at the screenies, this suddenly makes me think of a colonization game, like on another planet, like Mars. The Free Cities setup might work well there, an arcology, contained environment, etc. Very much reminds me of playing Surviving Mars.

Big fan of Free Cities, so looking forward to this. Do you plan on incorporating any content from Pregmod? Or is this a straight graphical adaptation? Or somewhere in between perhaps?

 

[Legionary JR-586]

Hi there legionary, first of all i salute you for undertaking this noble project of trying to elevate the game i loved so much to a new height, and i have watched in high anticipation the development of this project and can only hope for the best for you.

Thank you!

I saw that one of the suggestion was for a better font options and i agree with it. Since i have some background in UX/UI design i think at least i can contribute in terms of font suggestion.. i guessed that you're looking for a font that conveys the look&feel of high tech/futurism and recommend this font type:

You must be registered to see the links

It has a lot of font family so u can pick between many thickness option for various uses. It's also from a google fonts website, so any font you used from there has an Open Font License (You can use them freely in your products & projects - print or digital, commercial or otherwise. as long as you don't sell the fonts on their own)

I'll also attach some typographic example i've tried with the font below:

This is awesome feedback! You went beyond a simple suggestion! I will act on them. Thank you! Salve!

So far im very interested in this game, I personally won't be downloading it until there is some meat on this game. Although keep going the way you are and im sure in a few short months ill be spending more than a fair few hours dsicovering every little feature.

Yes and i encourage people not to download the project unless you are curious about it and it's progress. Also made changes to the main post to further express that feeling.
Thank you, and do keep checking the project progress.

* Good job on trying to remake Free Cities. I wish you the best of luck.
* Love the option to select parts of certain edicts. I sorely issed this in Free Cities.
* Love the idea of defining a beauty/physical standard.

Thank you!

* A few people have already expressed their desire for more paternalistic options. I would like to add my voice to that. I'd also like an option to given an option to give the girls their freedom back. I.e. Confer citizenship on them. In case of high enough devotion in certain roles maybe they could choose to continue in their roles despite being legitimized citizens.

Already planned.
And i have also some policies (and events) on the circumstances that that can happen, even granting some symbolic token (like the roman "RUDIS").

* Like the visual appearance changes for the boobs. May need a turn around button to actually see changes to the butt

It's a bug on the camera control part. Already reported. I plan on adding rotation buttons to the bottom of the screen.

* Quite a few typos
* Free Cities had extensive documentation. Some of the policies/ edicts don't make sense without a proper explanation. Maybe add the explanations of what every policy does?
* The blonde hair looks white. Needs more hair length options.

I already have the spot reserved on the UI (dialog box) for descriptions. Need to implement hovering pop-up and write the content.
Thank you for the feedback.

I know getting so many questions about planned features sucks, but here I go asking again.

No they don't, ask away!

I didn't see anything about it by searching, but do you if everything permits it plan on allowing customization of the musculature of slaves as well?
Puny, and buff slaves etc?
Maybe even a fighting pit kind of deal, or bodyguard shindig giving stronk slaves more purpose?

If i understood correctly, you are asking about changing the body to a more "bodybuilder" type (or skinny). If it is i already made that available.
Several "fighting pits" are planned (Pit, Ring, Arena, Stadium, Dungeon), and lethality levels (i think i allready made it into a policie.... must check).
Thank you for the questions.

feel nostalgic about the title
this project pique my curiosity and i hope u meet your own expectation about it (nevermind mine).
back then i think we got rendered pack somewhere, but with animation well...
sold (hopefully).

as reminder, oc has no definitive lore after that 3 canon event.
and porting it to unity + upgrade the graphic leave little freedom to develop if u still use that name literally.
i remember at some point in their update the modder naming theirs the 10.8 version (either it typo or intentionally).

what still bug me till now is the penthouse floorplan, the engineering mystery of FC.
there is no limit to its development, you can make another town inside your arcology and other sector didn't affected by it at all.
*really subtle 'penthouse customization that lead to open world' suggestion attempted*

also the fetish scope of FC help broaden my view on lot of obscure thing.
thanks to lot of pervert anon contributor out there i learn to tax my brain to imagine

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i hope you keep the fetish as much as possible, maybe toggle it for the sensitive audience
take a lot of gut to stomach some of that stuff but i remember FC longer than other porn game because of it.

and that tip jar pateron page and content delivery policy might be work to certain degree
its sad that we have to patch thing to see something that should be included in base game. (talk about getting cockblocked)

but overall for your good intention and sake of novelty,

Thank you for the feedback. What i have for the penthouse, will address that engineering mystery, limiting the things that you can "build" on it. Since the penthouse is technically already built, you are going to have to chose the purpose/relocate of the penthouse space. But don't worry much about it 'cause the penthouse is big.
The fetishes are going to be "maleable". You are going to have a budget which you can use to "buy" certain aspects of some fetishes (now cultures), and/or maximize the ones you prefer not locking you to a full fetish. You chose.

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micromanagement in erotic slg is blocking my fap progress, so don't forget the one hand mode (also watched for now)

 

[Legionary JR-586]

Legionary JR-586, Here's my suggestion, and hopefully the only one I will make:

Don't fret yourself with responding to every idea players, and specifically these forums, throw at you. Sure, there's some good advice here, but don't get yourself locked into a feedback loop where you're responding and changing instead of making the game you envision. When you start making someone else's game, you lose your own passion and it becomes a chore. Personally, I would rather see the finished version of your game than the half-finished version of the game you try to make to please everyone else and then give up on out of fatigue and despair. You're doing great, keep on keeping on.

