VN Ren'Py New Beginnings in Japan [Ch. 2 v.0.6.1] [Shikharsfree]

[SexyShelly]

It's not complaining, I'm trying to give constructive criticism to help the game. I'm not the only one who thinks that the mother looks too young, one of the reviews here with more likes, written by lordrango, says the same:

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You can't compare other games characters with other games, I mean, many devs purchase pre made models made by other people, which is why many many games have the same looking characters a lot of the time, how many games have the same model as Kate from Glamour or the same model from Bright Past?

For the protag in Free Pass, even that model has been bought from someone that made her, also, I have played that, but for what I recall from top of my head as its been a while, she is in her early 40s, but I will have to double check on that

This dev, hired real models to create his characters, made them from scratch so they are not the same as other games, in real life, Asian women do look 10 years younger than they actually are that is why most western men go to Asia to find a wife, they look young (and for other reasons I guess)

You base your criticism based on one review because it matches your views, okay, that's respectful that you want to help the dev and his team, but at the end of the day, your getting to play a free game where real people that like the game are helping to fund it for you to play it for free, if you supported the game you will know,

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[Shikharisfree]

Yeah, that would be fine, as an option inside the game.

The scenes in the train aren't that relevant anyway, at the end this is a porn game, I would say no many people would have problems with that.

But regarding the mother, now that you mention Daddario, in her most recent TV series she looks clearly older than your character, Daddario looks like a woman, yours like a girl:

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And even with that, I would say nobody would hire Daddario as the mother of a 18 years old, because she still looks too young, that's my point.

Free Pass is another AVN that has an asian woman, I guess in her 30's too, as the mother of a 18 years old girl as your game, and she looks clearly older than your character and still she looks young and very well.

But the main problem is that kiara looks the same age as the mother.

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If you are going to keep her as she is right now, the alternative would be telling inside the story through the dialogue of other characters that she looks too young for her age and make some comments about asian girls looking younger than the rest of the world, etc. I advise doing that from the beginning, so, you don't lose players because of that.

This is from the same post you took alex dadd picture of - >




Her without any makeup or cosmetics




The picture you refered is actually a role from a tv series she's playing in which she plays a adult mayor.

Hence the look.



See you need to give me something medically acclaimed too , not just "because generally , because we feel so , most guys " . I showed you a medical report from ontario ao , asian women actually look 10 years younger than their age. The data is there.


American ones , start aging rapidly after 30 unless mixed or exceptional cases.


Now let me tell you something even more accurate . Kiara's model / face is from a real person actually. She obv was compensated for it and has allowed us to do it.

I can dm you her real pictures we used for the face scan , can't send em here for obvious reasons. But her age is actually 20 irl. ( happy to give you IG as well)


So yeah , perception due to some occurances and the overall reality is very different.


Women age differently , whoever might say whatever on the internet. There is data to prove otherwise.

Now what i can do is make her face a little more wider for skull structure i guess as you showed in Free pass , but asians do not show aging signs such as wrinkles or eye or stress marks above , or head lines until very late.

Stephen chow was 40 in shaolin soccer roughly , now look at him in that picture and look at yourself really i'd say. Can you say you'd look that way at 40?

That's all




Mc only patch is in works already , I'll get that included in once 0.5 starts.

Also the one thing i have to say is , If i get supports or don't get support based on things like these then i'd rather not have those supporters at all. It's not something that ruins the story in anyway or affects the player. As for the negative reviews. Faishon business is one of the best games period in fem protag and its 3.6 here.

Can't please everyone in the world , It's quite simple really



Also I will adjust charcter and scenes for steam release obv.

 

[Shikharisfree]

0.4.3 will be public soon , meanwhile here is something kiara gets to choose to wear in 0.4.4!

If you guys have paid attention to the title screen of the game , there's a little reference

 

[Shikharisfree]

Chapter 2 V. 0.4.3 is public , enjoy new and old players alike ~

 

[Morho]

Chapter 2 V. 0.4.3 is public , enjoy new and old players alike ~

lets hope that it will became good as fassion busines

 

[Ragnar]

For a game that takes place in Japan the lack of ugly bastards is concerning.

