VN Ren'Py Abandoned Neuvau [v1.06.01] [Asmodeus_]

[Gamesstar]

coz we would need people to convince @Asmodeus_

I think you can't convince Asmodeus_ to anything. He loves his game so much. I think he won't do anything that doesn't fit his story. It's upto him to decide what is best for his game.

 

[Asmodeus_]

Asmodeus_ , BlasKyau ,
Hear me out:
MC goes out with his LI to a bar, the LI is very giggly and flirty and is always very jubilant and effervescent. a couple of guys come near her and start talking to her. she is as always her giggling, charming, flirty self. some erotic convos happen, not overtly sexual. just by hinting. and the MC starts getting jealous. when they go home, LI convinces him that there was nothing there and that there was nothing to worry about. it was all just fun and joking and such. nothing more. and MC buys it. the next day, one of the guys out from the bar meets them when they are out somewhere. and again, LI acts the same giggling, flirting way. over time, she finds out that the guy is a plumber and then invites him over to fix some plumbing even though the MC doesn't want that to happen. she convinces MC that there's nothing to worry about and this guy seems like a very good plumber. This guy comes over and she is wearing something erotic when she meets the plumber at her house. She flirts with him all the way and over time, one thing leads to another and then they end up having sex. MC finds out and is outraged. she conrvinces him that it was all a mess up and that she was just drunk and such and that there was nothing for him to worry about and such. MC buys it and such. then over time, his LI does similar stuff again and after 3-4 times, MC is pissed. and then MC takes revenge on her and such and shows her who's incharge and puts her in her place and such.
The MC being pissed and taking revenge could be part of Mandom and the rest could be part of Femdom?
WHAT do you think? would it work?

It could work... but on a different game

 

[Asmodeus_]

It isn't a situation that I would like. I prefer that the MC keeps all the LIs and that the landlord stays cuckolded and without a wife and daughter. This wouldn't be a bad scenario for the maledom route.

BlasKyau , get out of my mind! And stop sharing the secrets!

 

[Lucky4U]

I think you can't convince Asmodeus_ to anything. He loves his game so much. I think he won't do anything that doesn't fit his story. It's upto him to decide what is best for his game.

lol, well. ofcourse.

 

[Lucky4U]

lol, well. ofcourse. But I don't think it's "HIM", I think it's "HER". No man could possibly create this game the way she has made it.
She is basically living her fantasy. It's her Passion. I deleted something before in my game review that I wrote before believing that I could maybe try to nudge her but it's futile now.

so here, the part that I deleted before:
now, the 3RD one, this one is going to be a bit inconvenient so bear with me. It seems to me that you have created a game not from a human being's perspective but from a pet dog's perspective. You seem to want to tell your LI to do things and control him completely.
"Doggie Hush", "Doggie Attack", "Good Job Doggie, here is a lollie pop", "You are the toughest doggie in this world, go get em all boy!"{why is he the toughest doggie? coz he is your pet and you control him so he must be. lol}
It almost feels like you want to put a collar with your name on your LI. It's Femdom to the extreme. I doubt that NTR would work in this scenario. The only way NTR could work is if you cheat on your LI and he gets angry at you and fights with you or if you find his sissy boyness to be appalling and you try to humiliate him by hooking up with a real man and he likes getting humiliated and such. Now that would be fun.
But I doubt that you would let that happen. Coz it's your PET Doggie, you would never let him fall in harm's way. and would keep a tight leash on him. He only gets to bark, without a real bite. hahahaha Coz, it's a game, you could potentially also make him a leashed superhero pet Doggie that rules the world.
I wish that weren't the case but I doubt that you would want to tone down that extreme femdom part, coz that's what is your driving force behind this game. the Mandom part is a joke. like I explained above. it's a leashed superhero pet Doggie. hahahaha, lol

But still, Great job on the game. I love the characters and the writing. You are an amazing artist and an amazing writer. and you seem like a nice person. so that's something.
Good luck with your project.