Okay, I lied already, here is another suggestion: Don't fret too much about documentation unless writing explanations about your game is your jam. When your game takes off and develops a loyal following because it's an awesome game, players will WIKI the shit out of it all on their own and all you will have to do is stand back and confirm or refute that they have the mechanics correct.

Thank you for the suggestions. I sincerely, hope they are not the last.
I try to respond to as many people i can, when i can, and if i can't or there's nothing to add, i, at least try to acknowledge their information.... because you know.... they are my "audience". And i, as a small time indie dev, must earn my "audience", and i, as a consumer, also get i pissed when the big companies (hell, even some indies do this), don't make minimum effort to listen their fans and consumers, that are waiting and wanting to give them money for a better game, so i try not to mimic them.
I do like to look at all the feedback because my analytical and problem solving skills don't cover every aspect of game dev.
But yes, i get your point, and i tell you, worry not.

As for the docs, i don't worry, but i do like world building.

Just peaking at the screenies, this suddenly makes me think of a colonization game, like on another planet, like Mars. The Free Cities setup might work well there, an arcology, contained environment, etc. Very much reminds me of playing Surviving Mars.

Big fan of Free Cities, so looking forward to this. Do you plan on incorporating any content from Pregmod? Or is this a straight graphical adaptation? Or somewhere in between perhaps?

Not every content from pregmod will be added... like bestiality. I know they have the content planned, but i won't be touching it. So this will be something in between with some twists and mechanics of my own. Thank you and do keep an eye out.

 

[ross smyth]

Legionary JR-586


Don't worry i have plenty of free time to keep up with all the updates. Right now im watching a few games such as "A wife and mother" "Project Hot Wife" "Jessica O'Neil's Hard News" and of course ""Neo Free cities""

 

[DrHarnsaft]

I never played the original so sorry if some questions are off.

Slaves will have access to advanced schools. I agree with all of you, and paternalism was also one of my favourite play stiles, but i wanted more. And wanted more, in a true despotic fashion, to be able to affect and influence my citizens as well, and created this advanced eugenics program. The best slaves, the best tech, the best soldiers, the best citizens and.... the best ruler.
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(And before somebody asks, yes, the opposite is also planed. Degradation policies.)

With this, the before mentioned artificial wombs and the in-game option to keep your Arcology as little known as possible, will it be possible to breed and educate leaders loyal to you and set up puppets? Like having a drug cartel or other militants outside of the Arcology that can be used to generate money or harass others without official involvement? With a chance of being discovered.

 

[Legionary JR-586]

With this, the before mentioned artificial wombs and the in-game option to keep your Arcology as little known as possible, will it be possible to breed and educate leaders loyal to you and set up puppets?

No. I don't have this planned. Sorry. But perhaps in future iterations...

Like having a drug cartel or other militants outside of the Arcology that can be used to generate money or harass others without official involvement? With a chance of being discovered.

Now something like this i do have planned.
You'll have your army and agents. Then you can plan certain actions, like raids, assaults, trafficking. Their success and exposure (arcology becomes a target) will depend on, squad size, type of action, chaos on the target zone (if aplicable) and target heat/ target prestige.

Thanks for the question.

 

[MSGTNP]

So I may sound like a idiot here so I apologize but I was wondering for future updates, would it be possible to be more specific with races? Like American? Irish? Japanese? I know you instead opted for racial groups instead which is fine but it be nice for something like a over tip box saying Spanish, irish, french etc are in this racial group.

Also, out of curiosity, how far will religion go? Can we eventually have bat shit insane zealot priests and nuns spreading our conclave's teachings?

 

[Legionary JR-586]

So I may sound like a idiot here so I apologize but I was wondering for future updates, would it be possible to be more specific with races? Like American? Irish? Japanese? I know you instead opted for racial groups instead which is fine but it be nice for something like a over tip box saying Spanish, irish, french etc are in this racial group.

No problemo! Those are nationalities. There are more racial groups and sub-groups but, i thing these choices encompass the majority of the human spicie, and i don't plan on adding any more.

Also, out of curiosity, how far will religion go? Can we eventually have bat shit insane zealot priests and nuns spreading our conclave's teachings?

Basically you want to create a cult. I get it.
So I will access and implementation to mystical/religious dogmas, not necessarily ascetical. Depending of some choices, you can create, monastical order (monk, hermits, nuns, etc..) or military orders (army/squads like crusaders, or, agents/skirmishers like the Assassins).
I'm only planning on fleshing out this more, on mid to late dev phase.

 

[MSGTNP]

No problemo! Those are nationalities. There are more racial groups and sub-groups but, i thing these choices encompass the majority of the human spicie, and i don't plan on adding any more.

Basically you want to create a cult. I get it.
So I will access and implementation to mystical/religious dogmas, not necessarily ascetical. Depending of some choices, you can create, monastical order (monk, hermits, nuns, etc..) or military orders (army/squads like crusaders, or, agents/skirmishers like the Assassins).
I'm only planning on fleshing out this more, on mid to late dev phase.

I remember the original Free Cities giving you the ability to form your own religion/cult and thought It was interesting but you couldn't do much with it.

So far, It turning how to be a good foundation though I am surprised you went with 3D. Was that a personal choice or is it easier to use than going 2D with sprites?

 

[Legionary JR-586]

So far, It turning how to be a good foundation though I am surprised you went with 3D. Was that a personal choice or is it easier to use than going 2D with sprites?

For my skills... yes! For me it's more feasible, even for the animations, the choice of 3D. My 2D "art" is at programmer level

 

[meh65]

I get its barebones, but the fact you can't do ANYTHING. This is literally just a UI and animation test.
Just saying, its kind of frustrating.