VN Ren'Py Abandoned Normal Trade Relations [v0.35] [Lostworks]

[Drexelhand]

I am unfamiliar with Sex/Life so think I will refrain from downloading until I get a clear picture of what direction you're taking the MC. But... you hate Vronsky more than that piece of subhuman shit "Humbert" in Lolita? That's fucked

See, it's a different kind of hate. With Humbert, I'd just shoot the guy and be done with it. He's not even worth hating. With Vronsky, the man actively goes out of his way to pursue a married woman, alienate her from her son, then keep her isolated and when she accepts that, doesn't even give her the love she desperately craves as in, if I must be isolated for loving you, then you do it too in solidarity. He can't even do that. He's such a spoiled piece of shit. It's always about what he wants and that's what drives Anna to suicide.

 

[Happyslappy169]

Since this is a NTR game, can I breakup with my cheating girlfriend or wife?

 

[Drexelhand]

It's always like that, anyway, it looks like an interesting game

Thanks brother, hopefully we'll be able to keep your interest.

 

[Drexelhand]

Since this is a NTR game, can I breakup with my cheating girlfriend or wife?

Maybe eventually. One thing that I've seen which plagues developers is creating alternate routes like that. The story moves at such an incremental pace since the routes all need to be updated. If I can do it in a fashion where the branch can follow a similar story to the other routes, then yes. But right now, I haven't thought that far ahead.

 

[Happyslappy169]

Maybe eventually. One thing that I've seen which plagues developers is creating alternate routes like that. The story moves at such an incremental pace since the routes all need to be updates. If I can do it in a fashion where the branch can follow a similar story to the other routes, then yes. But right now, I haven't thought that far ahead.

Thank you for answering my question.

 

[Drexelhand]

Thank you for answering my question.

No worries, if there's one thing I don't want to be, it's like Eromersive.

 

[loikl]

The plot is very clear about where the content is going, I thank the dev for making it clear from the beginning, good luck.

 

[hysepReC]

Why is the MC's cock so small? Let me guess, the ex-fiancée has 3-4 times the size and is only dating the friend to get close to the wife again. Lol. And the devs haven't even decided if she's already cheating? That's kind of important to fuckin' know.

 

[Drexelhand]

Why is the MC's cock so small?

He was in the pool!

But in all seriousness, he's not that small. He's average, he's just small while flaccid.

Let me guess, the ex-fiancée has 3-4 times the size and is only dating the friend to get close to the wife again. Lol.

Maybe...

And the devs haven't even decided if she's already cheating? That's kind of important to fuckin' know.

To clarify upon that, I do have the general story mapped out and at this point in time, no, she is not cheating. But say as I'm writing the next part, it makes more sense for her to have already been cheating, then I'll change the story to that because that makes the story better. As of this point, though, no she is not cheating.

I'm aiming to make the game more complex than just "Big cocked ex wants to bang the protagonist's girl again". Those games are good, I love Summer of Love, but that's not what I'm going for. I hope that clears things up for you?

 

[Drexelhand]

The plot is very clear about where the content is going, I thank the dev for making it clear from the beginning, good luck.

Hey man, so far it's avoided all the "Is NTR optional" questions. That being said, I still do recommend you give it a try. I'm not going for the traditional netorare thing, I do want to make it more complex like in Anna Karenina or Sex/Life.

 

[yilkin]

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[Larry2000]

He was in the pool!

But in all seriousness, he's not that small. He's average, he's just small while flaccid.



Maybe...



To clarify upon that, I do have the general story mapped out and at this point in time, no, she is not cheating. But say as I'm writing the next part, it makes more sense for her to have already been cheating, then I'll change the story to that because that makes the story better. As of this point, though, no she is not cheating.

I'm aiming to make the game more complex than just "Big cocked ex wants to bang the protagonist's girl again". Those games are good, I love Summer of Love, but that's not what I'm going for. I hope that clears things up for you?

Hey man, so far it's avoided all the "Is NTR optional" questions. That being said, I still do recommend you give it a try. I'm not going for the traditional netorare thing, I do want to make it more complex like in Anna Karenina or Sex/Life.

This has told me all I need to know. I know there will be people that love your game and from experience, I know the writing process to be a good and telling your story is important and I stand by that. All that said, there isn't a single thing about a cheating girlfriend that I like.

I don't like the thrill of "is it true, is it not true?" nor do I like that you are confirming that the Ex/antagonist already has the upper hand on the MC without any effort (dickwise) nor do I trust that you still want Harem game fans to still try your game instead of letting them leave.

You said this is not a typical En Tee Argh story, but just few points above show that it's pretty typical. MC cock small, not only that, but smaller than the antagonist, the girlfriend is cheating (maybe not, you haven't decided yet) and all this happens no matter the user input. It sounds pretty typical to me.

To be more fair to you, I appreciate that you have all the tags in order and that you are taking questions seriously now (saw your first two posts :/).