OK.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

The MC being pissed and taking revenge could be part of Mandom and the rest could be part of Femdom? Still NO?

I'm not a big fan of maledom, I'm less of a femdom. Not that I'm incredibly drawn to a game where the MC gets revenge on his girlfriend who cheats on him with the plumber. Like I say, my idea of revenge would be to break up with her and start a relationship with her best friend and/or her worst enemy. In fact, if the ex-girlfriend didn't show up in the game anymore I wouldn't complain.

Actually this game interests me for, as I said, revenge. Not just the revenge itself, I'm interested in seeing how the MC grows up to be able to get it. It's not that I'm really interested in maledom scenes, for me the pleasure is in seeing how the MC advances towards his goal and each one has more self-confidence (obviously, in this game, it leads to maledom, but, as I say, It's not that the scenes themselves interest me beyond the character's growth) I understand and I think there should be those kinds of scenes in this game, but that's not going to make me more interested in them. But I think I've repeated this many times already, and I'm sure it's starting to get redundant.

BlasKyau , get out of my mind! And stop sharing the secrets!

Okay, okay, I'll try not to reveal any more secrets.

 

[Asmodeus_]

lol, well. ofcourse. But I don't think it's "HIM", I think it's "HER". No man could possibly create this game the way she has made it.
She is basically living her fantasy. It's her Passion. I deleted something before in my game review that I wrote before believing that I could maybe try to nudge her but it's futile now.

so here, the part that I deleted before:
now, the 3RD one, this one is going to be a bit inconvenient so bear with me. It seems to me that you have created a game not from a human being's perspective but from a pet dog's perspective. You seem to want to tell your LI to do things and control him completely.
"Doggie Hush", "Doggie Attack", "Good Job Doggie, here is a lollie pop", "You are the toughest doggie in this world, go get em all boy!"{why is he the toughest doggie? coz he is your pet and you control him so he must be. lol}
It almost feels like you want to put a collar with your name on your LI. It's Femdom to the extreme. I doubt that NTR would work in this scenario. The only way NTR could work is if you cheat on your LI and he gets angry at you and fights with you or if you find his sissy boyness to be appalling and you try to humiliate him by hooking up with a real man and he likes getting humiliated and such. Now that would be fun.
But I doubt that you would let that happen. Coz it's your PET Doggie, you would never let him fall in harm's way. and would keep a tight leash on him. He only gets to bark, without a real bite. hahahaha Coz, it's a game, you could potentially also make him a leashed superhero pet Doggie that rules the world.
I wish that weren't the case but I doubt that you would want to tone down that extreme femdom part, coz that's what is your driving force behind this game. the Mandom part is a joke. like I explained above. it's a leashed superhero pet Doggie. hahahaha, lol

But still, Great job on the game. I love the characters and the writing. You are an amazing artist and an amazing writer. and you seem like a nice person. so that's something.
Good luck with your project.

Heh... How do I say that politely...

And thank you for reposting the deleted part; I was searching to comment on that! I read it fast the first time and wanted to spend more time reading this!

I'm still struggling to get your point about the "pet dog's perspective". Are you referring to the MC? Are you referring to the LI? I'm so confused!

If you have the time, please try to explain that part to me because it seems that you have a perspective I'm not aware of!

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Heh... How do I say that politely... View attachment 1894064

And thank you for reposting the deleted part; I was searching to comment on that! I read it fast the first time and wanted to spend more time reading this!

I'm still struggling to get your point about the "pet dog's perspective". Are you referring to the MC? Are you referring to the LI? I'm so confused!

If you have the time, please try to explain that part to me because it seems that you have a perspective I'm not aware of!

I seemed to understand that Lucky4U sees things from the LIs' perspective and not from the MC's, which makes the conversation a bit confusing. Because when he talks about the MC he refers to him as LI, and when he talks about the LIs he refers to them as "you".