 

[Shikharisfree]

For a game that takes place in Japan the lack of ugly bastards is concerning.

Chikan guy comin in 0.5 , kek. ( Optional obv)

 

[Habawa]

10.5GB? bruh how much content is in here

 

[Shikharisfree]

10.5GB? bruh how much content is in here

Compressed is your friend in case download size issues! , speaking of content tho. Welp plenty of story and plenty of tiddies an asses.

 

[Jokr_]

Is this game that one where there's a lot of things going on

 

[Shikharisfree]

Is this game that one where there's a lot of things going on

Shortened and rewrote script to make sure most focus is on mc and side character segments are merely loading screen or important developments

Or.. well sex.

 

[xXwankerXx]

It's not complaining, I'm trying to give constructive criticism to help the game. I'm not the only one who thinks that the mother looks too young, one of the reviews here with more likes, written by @lordrango

Constructive criticism about something as trivial as that in a game where women, usually the FMC, get raped, molested, sexually harassed and 'seduced' by the (usually) ugliest and creepiest (old) mofos ever, but a woman not looking old enough to show her age is your biggest complaint about the game ?? C'mon man, constructive criticism is the last thing I'd call something like this statement.

I really don't see what you're complaining about. She looks like an Asian woman whose daughter can be an adult to me.

I second this. The ppl who claim some women don't look their age, old wrinkled, or fuck knows what else, enough need to get out more and see that there's women (a whole lot of them, especially the rich or slutty ones) obsessed with the way they look and do all kinds of shit to look younger and attractive. A healthy lifestyle is a good argument I'd use to defend what I said, coz you can't be stuffing yourself with all kinds of junk food and other unhealthy shit like that and still want to look young or fit, but fact is, women waay younger than their actual age do really exist IRL. I honestly fail to understand what the big deal is with this trivial thing, but to each their own.

Many people have shown you pictures of mature Asian women in real life, yet ignore those and compare the mother to non-Asian women.

Since the model already looks like a mature Asian women by most standards, I don't expect the dev will turn her into a woman in her 60s to suit your aesthetics.

Exactly. I never understood why some ppl find a woman's body not being 'realistic' enough in a porn game, where logic is thrown out the window and all kinds of stupid or ridiculous shit happens like it was something normal. IIRC, Lana, FMC's bestie, gets sexually harassed and raped, the usual sugarcoated rape in this type of games but STILL rape, by a desperate idiot for reasons, and our peeps here bitch about a woman not being old and wrinkled enough ?? I'm kinda curious to know if they have a real mom fetish or some shit, coz this is weird and ridiculous at the same time, and who the fuck prefers older women (40+ yo) to younger, more attractive ones ??

 

[JaszMan]

what does the corruption entail?. I mean I always confused it with Mind Control & Cheating. Is it personality manipulation?.

 

[cyberSpacePirat]

Shortened and rewrote script to make sure most focus is on mc and side character segments are merely loading screen or important developments

Or.. well sex.

Don't do that.

There is and old saying:
The one who tried to please them all, ended up pleasing no one

Everyone like (or don't like) different things. Some don't like mother-son, and you already cut that part of a story. But now some will come with idea that you should cut the lesbian story or put some yakuza or samurai characters (if the story is in Japan that it must have them). Or to put gay or god forbite futa story or some other weird shit. And at the end even you will not be happy with the story (because you cut some very good staff).
The point is that you already have very good story and you should tell it the way you feel is right.

ashitanojoe is right about marketing, maybe about Steam platform. Most people trust paying only with PayPal, so Steam is more trustworthy.
I'm not sure that he is right about splitting the story in two parts, one with only Kiara and one full story. Problem with corruption story is that most people care only for MC. So if you split, 95% (or even 99%) will play only Kiara part, and that part will have plot holes, because some events are triggered by side characters (and you won't see that in Kiara only story). Patrons will not be satisfied with full story, because when they pay they will expect more content on Kiara (preferably more sexy scene). But they will end up with side characters that they don't care about, because they have not been long enough in Kiara only version.
He mentioned Innocent or money as good example. That is very good story, but it is also great example where side characters are irritating as fuck.
Instead of cutting the story, maybe you should start releasing one update a month. That update will be big enough to contain the side characters story (that is important to main story) but will also have enough content on Kiara (especially sexy content) that will make everyone happy.
About Kiara and Mia. You are right that Asian women look younger that Western. But the problem is that Mia is looking one or two years younger than she should. And Kiara is looking year or two older than she should. And you lose 20 years gap between them, now it looks like 15 years, and not 20 years, difference between them. But for me that is not the problem.

