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m4dsk1llz

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Was about to do a bunch of renders of Beatrice, when I saw a new update to DAZ Studio. So like an idiot, I upgraded to 4.20 of DAZ, made sure my nVidia driver is current and viola, no renders! So what we have is that nVidia made a change to how Thin Film is rendered and Beatrice uses OOT Charlene Hair. Charlene hair renders black no matter what color is chosen. Not all OOT hair has this issue abut a lot do, also some materials that use black opacity maps have issues. She will have to wait while I check for a fix or work on other characters that still work.

Also Ghost Lights are broken and probably won't be fixed as DAZ always thought that Ghost Lights should never have been a thing. We are all going to have to learn to work with mesh lights only.

And no, I am not going back to DAZ 4.16, I'll just wait until there is a fix for the iRay rendering changes or PA's upgrade their assets.
 

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Was about to do a bunch of renders of Beatrice, when I saw a new update to DAZ Studio. So like an idiot, I upgraded to 4.20 of DAZ, made sure my nVidia driver is current and viola, no renders! So what we have is that nVidia made a change to how Thin Film is rendered and Beatrice uses OOT Charlene Hair. Charlene hair renders black no matter what color is chosen. Not all OOT hair has this issue abut a lot do, also some materials that use black opacity maps have issues. She will have to wait while I check for a fix or work on other characters that still work.

Also Ghost Lights are broken and probably won't be fixed as DAZ always thought that Ghost Lights should never have been a thing. We are all going to have to learn to work with mesh lights only.

And no, I am not going back to DAZ 4.16, I'll just wait until there is a fix for the iRay rendering changes or PA's upgrade their assets.
I read about the reports of Daz problems so I will wait till until they are sorted.
 

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I started having problems with Daz 4.16 just rendering black, but when I got 4.20 I was sorted and able to render again.
 

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I started having problems with Daz 4.16 just rendering black, but when I got 4.20 I was sorted and able to render again.
Just rendering black could mean that you have too much in your scene one way past that is to use the gpu+cpu together or delete assets from the scene
 

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Just rendering black could mean that you have too much in your scene one way past that is to use the gpu+cpu together or delete assets from the scene
It would not even render a couple of primitive shapes just black, really weird because it was fine up until a couple of weeks ago. Still, I am back rendering in my own little world so I am happy. thanks for replying.
 
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It would not even render a couple of primitive shapes just black, really weird because it was fine up until a couple of weeks ago. Still, I am back rendering in my own little world so I am happy. thanks for replying.
I am doing a render myself just now with water effect,so this could be fun or a nightmare
 

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Charlotte uses OOT Lary Hair and it has issues with 4.20 also rendering black no matter the color.
Darlene uses OOT Neko Hair, same results.
Denise uses OOT Super Messy Updo, same results.
 

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Was about to do a bunch of renders of Beatrice, when I saw a new update to DAZ Studio. So like an idiot, I upgraded to 4.20 of DAZ, made sure my nVidia driver is current and viola, no renders! So what we have is that nVidia made a change to how Thin Film is rendered and Beatrice uses OOT Charlene Hair. Charlene hair renders black no matter what color is chosen. Not all OOT hair has this issue abut a lot do, also some materials that use black opacity maps have issues. She will have to wait while I check for a fix or work on other characters that still work.

Also Ghost Lights are broken and probably won't be fixed as DAZ always thought that Ghost Lights should never have been a thing. We are all going to have to learn to work with mesh lights only.

And no, I am not going back to DAZ 4.16, I'll just wait until there is a fix for the iRay rendering changes or PA's upgrade their assets.
Well, I was about to upgrade my Daz, but thank you! You saved me a lot of trouble.
 
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m4dsk1llz

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MrPerson28475 Are you using the OOT Hairblending shader or Iray Uber? I am finding that the Iray Uber seems to work like 99% of the time, but the OOT is broken. Unfortunately some of OOT's older hair styles look much better with the OOT Shader in place of the Uber shader.

There seems to be a lot of other issues to, like the denoiser not working.
 

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MrPerson28475 Are you using the OOT Hairblending shader or Iray Uber? I am finding that the Iray Uber seems to work like 99% of the time, but the OOT is broken. Unfortunately some of OOT's older hair styles look much better with the OOT Shader in place of the Uber shader.

There seems to be a lot of other issues to, like the denoiser not working.
I just use what came with the hair product download. I did not use either of the hairblending presets that come with it. I have not used any other shaders to my knowledge unless they are part of the daz default nvidia Iray settings.
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This is from my "Favorite Milfs" Thread and Daz 4.16 would not touch it for rendering. It would just crash to the desktop all the time. Daz 4.20, no problems.
A Few of my Favorite Milfs Shopping.jpg
 
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m4dsk1llz

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Okay I will try the same, but not Charlotte, not my favorite character.
And for some reason I am not alone, a lot of messages on the DAZ forums about OOT stuff not rendering.
 

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Quick and unimportant render to see what still works in 4.20
Emma-Lauren_4_20_F95.png
Realized after I was into the render that Emma while using OOT Sleek Ponytail, it is for G3 so it doesn't use the same Hairblending shader the newer stuff does.
 

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m4dsk1llz This is my result.


Here I selected "Blue" hair from OOTLary hair.
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Here is my render result with a mesh light above.
Charlotte 3.jpg

I honestly do not know why you can not seem to get the result you want.
 
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m4dsk1llz

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Honestly I am stumped. I am in the process of downloading the actual install file (not the upgrade) and plan to reinstall it. Also I will experiment with added the latest OOT hair after everything else so that it is the most current.
 
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