 

[Asmodeus_]

Thank you for taking the time to share! I really appreciate it!

Well, I can understand your point of view, but I never said this is a Maledom game. I said that it was a Femdom themed game. It has a very shy MC (with some kind of issue, not revealed) and he's not that confident with the girls.

The dom route means that the MC is trying to become more dominant. It doesn't mean that you instantly become a super chad


(super chad for reference)

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Hmm, I disagree about the femdom needing an extra man. It's not a competition. You can absolutely have a healthy femdom relationship in a couple (man and woman, woman and woman, trans and woman etc.). No need for any third parties in the couple to be a successful femdom relationship.

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Well, in terms of your comments about the storyline... Heh, I know it's not your vanilla storyline

But as a writer, I don't like writing "vanilla" stories. They don't excite me at all as a player/reader and much more so as a writer. So I avoid writing them. I like writing complex, "fucked-up" stories that create ethical dilemmas, that don't usually have a correct solution, while still trying to make them sexy and exciting. Usually, I try to replicate real life. Actual real life scenarios, by people that have shared their personal stories, are even more fucked up!

To return to my point, this means that my target audience is kind of "advanced". If a young player comes along that hasn't seen a lot of games/porn and plays the games I've written (or reads some of my stories), they surely gonna be weirded out. They need to know the tropes of porn/games to appreciate it when I'm avoiding them. They need to already have experienced the vanilla scenarios in order to be excited by the more complicated ones I write.

To explain with a (stupid) example; if you've never seen a superhero movie in the last 10 years, you can't jump in to see the "Avengers: Endgame". You won't know what the fuck is going on there.

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Now in terms of the MC, I can understand this. If you can't identify with him, then that's unfortunate. Because much of his choices and way of thinking won't make any sense to you. There's no way to fix this from my side.

 

[Zavijava_]

Just to chime in: I generally don't go for cheating in games in either direction. I've avoided Mrs Jones so far for the same reason I kind of soured on Linda from Milfy City, the whole cheating angle just didn't do it for me.

Femdom for me is all about the power dynamic between the MC and the ladies, rather than this supposed competition with other guys, which some guys apparently care about. I know it's a big part of the fetish for some, but I hope there's a femdom route that avoids that.

Just my 2 cents, and as always I'm intrigued to see where the story leads!

 

[Asmodeus_]

Just to chime in: I generally don't go for cheating in games in either direction. I've avoided Mrs Jones so far for the same reason I kind of soured on Linda from Milfy City, the whole cheating angle just didn't do it for me.

Femdom for me is all about the power dynamic between the MC and the ladies, rather than this supposed competition with other guys, which some guys apparently care about. I know it's a big part of the fetish for some, but I hope there's a femdom route that avoids that.

Just my 2 cents, and as always I'm intrigued to see where the story leads!

Thank you for sharing Zavijava_ !

My vision with her character is to either get in a relationship with her, or become her friend (i'm not sure if this will be included), or keep your distance.

And to confirm, the "Mrs Jones" path is entirely separate from the rest of the story. It doesn't affect the femdom path whatever you choose to do with her.

On the other hand, the potential relationship with Mrs Jones will affect the potential relationship with Tina (her daughter). But I think that's obvious and should be expected.

 

[Deleted member 4887608]

As mentioned clearly in the OP that it's a femdom themed although I feel at few instance Asmodeus held himself maybe to keep the femdom bit more light as in the reward ofc sexual is too easy for the MC you gotta boost those depravity number before you let MC have the reward.
Coming to the characters I think any good female dominatrix need to look bit cold and calculating, your avg cute models doesn't cut it. While it's true to some characters of this game but they still look bit friendly which is in contrast to the requirement. If I may give the example of some other game it would be the milf character from Estate dominate or even Marge from MMC, both model nails the dominatrix look which is exact opposite to the cute and friendly looking characters from Karlsson's gambit it doesn't do justice to the story it looks forced and bland.
Since Asmodeus is also the writer of MMC and the boss roleplay with zip tie was clearly my fav scene I can say that my man knows how to do it just right without overdoing or undercutting anything.