Updates are already coming like bullet train, I don't remember other game where updates are coming this fast. Try working on marketing, maybe try to fix grammar errors and price errors (in cosplay section) and everything will be fine.

 

[ashitanojoe]

Don't do that.

There is and old saying:
The one who tried to please them all, ended up pleasing no one

Everyone like (or don't like) different things. Some don't like mother-son, and you already cut that part of a story. But now some will come with idea that you should cut the lesbian story or put some yakuza or samurai characters (if the story is in Japan that it must have them). Or to put gay or god forbite futa story or some other weird shit. And at the end even you will not be happy with the story (because you cut some very good staff).
The point is that you already have very good story and you should tell it the way you feel is right.

ashitanojoe is right about marketing, maybe about Steam platform. Most people trust paying only with PayPal, so Steam is more trustworthy.
I'm not sure that he is right about splitting the story in two parts, one with only Kiara and one full story. Problem with corruption story is that most people care only for MC. So if you split, 95% (or even 99%) will play only Kiara part, and that part will have plot holes, because some events are triggered by side characters (and you won't see that in Kiara only story). Patrons will not be satisfied with full story, because when they pay they will expect more content on Kiara (preferably more sexy scene). But they will end up with side characters that they don't care about, because they have not been long enough in Kiara only version.
He mentioned Innocent or money as good example. That is very good story, but it is also great example where side characters are irritating as fuck.
Instead of cutting the story, maybe you should start releasing one update a month. That update will be big enough to contain the side characters story (that is important to main story) but will also have enough content on Kiara (especially sexy content) that will make everyone happy.
About Kiara and Mia. You are right that Asian women look younger that Western. But the problem is that Mia is looking one or two years younger than she should. And Kiara is looking year or two older than she should. And you lose 20 years gap between them, now it looks like 15 years, and not 20 years, difference between them. But for me that is not the problem.

Updates are already coming like bullet train, I don't remember other game where updates are coming this fast. Try working on marketing, maybe try to fix grammar errors and price errors (in cosplay section) and everything will be fine.

He was already cutting side stories before my proposal, look at the poll above this thread. I'm recommending two versions, there are some games here that makes a question at the start of the game like: Do you want to see the NTR content? And the player choose freely yes or no. Others ask: Do you want to skip the intro? yes or no. I'm suggesting doing something similar: Do you want to play the MC single storyline (with bits of side stories) or all the full side stories included as a TV series?

Actually, I suggested not reducing or cutting the side stories.

In my opinion, you should not eliminate or reduce the side stories, that could create frustration in the writers, just include them in one different version of the game or deliver them separately, as I wrote before.

Regarding the mother being too young, I also said that if the dev keeps her as she is right now, he could make that curiosity part of the dialogues. I had a female friend whose mother is very young and she said to me that many times people say to them that they look like sisters. When things like this happen, it's not unusual receiving comments like those, that could be part of the game.

 

[cyberSpacePirat]

He was already cutting side stories before my proposal, look at the poll above this thread. I'm recommending two versions, there are some games here that makes a question at the start of the game like: Do you want to see the NTR content? And the player choose freely yes or no. Others ask: Do you want to skip the intro? yes or no. I'm suggesting doing something similar: Do you want to play the MC single storyline (with bits of side stories) or all the full side stories included as a TV series?

Actually, I suggested not reducing or cutting the side stories.

I did not said that you are responsible for cutting the story, and I know that there was pool, before your comment, about eliminating some characters. Actually I think that he mentioned that some Patron asked that that part (mother-son incest) should be removed

I just suggested that he should stop cutting the story, because at the end nobody will be fully satisfied.