If you wanted it to be atypical for the genre, make the MC's dick wayyyyy bigger than the other guy and the guy is just a smoother dude than MC. If you want it a little more original, make the girlfriend cheating story involve MC. Maybe MC was the one cheating and the girlfriend getting revenge. Shit like that. If you set it up the same way, there is no way someone can give a different perspective on first look. That's just my advice.

Anyway, I wish you all luck and hope that you gain the success you need

 

[Drexelhand]

This has told me all I need to know. I know there will be people that love your game and from experience, I know the writing process to be a good and telling your story is important and I stand by that. All that said, there isn't a single thing about a cheating girlfriend that I like.

I don't like the thrill of "is it true, is it not true?" nor do I like that you are confirming that the Ex/antagonist already has the upper hand on the MC without any effort (dickwise) nor do I trust that you still want Harem game fans to still try your game instead of letting them leave.

You said this is not a typical En Tee Argh story, but just few points above show that it's pretty typical. MC cock small, not only that, but smaller than the antagonist, the girlfriend is cheating (maybe not, you haven't decided yet) and all this happens no matter the user input. It sounds pretty typical to me.

To be more fair to you, I appreciate that you have all the tags in order and that you are taking questions seriously now (saw your first two posts :/).

If you wanted it to be atypical for the genre, make the MC's dick wayyyyy bigger than the other guy and the guy is just a smoother dude than MC. If you want it a little more original, make the girlfriend cheating story involve MC. Maybe MC was the one cheating and the girlfriend getting revenge. Shit like that. If you set it up the same way, there is no way someone can give a different perspective on first look. That's just my advice.

Anyway, I wish you all luck and hope that you gain the success you need

Hey no worries man, I'm just glad that we get to here and talk about stuff like this. One of the things about Sex/Life that fascinated me was just how much of an advantage the antagonist Brad had over the "cuck" Cooper (I put that in quotes since he never actually got cucked). Brad was handsome, Cooper looks like Ron DeSantis mixed with Chad Gable. Brad had a big dick, Cooper didn't. But at the end of the day, Cooper wasn't a basic cuck in other games who took it laying down. He fought for his wife and for his family rather than watching them fuck and jerk off to it. Similarly, in the Great Gatsby, Gatsby's got everything on his lover's husband but he still loses in the end.

I want everyone to try this game because in spite of those aesthetic points you've brought up, I want to write something that's deeper, more complex, more tragic. I think that somebody who only likes Harem games might like this game simply because it is different and it provides, or at least attempts to provide, something that makes you think.

I have the eventual reasons for possibly cheating in my head and they aren't like you'd find in typical NTR games where it's like:

Antagonist: "Yo bitch, you so fine."

Wife: "No, I'm married!"

Antagonist: "But my cock so big!"

Wife: "You're right"

*Wife blows him*

*Husband jacks off*

I like those games and some games do them very well. But I am aiming to give something deeper than that and while I do appreciate your advice and agree that it would make a hilarious game (to the point where I might do it for a fun little short game), it would betray the principle of this one if I did.

So, you don't have to try it, I'd like it if you did, but maybe in the future, there'll be something you like here.

 

[ImperialD]

why do i get the feeling you forgot a tag for NTR ... it seems this game is headed that way .... started good until that diary ..... i'm out .. not that anyone cares .. just hate NTR games

 

[Drexelhand]

why do i get the feeling you forgot a tag for NTR ... it seems this game is headed that way .... started good until that diary ..... i'm out .. not that anyone cares .. just hate NTR games

Cheating is going to be in it. But it's going to be more complicated than good old fashioned NTR, so I would still say give it a try.

Oh, I'm going to make it very clear for people confused. The entry in the diary that the protagonist reads is not related to cheating. Future entries in the diary might be, but that one is not.

 

[Deviton123]

Lemme guess, this is inspired by that crappy Netflix show: Sex Life.

 

[Zephea]

why do i get the feeling you forgot a tag for NTR ... it seems this game is headed that way .... started good until that diary ..... i'm out .. not that anyone cares .. just hate NTR games

And the NTR tag is listed under the Future Tags. It is what it is I suppose!

 

[Drexelhand]

Lemme guess, this is inspired by that crappy Netflix show: Sex Life.

It is and hey, the show wasn't for you but this game might be.

 

[Drexelhand]

And the NTR tag is listed under the Future Tags. It is what it is I suppose!

No matter where you go, you are what you are player. And you can try to change but that's just the top layer.

I do hope you'll give us a chance, though.

 

[hysepReC]

He was in the pool!

But in all seriousness, he's not that small. He's average, he's just small while flaccid.

It is small by porn game standards lol. I can only assume that you gave him an average sized dick to make him look inferior when compared to the ex.

Netorare is a big no for me no matter how "deep and complex" it is but i do appreciate you answering my somewhat snide post sincerely. There's definitely an audience for this kind of game, it just doesn't include me.