 

[gregers]

Coming to the characters I think any good female dominatrix need to look bit cold and calculating, your avg cute models doesn't cut it. While it's true to some characters of this game but they still look bit friendly which is in contrast to the requirement. If I may give the example of some other game it would be the milf character from Estate dominate or even Marge from MMC, both model nails the dominatrix look which is exact opposite to the cute and friendly looking characters from Karlsson's gambit it doesn't do justice to the story it looks forced and bland.

Horses for courses I think. I haven't played Estate: Dominate since it's very earliest versions, but as I remember, the mother figure there is designed around the stereotypical haughty aristocrat vibe common in traditional femdom scenarios.

Karlsson's Gambit has a lot of different characters with different styles, but I think part of the strength of Olivia (the female MC) as a domme is how she at first glance looks like the cute girl-next-door, making her cruelty and sadism more startling and affecting. Sadly, one sees very little of that side of her when playing Kane (the male MC) as dominant as well, but that's a different matter.

In a game with several dominant women such as this, it seems like it'd only be a good thing to have a variety of character types.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Thank you for sharing Zavijava_ !

My vision with her character is to either get in a relationship with her, or become her friend (i'm not sure if this will be included), or keep your distance.

And to confirm, the "Mrs Jones" path is entirely separate from the rest of the story. It doesn't affect the femdom path whatever you choose to do with her.

On the other hand, the potential relationship with Mrs Jones will affect the potential relationship with Tina (her daughter). But I think that's obvious and should be expected.

If I have to choose between the two, and neither is femdom, then I would choose the daughter (but if I haven't to choose better). In case one of them has femdom, that will be the one I discard, unless femdom can be avoided. If the two of them only have a femdom route, then I will proceed to not have a relationship with either of them.

 

[Kukipett]

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Why don't you write your own VN instead of trying to make the dev change it for your own taste !
If you are a creative man and got talent you could end up with a nice story and even get money out of it.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Why don't you write your own VN instead of trying to make the dev change it for your own taste !
If you are a creative man and got talent you could end up with a nice story and even get money out of it.

I think the image is for the post made by Lucky4U and not for the game. Post that explains a situation that has nothing to do with the game, by the way.

 

[Kukipett]

I think the image is for the post made by Lucky4U and not for the game. Post that explains a situation that has nothing to do with the game, by the way.

Yes i know, it must have been a bug or a bad manipulation because i intended to reply to that post and not to that image, sorry!

 

[Lucky4U]

I think the image is for the post made by Lucky4U and not for the game. Post that explains a situation that has nothing to do with the game, by the way.

Yes i know, it must have been a bug or a bad manipulation because i intended to reply to that post and not to that image, sorry!

Hmm, Interesting Idea. I could try potentially create one I guess. I am already a software developer. know some photoshop and such. I could figure things out I guess but what I would still lack would be writing. I don't think that I am all that good at writing. Would be a loot of grind though. Does anyone know how much time do these devs spend on their games? to make lets say a 10 pics scene with writing content? Also, what does VN mean?

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Hmm, Interesting Idea. I could try potentially create one I guess. I am already a software developer. know some photoshop and such. I could figure things out I guess but what I would still lack would be writing. I don't think that I am all that good at writing. Would be a loot of grind though. Does anyone know how much time do these devs spend on their games? to make lets say a 10 pics scene with writing content? Also, what does VN mean?

VN = Visual Novel.

 

[Lucky4U]

VN = Visual Novel.

Naa, I shouldn't try I think coz I get obsessed with shit. lol, I would probably end up spending years on it and will end up turning my life upside down. Probably not a healthy hobby for me. so gonna pass.