 

[Madarahyuuga]

When will the story of João and Veronica begin? I'm really looking forward to this story especially if by some chance John manages to get Veronica to submit to him without any blackmail, at least after a while

 

[yilkin]

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[SexyShelly]

He was already cutting side stories before my proposal, look at the poll above this thread. I'm recommending two versions, there are some games here that makes a question at the start of the game like: Do you want to see the NTR content? And the player choose freely yes or no. Others ask: Do you want to skip the intro? yes or no. I'm suggesting doing something similar: Do you want to play the MC single storyline (with bits of side stories) or all the full side stories included as a TV series?

Actually, I suggested not reducing or cutting the side stories.



Regarding the mother being too young, I also said that if the dev keeps her as she is right now, he could make that curiosity part of the dialogues. I had a female friend whose mother is very young and she said to me that many times people say to them that they look like sisters. When things like this happen, it's not unusual receiving comments like those, that could be part of the game.

The Dev been shorting the side story because he is trying to please every player type including the ones that are moaning about the side content, which is unfair for him and the original story that his team wanted to tell, there is a really good and very well written story within this game, a story that would make a prefect movie (without the porn) and has beautiful renders, all credit goes to the team making it as they are all talented

I support the dev and his team and this game to how he originally wanted the game to be on the script that is written for the full game, the side content does not bother me and other patreons that are supporting the game

Day 1 is about getting Kiera safe in Japan away from her father that forced Kiera to be the way she is, From day 2 it's about protecting Kiera and keeping her in Japan and you are able to skip the side content, so players already have a choice to see it or skip it already, from day 3 it's all about Kiera rebuilding her life and memories and on day 4 the recent last patreon update has been all about Kiera and her past and she starts to remember things and is really very well written as if you have a heart, it even made me tear up

Some players want sex and rape from the start, those players are the ones moaning and giving the dev death threats, that should not be happening, this is not like the dev for A Wife & Mother game or a few other games where the dev takes your money and takes a few months just to make one update, there are real people including me that help fund the game to be made so it has a future because we like the game and story and the dev vision for the game

Don't do that.

There is and old saying:
The one who tried to please them all, ended up pleasing no one

Everyone like (or don't like) different things. Some don't like mother-son, and you already cut that part of a story. But now some will come with idea that you should cut the lesbian story or put some yakuza or samurai characters (if the story is in Japan that it must have them). Or to put gay or god forbite futa story or some other weird shit. And at the end even you will not be happy with the story (because you cut some very good staff).
The point is that you already have very good story and you should tell it the way you feel is right.

ashitanojoe is right about marketing, maybe about Steam platform. Most people trust paying only with PayPal, so Steam is more trustworthy.
I'm not sure that he is right about splitting the story in two parts, one with only Kiara and one full story. Problem with corruption story is that most people care only for MC. So if you split, 95% (or even 99%) will play only Kiara part, and that part will have plot holes, because some events are triggered by side characters (and you won't see that in Kiara only story). Patrons will not be satisfied with full story, because when they pay they will expect more content on Kiara (preferably more sexy scene). But they will end up with side characters that they don't care about, because they have not been long enough in Kiara only version.
He mentioned Innocent or money as good example. That is very good story, but it is also great example where side characters are irritating as fuck.
Instead of cutting the story, maybe you should start releasing one update a month. That update will be big enough to contain the side characters story (that is important to main story) but will also have enough content on Kiara (especially sexy content) that will make everyone happy.
About Kiara and Mia. You are right that Asian women look younger that Western. But the problem is that Mia is looking one or two years younger than she should. And Kiara is looking year or two older than she should. And you lose 20 years gap between them, now it looks like 15 years, and not 20 years, difference between them. But for me that is not the problem.

Updates are already coming like bullet train, I don't remember other game where updates are coming this fast. Try working on marketing, maybe try to fix grammar errors and price errors (in cosplay section) and everything will be fine.

Patrons will not be satisfied with full story, because when they pay they will expect more content on Kiara (preferably more sexy scene)

That is not actually true, as a patreon myself and has been for 4 months, I and others patreons support the game because of the full story, Kiera, her family, and the side content, all makes the story, it's the story and script that got me to support this game in the first place and will support it till the end

 

[Dyhart]

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